To TX Sen. Bettencourt on SB1567, Occupancy

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Chrundle the Great
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Can you show me where?
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hopeandrealchange said:

Bob Yancy said:

Honorable Governor Abbott,

Please veto SB 1567. This bill, if passed, would:

1. Facilitate Investor Buyout of Texas Homes. SB1567 incentivizes investors and accelerates the shift of homeownership away from families. This is in direct opposition to what you have said you want to promote: Texas residents owning their own homes.

2. Target specific municipalities. Why doesn't this bill apply to all municipalities, today and in the future? The bill's exclusion of most municipalities and its selective focus on a few (i.e. Bryan and College Station) highlights a strategic case of "bracketing" - and is designed to target specific areas and stakeholders. This raises concerns about its intent, fairness and constitutionality.

Thank you for your dedicated and continuous service to Texans and Texas, Governor.

Your attention to this matter and my previous communications to your office, is much appreciated, sir.

Respectfully

Bob Yancy '95
City Council, Place 5
College Station, Texas
Byancy@cstx.gov


Mr.Yancy
I respectfully question your thinking on this matter.

It is my opinion that the state has gotten involved to reel in our out of control City government.
As I understand the current situation the bill has passed and is waiting for our Governors signature.
I hope our Governor has the God given sense to see your letter for what it is. More support for an out of control city council.


I'm sorry to disappoint you on this. I have to stand with my convictions though, and I worry about the impact of this bill.

Respectfully,

Yancy '95
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Chrundle the Great said:

Can you show me where?


Stephenville is the latest to be excluded. I'll get the list and post…

Respectfully

Bob Y
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Chrundle the Great
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I found it, amended to say home-rule with a "university"

I agree that's ridiculous.
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I wouldn't have a problem with the bill if it applied to everyone; but it doesn't. It's wildly discriminatory and really just targeted towards College Station.

I find it humorous that someone from any other part of the state can agree to this. No ****, Sherlock - it doesn't affect you so go for it. Hey, you may even have a beef with A&M so here's a little extra.


"Haha. Screw you, College Station!"

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scd88 said:

I wouldn't have a problem with the bill if it applied to everyone; but it doesn't. It's wildly discriminatory and really just targeted towards College Station.

I find it humorous that someone from any other part of the state can agree to this. No Sherlock - it doesn't affect you so go for it. Hey, you may even have a beef with A&M so here's a little extra.


"Haha. Screw you, College Station!"



I don't see it that way at all. I see it as the state correcting a wrong and trying to get College Station back in line.

Remember cities exist by the power of the state. If they start getting out of line the state can and often does exert a little discipline. If the council had not made this ridiculous rule in the first place, the bill would never have been introduced.
The left cannot kill the Spirit of Charlie Kirk.
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Bob Yancy said:

Chrundle the Great said:

Why do you keep saying it unfairly applies to BCS and not others? I don't see that in the bill. Is it because the bill says it is only applicable to Home-rule municipalities? There's 393 home rule municipalities and I think they represent 95% or higher of all cities with 5,000+ people. I think it makes sense for this not to apply to smaller 2 horse towns, but I'd bet it applies to 90% of Texans.


It applies to six cities, I think is the latest number. They keep amending it to apply to fewer cities.

Respectfully

Yancy '95


Bryan as well or just CS?
dubi
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Bryan and CS.
Chrundle the Great
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Bryan's claim to RELLIS finally did them in
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So now Bryan and college station are going to run down the areas around campus. I imagine in 10 years cheap housing will soon have lower income residents in addition to students. Then crime will increase. Then people will be like why isn't campus safe anymore.

This over reach which is a direct infringement targeted at a small subset will be why.
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Bob, the city of CS has had Lincoln Ave torn up for a Full Year now. Absolutely Ridiculous. Do you have an update on the year long construction, contractor, city manager?
This is just one good example of what needs to be done instead of trying to micromanage housing and students.
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Mas89 said:

Bob, the city of CS has had Lincoln Ave torn up for a Full Year now. Absolutely Ridiculous. Do you have an update on the year long construction, contractor, city manager?
This is just one good example of what needs to be done instead of trying to micromanage housing and students.



It has something to do with the Thomas Park project. I apologize I can't remember exactly how or why, but we tried to rehab Lincoln and Thomas Park reconstruction made it impossible somehow, so staff belayed Lincoln until we reach a certain stage of Thomas Park completion. It's not that exactly, but it's something like that. I'm sorry I should know more.

I'll find out and post it, or to ensure I don't forget with all that's happening, you can always send an email to byancy@cstx.gov and I'll run it down.

Respectfully

Yancy '95
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Mas89
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Yes, please take 10 minutes to go walk down Lincoln and see how awful it is for people living in that area.
I walked it a couple weeks ago considering a nearby rental and was amazed it's not completed yet. Ongoing Water, sewer, and drainage issues for surrounding neighbors continuous for a Year now. The park project should be a separate issue from the completely torn up/ Closed street by now. Complete Incompetence by the city of College Station imo.
Please go walk it Bob. And take the city Manager with you.
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Mas89 said:

Yes, please take 10 minutes to go walk down Lincoln and see how awful it is for people living in that area.
I walked it a couple weeks ago considering a nearby rental and was amazed it's not completed yet. Ongoing Water, sewer, and drainage issues for surrounding neighbors continuous for a Year now. The park project should be a separate issue from the completely torn up/ Closed street by now. Complete Incompetence by the city of College Station imo.
Please go walk it Bob. And take the city Manager with you.


I'll go by today.

Respectfully

Yancy '95
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Bob,

If the governor signs the bill and it is law the ROO will end in the COCS I am not sure how many have been formed but one was in my neighborhood. The amount of work and the fees the city charged was a lot. It is only fair that the city refunds those fees to the respective HOA's

In my neighborhood our covenants and restrictions do not allow more than two unrelated so there will be no change in our situation. The good part about the ROO was it would take the legal steps necessary to take care of a violation now our HOA will have to pay the legal fees to achieve that.

thank you, sir
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happyinBCS said:

Bob,

If the governor signs the bill and it is law the ROO will end in the COCS I am not sure how many have been formed but one was in my neighborhood. The amount of work and the fees the city charged was a lot. It is only fair that the city refunds those fees to the respective HOA's

In my neighborhood our covenants and restrictions do not allow more than two unrelated so there will be no change in our situation. The good part about the ROO was it would take the legal steps necessary to take care of a violation now our HOA will have to pay the legal fees to achieve that.

thank you, sir


As one member of council, I would agree with issuing the "ROO refunds."

Respectfully

Yancy '95
My opinions are mine and should not be construed as those of city council or staff. I welcome robust debate but will cease communication on any thread in which colleagues or staff are personally criticized. I must refrain from comment on posted agenda items until after meetings are concluded. Bob Yancy 95
Mas89
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Any update on Lincoln avenue and Thomas Park construction and possible completion date?
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Do people believe allowing more occupants to use existing housing stock is going to make housing *less affordable*?

I can see why you'd be against the bill if you have a financial interest in keeping housing costs up (e.g. rental investors) or if you want to use occupancy restrictions to keep students away from campus. But if you are interested in seeing housing in the city become more affordable generally, allowing for more utilization would help with that.
Brian Alg

My words are not intended to be disrespectful to any of the staid and venerable members of College Station City Council
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Brian Alg said:

Do people believe allowing more occupants to use existing housing stock is going to make housing *less affordable*?

I can see why you'd be against the bill if you have a financial interest in keeping housing costs up (e.g. rental investors) or if you want to use occupancy restrictions to keep students away from campus. But if you are interested in seeing housing in the city become more affordable generally, allowing for more utilization would help with that.
I think houses close to campus are even more valuable now that we can house up to 12 occupants. So the higher sales price will provide more beds, but rents will sky rocket in proportion to the higher home costs.

IMO this will not provide more affordable beds, but it will provide more beds at the higher price point.
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It might help to exaggerate numbers further to get an idea of where things go directionally. If students or whoever else wanted to sacrifice having a car, privacy, etc. to pack 50 to a house in the 1,000 closest homes to campus, what would happen?

Houses closest to campus would prove to be very valuable. If they were paying $400 each, that'd be $20k per house. Almost nobody could turn away that kind of payday. All those homeowners get rich. But where would they live?

If 50k people pack into those homes closest to campus, that would clear things up not too far from campus. Traffic would be alleviated since those 50k are less likely to drive a couple blocks than the miles they used to live from campus. And there would be 50k fewer people trying to live in the houses outside of the 1,000 closest to campus. The ones who got a mondo payday would be able to afford a mansion. But that would still leave plenty of space for the rest of us willing to live more than a mile or two from Texas A&M. Housing would become much more affordable for people who don't need to be right next to campus.
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My words are not intended to be disrespectful to any of the staid and venerable members of College Station City Council
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Mas89 said:

Any update on Lincoln avenue and Thomas Park construction and possible completion date?
Bump
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Mas89 said:

Mas89 said:

Any update on Lincoln avenue and Thomas Park construction and possible completion date?
Bump


I've been on vacation and didn't get by to see it before I left. I'll be at city hall tonite and will inquire and get you an update. I'll leave for city hall early and go check the road out before the meeting.

Below is some info I found during my research this morning. …

https://www.kbtx.com/2024/12/11/project-manager-gives-update-lincoln-avenue-construction-following-closure/



Respectfully

Yancy '95
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Mas89 said:

Mas89 said:

Any update on Lincoln avenue and Thomas Park construction and possible completion date?
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This is from your capital projects team. I have full faith and confidence in their abilities:

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The Lincoln Ave. Project began construction in July 2024. Most recently, we've completed the roadway section between Texas Ave and Foster, with it currently open to traffic.

Current Construction:
The contractor is presently working on the roadway section from Foster to Nunn. We expect this section to be open at the end of June, with the intersection at Nunn remaining closed.

The water line is currently being installed ahead of the roadwork, most recently working near Ashburn.
Sidewalks are being installed following behind the roadway work.

Future Construction:
Nunn to Ashburn will be closed at end of June until the end of August.

Ashburn to Munson, will be the next segment to be impacted. We are still evaluating traffic control options based on field conditions to determine if this will be able to be completed in halves or continue will a full closure.
Munson to University is the last section to complete and it is planned to be completed in halves.

You may recall when we started the project, we attempted to work in halves in order to maintain one-way traffic. However, due to the condition of the existing road, it became an unsafe condition for both motorists and the construction workers, which is why we are continuing with segmented closures for a portion of the project. We continue to coordinate with and provide updates to all stakeholders including CSISD, TAMU, USPS, Solid Waste, BVR, etc.

We have encountered numerous issues during the project, including unknown utility lines, unforeseen subgrade issues, drainage issues and of course weather impacts to name a few. The entire project is currently expected to be completed February 2026, weather and other factors permitting.

*****

Respectfully,

Yancy '95
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Thank you Governor Abbot for signing SB1567.
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hopeandrealchange said:

Thank you Governor Abbot for signing SB1567.
We'll be sure to revisit this thread in a few years.

You'll probably be fine with most of CS looking like Spring Loop (for those who haven't driven down it lately; it is covered in trash, the grass/weeds are 2-4+ feet high, and all other kinds of debris scattered about in the front yards), but you won't find much support beyond those who are exploiting the situation for their own financial ends.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Bob, will you talk to council about the refunds on the ROO or how will it work to accomplish?

Thank you
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hopeandrealchange said:

Thank you Governor Abbot for signing SB1567.



I have no issue with the market setting the tone. I have a problem with a bill that is now been signed into law that was manipulated to only address College Station. Why is anyone from El Paso, Amarillo, etc in a position to do this?

It's wrong.

Landlords, developers, and real estate agents win; local residents lose. Celebrating this is moronic.

ETA - I grew up in Houston so I'm familiar and comfortable with free markets and real estate. In this case, if some pockets of locals have enough voting power to put a ROO in place, that's playing within the local rules. The state has no business inserting themselves in an issue this small.

The flip side is that I'm against calling the cops when there are too many cars in the driveway. I hate that, too. Most kids are respectful of their neighbors and have no ill intent towards anyone.
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I think we could've kept the status quo for a long time, but when the city escalated to having staff park outside of kids houses taking pictures for a month to "build a case" on the # of unique license plates sleeping there that's when the big wigs decided to flex on us.

I'm not going to cheer the state law targeting us. However, I'll be happy if we'll stop pretending 5 bedroom houses are for 4 people.
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I've seen several examples of students being completely disrespectful of the neighborhood as well.
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happyinBCS said:

Bob, will you talk to council about the refunds on the ROO or how will it work to accomplish?

Thank you



I'll broach the topic, but I'm one vote of 7. Unfortunately those fees covered quite a bit of staff hours to process and those hours can't be reclaimed. But I will raise the issue.

Respectfully

Yancy '95
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Rapier108 said:

hopeandrealchange said:

Thank you Governor Abbot for signing SB1567.
We'll be sure to revisit this thread in a few years.

You'll probably be fine with most of CS looking like Spring Loop (for those who haven't driven down it lately; it is covered in trash, the grass/weeds are 2-4+ feet high, and all other kinds of debris scattered about in the front yards), but you won't find much support beyond those who are exploiting the situation for their own financial ends.

I would encourage you to report all of those issues to code enforcement at once. When I see one of the homes in an area where I own rental homes not playing by the established rules I act to protect the integrity of the area.
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Hornbeck said:

I've seen several examples of students being completely disrespectful of the neighborhood as well.


I've seen the opposite. The AgShacks in my hood are so well behaved you wouldn't know they are there.

I wonder if the issue isn't the number of students living in an individual dwelling, but the number of dwellings where this occurs (density).
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Melissa McIlhaney currently serves as the Chair of the City of College Station's Planning and Zoning Commission.

She initially sought appointment as a mechanism to actively work to protect our neighborhoods.


During Melissa's tenure on the Commission, College Station has made significant strides in modifying its zoning structure to provide protection for not only our older neighborhoods via the Residential Occupancy Overlay (ROO), but by also creating the zoning designation Middle Housing (MH) and the High Occupancy Overlay (HOO) which provide for more densely populated residential housing.


Most recently, the Housing Action Plan was adopted into the City's Comprehensive Plan. This exciting addition lays the groundwork for solutions to our looming housing crisis becoming true focal point for staff and community.

WHOOP!!!!
from those of us that spent decades paying off our property sold as bedroom residential family only to discover later it was not protected from other uses, accelerated taxation due to "new neighbors" and their willfulness or profiteers w/o a soul ... not to mention whoever may be the at all roots of fault

Growing up in a neighborhood zoned so strictly, an empty lot's worth accelerated way past anything sold on the stock market as a direct result ... e.g. no commercial, no liquor delivered, no 2-stories in 1-story sections, etc, & Yes, even with college SMU complications & age-related nuisances Solved.
Certainly NO discussions such as what we now have afoot and trying to undo/mitigate with 20-20 hindsight, Monday morning quarterbacking .... YIKES

TAMU '76 M.Arch
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tgivaughn said:

Melissa McIlhaney currently serves as the Chair of the City of College Station's Planning and Zoning Commission.

She initially sought appointment as a mechanism to actively work to protect our neighborhoods.


During Melissa's tenure on the Commission, College Station has made significant strides in modifying its zoning structure to provide protection for not only our older neighborhoods via the Residential Occupancy Overlay (ROO), but by also creating the zoning designation Middle Housing (MH) and the High Occupancy Overlay (HOO) which provide for more densely populated residential housing.


Most recently, the Housing Action Plan was adopted into the City's Comprehensive Plan. This exciting addition lays the groundwork for solutions to our looming housing crisis becoming true focal point for staff and community.

WHOOP!!!!
from those of us that spent decades paying off our property sold as bedroom residential family only to discover later it was not protected from other uses, accelerated taxation due to "new neighbors" and their willfulness or profiteers w/o a soul ... not to mention whoever may be the at all roots of fault

Growing up in a neighborhood zoned so strictly, an empty lot's worth accelerated way past anything sold on the stock market as a direct result ... e.g. no commercial, no liquor delivered, no 2-stories in 1-story sections, etc, & Yes, even with college SMU complications & age-related nuisances Solved.
Certainly NO discussions such as what we now have afoot and trying to undo/mitigate with 20-20 hindsight, Monday morning quarterbacking .... YIKES

TAMU '76 M.Arch
YIKES to trying to read this. McIlhaney is on city council now, not the P&Z commission. ROOs are dead.
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Referring to the genesis of a process that needs support
Of course
Gotta draw since me got no grammar MasterArch '76
 
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