Anybody recognize this accident?

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TyHolden
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I always get in the other lane to avoid people merging onto 6 here. Just realized this is 6 from Navasota to CS.

Thisguy1
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I have no idea how there isn't more wrecks there. Scares me a little bit every time. There's just not a lot of room to merge into the fast lane. Been the guy trying to merge and the guy in the fast lane having cars that have no idea you're there merge into you.
Psychag
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I travel this everyday home from Katy. I immediately get to the right lane no matter how slow the traffic is moving there.
TyHolden
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Thisguy1 said:

I have no idea how there isn't more wrecks there. Scares me a little bit every time. There's just not a lot of room to merge into the fast lane. Been the guy trying to merge and the guy in the fast lane having cars that have no idea you're there merge into you.
yeah, the first time I went through there I didn't even look at cars merging into 6. I can't see how a semi could slow down. It comes out of no where if you don't know the road.
ukbb2003
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That is the dumbest design. I would be inclined to say that the traffic on the highway has the right of way. As was mentioned above, there is so little space to merge you can't really put a yield sign there.
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TxDOT has eliminated most of the left-hand merges over the years but NB Highway 6 and LaSalle is one of them.

I kind of wish that when they reworked SH 6 South they could've built it in a way to eventually support full frontage roads through Navasota.
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ukbb2003 said:

That is the dumbest design. I would be inclined to say that the traffic on the highway has the right of way. As was mentioned above, there is so little space to merge you can't really put a yield sign there.
Yeah, highway has the right of way. Most don't even see the merge until it happens. That's a 70-90 mph zone. When the students get to Navasota, they hammer it.
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ukbb2003 said:

That is the dumbest design. I would be inclined to say that the traffic on the highway has the right of way. As was mentioned above, there is so little space to merge you can't really put a yield sign there.

You are correct. Vehicle on the highway has the right of way, merging traffic has to yield.
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Every merging vehicle has to yield to those already on the highway. If only folks knew this.
Here is the law if you want to read it..
Texas Transportation Code 545
https://statutes.capitol.texas.gov/docs/tn/htm/tn.545.htm
Jason_Roofer
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It drives me nuts that people can't understand how to match speeds with the highway in order to merge. That accident doesn't happen if the F150 were merging at highway speeds.

Tough lesson.
Smeghead4761
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tu ag said:

Every merging vehicle has to yield to those already on the highway. If only folks knew this.
Here is the law if you want to read it..
Texas Transportation Code 545
https://statutes.capitol.texas.gov/docs/tn/htm/tn.545.htm
You know what...I think the law is a bit poorly written, basically with the assumption that all merge lanes enter the highway from the right.


Quote:

Sec. 545.061. DRIVING ON MULTIPLE-LANE ROADWAY. On a roadway divided into three or more lanes and providing for one-way movement of traffic, an operator entering a lane of traffic from a lane to the right shall yield the right-of-way to a vehicle entering the same lane of traffic from a lane to the left.

This applies if the merge lane is counted as the third lane, otherwise it's not applicable. But by the way the law is written, it's not the main highway traffic that has the right of way necessarily, although that's going to be the case 99.9% of the time.

Which, in the case of entry lanes coming from the left, is really stupid. Traffic in the left lane is going to be moving even faster than in the right lane, and since the left lane is designated as a passing lane, traffic there would be less likely to even be able to move over - if you're passing another vehicle, there is, almost by definition, another vehicle in the lane next to you.

But the dude might have a point, simply because the writers of that section of the Transportation Code made an invalid assumption.

Sec. 545.154 might apply, but that to me is specifically about entering and leaving feeder roads. It doesn't seem to address vehicles entering a highway from a feeder.


Quote:

Sec. 545.154. VEHICLE ENTERING OR LEAVING LIMITED-ACCESS OR CONTROLLED-ACCESS HIGHWAY. An operator on an access or feeder road of a limited-access or controlled-access highway shall yield the right-of-way to a vehicle entering or about to enter the access or feeder road from the highway or leaving or about to leave the access or feeder road to enter the highway.


Is there another applicable section that I maybe missed? Reading the official state gov page for statutes is always such a PITA.
CS78
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Terribly dangerous design. Any accident is TXDOTs fault.

Dude is lucky to be alive. Sounds like an idiot worried about his truck.
oklaunion
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I commuted to Navasota for almost 30 years and am pretty sure there used to be a yield sign for the merging traffic. Going northbound, the place that was the most hairy was the at grade left turn from 6 onto FM2154 with NO turn lane.
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ukbb2003 said:

That is the dumbest design. I would be inclined to say that the traffic on the highway has the right of way. As was mentioned above, there is so little space to merge you can't really put a yield sign there.


I travel from Brenham - 105 - Navasota - 6 - College Station on a weekly basis. The above is the route I take to enter Highway 6. Lasalle to Blackshear, curve to Piedmont (3090) cross 6 and left on the feeder, finally merge RIGHT on to 6. Takes a minute or two extra, but is much safer!
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That dude is wrong. Terrible merge but the 18 wheeler has the right of way. I always move over from that lane to the right one if I'm not already there.
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there is no way the dude that posted that and narrated it was the person driving that truck that got hit.
posting for internet points


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91_Aggie said:

there is no way the dude that posted that and narrated it was the person driving that truck that got hit.
posting for internet points





You mean he didn't have access to the dashcam video from the big rig that hit him?
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It shocks me when someone actually does it.
Far more often, it's the other way around.
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The person in the black truck is totally in the wrong! The big truck has the right of way and the black truck must blend into traffic.
GasAg90
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Well, the black truck temporarily blended into the semi.
Buford T. Justice
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That guy is lucky to be alive. Very lucky.
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02skiag
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Black trucks fault but the semi driver also needs to learn to drive defensively. He showed no awareness.
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02skiag said:

Black trucks fault but the semi driver also needs to learn to drive defensively. He showed no awareness.


There is a good discussion on Reddit (r/MildlyBadDrivers) about this incident and what the semi driver should or should not have done.


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This is about as much as you're going to get without diving deep into case law. Based on what you've referenced and what I've looked into, it's pretty clear that vehicles already on the highway or those exiting it have the right of way over vehicles entering from an on-ramp, regardless of which side they're coming from. The responsibility to yield falls on the driver entering the highway.
AG1996
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Drive through that weekly. It can be nuts.

Rexter
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There is no yield sign for the merging lane, but there is a merge right sign. The merging lane has a broken line, so technically they are changing lanes. The through lane has right of way.
That said, the big truck should have seen it coming and backed off to allow the idiot in the f150 to merge. It isn't worth the hassle and hit on the CDL for the wreck.
I drive for 25 years, and would have let the guy in while cussing him at the same time for being stupid.
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Rexter said:

There is no yield sign for the merging lane, but there is a merge right sign. The merging lane has a broken line, so technically they are changing lanes. The through lane has right of way.
That said, the big truck should have seen it coming and backed off to allow the idiot in the f150 to merge. It isn't worth the hassle and hit on the CDL for the wreck.
I drive for 25 years, and would have let the guy in while cussing him at the same time for being stupid.
Safe driving tip. Always assume the other drivers are idiots.
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Psychag said:

I travel this everyday home from Katy. I immediately get to the right lane no matter how slow the traffic is moving there.
this.... if you know its there, just get over. it might save a life
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The dude in the black truck is a Ph.D, but he knows squat about merging into a freeway.

I love when folks that can't see over the steering wheel due to their advanced age merge onto 6 doing 40.
91_Aggie
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maroon barchetta said:

91_Aggie said:

there is no way the dude that posted that and narrated it was the person driving that truck that got hit.
posting for internet points





You mean he didn't have access to the dashcam video from the big rig that hit him?
Yeah, and he posted just get everyone to respond with stuff like "That guy in the black truck is only totally wrong!" "What an idiot!" etc.

and people take the bait every time. OP did a good job of this by reposting this from twitter
Bunk Moreland
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As mentioned it's the F150's fault, but that particular merge is so bad. The highway is bending towards the right at the same time the merge lane is bending toward the left, which compounds the difficulty in gauging the right speed to get ahead or behind when merging even during normal conditions. I've seen so many close calls there.
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I went through that interchange about 10:00 Saturday night coming from Brenham. Scared the hell out of me. There are several issues with the area. You enter the merge lane from a sweeping left turn that's sharp enough to not really allow you to achieve merging speed. Secondly, you are slightly elevated in that sweeping curve, so there's no way in hell to see oncoming traffic in the left lane of Highway 6. Thirdly, the lane from which to merge is much too short, so again it's hard to achieve merging speed with traffic going 75+ mph. And finally, as previously mentioned, the whole situation is exacerbated by the fact that that is the fast lane of traffic on Highway 6 and vehicles are in fact driving at maximum speed there. It's a disaster that has to be addressed. Lives have been and will continue to be lost there until it is.

There is a similar interchange coming from Franklin into Hearne, westbound Highway 79 merging with southbound Highway 6. Fortunately, the traffic on Highway 6 is generally moving much slower in that area and the merging lane is much longer. But it's still a challenge to see oncoming traffic from Highway 6.

Lesson learned for me is that from now on I will always proceed through Navasota all the way to Highway 6 and use the northbound service road and merge lane there.
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Bunk Moreland
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If y'all really want a wild ride, get on the 30 west feeder from fm1791 in Huntsville headed back to CS and yield/merge onto 30 west where they built up the highway so much that you can barely see behind you to check for traffic on 30...and oh yeah, there's a fairly large neighborhood entrance just to the right almost at the exact merge point where people on 30 often are trying to move over in time to turn in to.
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Tyrannosaurus Ross said:

I went through that interchange about 10:00 Saturday night coming from Brenham. Scared the hell out of me. There are several issues with the area. You enter the merge lane from a sweeping left turn that's sharp enough to not really allow you to achieve merging speed. Secondly, you are slightly elevated in that sweeping curve, so there's no way in hell to see oncoming traffic in the left lane of Highway 6. Thirdly, the lane from which to merge is much too short, so again it's hard to achieve merging speed with traffic going 75+ mph. And finally, as previously mentioned, the whole situation is exacerbated by the fact that that is the fast lane of traffic on Highway 6 and vehicles are in fact driving at maximum speed there. It's a disaster that has to be addressed. Lives have been and will continue to be lost there until it is.

There is a similar interchange coming from Franklin into Hearne, westbound Highway 79 merging with southbound Highway 6. Fortunately, the traffic on Highway 6 is generally moving much slower in that area and the merging lane is much longer. But it's still a challenge to see oncoming traffic from Highway 6.

Lesson learned for me is that from now on I will always proceed through Navasota all the way to Highway 6 and use the northbound service road and merge lane there.
i drive this multiple times a week

- getting up to speed is only an issue if someone in front of you refuses to speed up, there is plenty of running room.

- you should begin looking at the HWY 6 traffic as soon as you enter the overpass. it is easy to gauge density and speed and adjust your merging speed to fit in a gap. It's also helpful if your passengers continue to track and update.

- the actual merge IS very short. If you screw it up, your either under a semi or in the Navasota river
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