If they did a better job at actually educating children rather than being a haven for social engineering, they wouldn't be under such scrutiny.gibby03 said:
Ah, the simple "letter grade" that somehow determines the effectiveness of a school and not taking into consideration anything a school district deals with on a day to day basis is mind boggling.
I'm a staunch Republican and have been my whole voting life, and I can wholeheartedly say the full on attack of Public Education in this State is sickening.
When anyone on this board can explain to me HOW TEA determines these "grades" with specific detail then I can begin to have a discussion. Most people can't, because they see the letter grade and drink it up but the reality is, there is so much nuance to these things that rating a school system with a simple letter is tragically impossible.
TEA tells you how it works on the website. What baffles you?gibby03 said:
Ah, the simple "letter grade" that somehow determines the effectiveness of a school and not taking into consideration anything a school district deals with on a day to day basis is mind boggling.
I'm a staunch Republican and have been my whole voting life, and I can wholeheartedly say the full on attack of Public Education in this State is sickening.
When anyone on this board can explain to me HOW TEA determines these "grades" with specific detail then I can begin to have a discussion. Most people can't, because they see the letter grade and drink it up but the reality is, there is so much nuance to these things that rating a school system with a simple letter is tragically impossible.
100%cavscout96 said:
If they did a better job at actually educating children rather than being a haven for social engineering, they wouldn't be under such scrutiny.
cavscout96 said:If they did a better job at actually educating children rather than being a haven for social engineering, they wouldn't be under such scrutiny.gibby03 said:
Ah, the simple "letter grade" that somehow determines the effectiveness of a school and not taking into consideration anything a school district deals with on a day to day basis is mind boggling.
I'm a staunch Republican and have been my whole voting life, and I can wholeheartedly say the full on attack of Public Education in this State is sickening.
When anyone on this board can explain to me HOW TEA determines these "grades" with specific detail then I can begin to have a discussion. Most people can't, because they see the letter grade and drink it up but the reality is, there is so much nuance to these things that rating a school system with a simple letter is tragically impossible.
gibby03 said:cavscout96 said:If they did a better job at actually educating children rather than being a haven for social engineering, they wouldn't be under such scrutiny.gibby03 said:
Ah, the simple "letter grade" that somehow determines the effectiveness of a school and not taking into consideration anything a school district deals with on a day to day basis is mind boggling.
I'm a staunch Republican and have been my whole voting life, and I can wholeheartedly say the full on attack of Public Education in this State is sickening.
When anyone on this board can explain to me HOW TEA determines these "grades" with specific detail then I can begin to have a discussion. Most people can't, because they see the letter grade and drink it up but the reality is, there is so much nuance to these things that rating a school system with a simple letter is tragically impossible.
Please provide me with specific temples of this in Texas and where.
CT'97 said:
While I generally agree with you on the topic of TEA and public schools your argument is lazy at best. A little bit of following links on the original post lead me to all the information you are talking about in intricate detail for every district and campus.
2023 Accountability Reports
2023 Accountability Rating Overall Summary COLLEGE STATION ISD
2023 Accountability Rating Overall Summary BRYAN ISD
2023 Accountability Rating Overall Summary A&M CONS H S
2023 College, Career, and Military Readiness A AND M CONS H S
here's an easy one:gibby03 said:cavscout96 said:If they did a better job at actually educating children rather than being a haven for social engineering, they wouldn't be under such scrutiny.gibby03 said:
Ah, the simple "letter grade" that somehow determines the effectiveness of a school and not taking into consideration anything a school district deals with on a day to day basis is mind boggling.
I'm a staunch Republican and have been my whole voting life, and I can wholeheartedly say the full on attack of Public Education in this State is sickening.
When anyone on this board can explain to me HOW TEA determines these "grades" with specific detail then I can begin to have a discussion. Most people can't, because they see the letter grade and drink it up but the reality is, there is so much nuance to these things that rating a school system with a simple letter is tragically impossible.
Please provide me with specific examples of this in Texas and where. My belief is that most things you provide will be from other states or large cities. This isn't happening as much as the media is saying it is in most places, in Texas and especially in small town Texas.
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from 2018:
The Texas Education Agency (TEA) faced a controversy in 2018 regarding changes to the seventh-grade history curriculum, specifically concerning the description of the Alamo defenders as "heroic". A recommendation to remove that term was proposed, sparking public backlash and strong opposition from Governor Greg Abbott, who urged Texans to contact the State Board of Education (SBOE) to stop "political correctness" from affecting the curriculum. Ultimately, the SBOE voted to keep the language intact, requiring teachers to describe Alamo defenders as "heroic".
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In God We Trust' on Chopping Block for TX Schools in "Woke" Takeover of Education Standards
AUSTIN, TX The Texas State Board of Education (SBOE) will discuss the current state of the review and revision of the Social Studies teaching standards for public schools on Tuesday, August 30. The unelected workgroups who are reviewing content and making suggestions to the elected SBOE members have recently come under fire for deleting the national motto "In God We Trust" from the U.S. History standards in high school and adding other "woke" political concepts to the Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills (TEKS) standards.
Mary Elizabeth Castle, Senior Policy Advisor for Texas Values said the following:
"Attacking our national motto "In God We Trust" and other patriotic historical references is a bad idea in Texas. There's still time for the State Board of Education to reject the liberal "woke" takeover of our schools and get it right by teaching the real truth. We will not rest until all teaching about patriotic historical values and Judeo-Christian heritage is restored to American and Texas History teaching."
Texas Values spoke out at the last meeting against the removal of religious references, the addition of Critical Race Theory ethnic courses, and sexualized content including studying Pride week and GLAAD.
The workgroups have recently published a new document for K-8 students. This new document contains a focus on world religions and forces students to study the LGBT Pride movement in 8th grade. Additionally, high school Sociology consists of many sexualized, pro-LGBT and anti-family standards, forcing students to define controversial terms "gender" and "sexual orientation" and deleting the entire section related to the institution of the family. The sociology course also deletes a standard that compares the stages of development between a male and female.
Topics that have been long taught in public schools like Moses as a historic lawgiver and our First Amendment religious freedom clauses still have not been restored to the high school standards after work groups removed them.
Take a survey of 50 grade 7-12 folks in your life and ask them what they think about:George Costanza said:
"If they did a better job at actually educating children rather than being a haven for social engineering, they wouldn't be under such scrutiny."
What social engineering is happening in our local schools?
cavscout96 said:Take a survey of 50 grade 7-12 folks in your life and ask them what they think about:George Costanza said:
"If they did a better job at actually educating children rather than being a haven for social engineering, they wouldn't be under such scrutiny."
What social engineering is happening in our local schools?
- the colonization of North and South America
- the reasons for the American war for independence
- anything about the Constitution
- the development of the slave trade in North America
- The abolitionist movement and who started it
- immigration
- civics
- who should have the right to vote
- economics
- basic geometry
- pre-marital sex
- homosexual behavior
- gender dysphoria
- weed
Report back with what you learn.
How do the ratings show that? Would honestly like to know how you are correlating the ratings to asking for more money.BCSWguru said:
These "grades" just put into data points what we already knew. If the supers and admin spent their time bettering their students instead of trying to get more money, you might have an argument. They literally tell us they just want to increase the coffers and the TEA ratings show that.
"Take a survey of 50 grade 7-12 folks in your life and ask them what they think about:Quote:
"What social engineering is happening in our local schools?"
There about 1,000 new homes being built with many already built across the street north a little from the school.CS78 said:
Good for Snook! Didn't realize they were doing that well. Maybe we will see some of our development trend that direction.
Well, they want money instead of great students. The TEA ratings show the schools are graded low. Its not confusing, i swear.gibby03 said:How do the ratings show that? Would honestly like to know how you are correlating the ratings to asking for more money.BCSWguru said:
These "grades" just put into data points what we already knew. If the supers and admin spent their time bettering their students instead of trying to get more money, you might have an argument. They literally tell us they just want to increase the coffers and the TEA ratings show that.
ElephantRider said:
Texas teachers are incredibly overworked and underpaid.
Attorney General Ken Paxton has filed a lawsuit against Coppell Independent School District ("ISD") officials for illegally teaching critical race theory ("CRT").George Costanza said:
"https://txvalues.org/in-god-we-trust-on-chopping-block-for-tx-schools-in-woke-takeover-of-education-standards/"
So another possible change 5 years that never became law or practice? Got it.
1. There are no Unions.PS3D said:ElephantRider said:
Texas teachers are incredibly overworked and underpaid.
Three months of vacation every year, a union that actually protects them, and poor performance can be blamed on budget issues? Some folks would kill for a job like that.
(Note: I am not saying there aren't teachers who deserve pay raises or issues that complicate performance, I'm just disagreeing with the "overworked/underpaid" angle).
I made the claim and gave you the best way to test it. I also provided examples that were stopped before implementation which you dismissed. Your dismissal does not invalidate the fact that organizations connected to curriculum and standards development are not actively attempting to shape the consciousness of our children in ways that many parents do not support. Educators who fail to stand up for our children against such attempts deserve to be taken to task. The people will vote with their feet.George Costanza said:"Take a survey of 50 grade 7-12 folks in your life and ask them what they think about:Quote:
"What social engineering is happening in our local schools?"
- the colonization of North and South America
- the reasons for the American war for independence
- anything about the Constitution
- the development of the slave trade in North America
- The abolitionist movement and who started it
- immigration
- civics
- who should have the right to vote
- economics
- basic geometry
- pre-marital sex
- homosexual behavior
- gender dysphoria
- weed
Report back with what you learn."
You make a claim that "social engineering" is happening in our local schools and when asked for examples you provide none. What are our kids being taught in our local schools that would cause them to answer your survey the way you assume it would be answered?
that's the great thing about market forces. Competition will improve the outcomes for the student and the best teachers will be rewarded for their efforts instead of being stuck on a pay scale that rewards seniority over competence.gibby03 said:1. There are no Unions.PS3D said:ElephantRider said:
Texas teachers are incredibly overworked and underpaid.
Three months of vacation every year, a union that actually protects them, and poor performance can be blamed on budget issues? Some folks would kill for a job like that.
(Note: I am not saying there aren't teachers who deserve pay raises or issues that complicate performance, I'm just disagreeing with the "overworked/underpaid" angle).
2. There aren't people "killing" for those jobs because if they were then you wouldn't see articles like this Teacher Shortage
3. I wonder why people aren't "killing" to take these jobs, probably because they aren't paid enough.
cavscout96 said:that's the great thing about market forces. Competition will improve the outcomes for the student and the best teachers will be rewarded for their efforts instead of being stuck on a pay scale that rewards seniority over competence.gibby03 said:1. There are no Unions.PS3D said:ElephantRider said:
Texas teachers are incredibly overworked and underpaid.
Three months of vacation every year, a union that actually protects them, and poor performance can be blamed on budget issues? Some folks would kill for a job like that.
(Note: I am not saying there aren't teachers who deserve pay raises or issues that complicate performance, I'm just disagreeing with the "overworked/underpaid" angle).
2. There aren't people "killing" for those jobs because if they were then you wouldn't see articles like this Teacher Shortage
3. I wonder why people aren't "killing" to take these jobs, probably because they aren't paid enough.
