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kyle field 94
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Has this rule been changed and gotten rid of for all locations in college station?
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Not yet.
Waiting on the Governor to sigh it.
Once he does it still does no go into effect until September 1.
Makes it hard to be leasing property here in Aggieland.
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Do you think he will sign it ?
why the delay?
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If he does sign I suspect we'll see a flurry of court challenges.
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https://www.kxxv.com/news/local-news/in-your-neighborhood/brazos-county/texas-a-m-university/texas-sb-1567-set-to-end-4-person-housing-limit-for-texas-a-m-students

Abbott just has to NOT veto it by June 22 and it will be official. My persona and informed decision tells me it will be passed. There are a lot of people at high up levels that do not like the rule. A lot of pressure has been applied by realtors and developers to over turn this antiquated rule.

SIDE NOT: This rule has been in place since 1939. I am convinced this has been the reason we have not won another national championship in Football. Not sure why it cursed us, but it has!
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I learned along time ago not to try and reason what anyone in politics at any level will do.
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You may not like the rule but the bill was a targeted hit on College Station. Why the hell is a bill aimed at one location the states responsibility? All our politicians suck ass.
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scd88 said:

You may not like the rule but the bill was a targeted hit on College Station. Why the hell is a bill aimed at one location the states responsibility? All our politicians suck ass.
Cities exist by the will of the state. When one of them gets out of line, the state has an obligation to take corrective action. This is your state constitution at work.
The left cannot kill the Spirit of Charlie Kirk.
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techno-ag said:

scd88 said:

You may not like the rule but the bill was a targeted hit on College Station. Why the hell is a bill aimed at one location the states responsibility? All our politicians suck ass.
Cities exist by the will of the state. When one of them gets out of line, the state has an obligation to take corrective action. This is your state constitution at work.


What a load of bull*****

How were we out of line when Lubbock has a more restrictive policy than us (if I understand it correctly)?

The only people in favor of this bill here locally are the landlords. Most of you don't live here so piss off. You don't give two ****s about CS.
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And have you any of you landlords been to central Austin and dealt with that **** show? The ADU's clog of streets and crapify neighborhoods. There's nowhere to park or walk.

Southgate will turn into a rash of section 8 looking streets. This will be fun. Then all the "adults" will be forced to move out further but hey let's make sure the developers and realtors keep making money off us dumb residents. **** all of them.

This bill is garbage and only brought on by a pissed off A&M student.
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scd88 said:

And have you any of you landlords been to central Austin and dealt with that **** show? The ADU's clog of streets and crapify neighborhoods. There's nowhere to park or walk.

Southgate will turn into a rash of section 8 looking streets. This will be fun. Then all the "adults" will be forced to move out further but hey let's make sure the developers and realtors keep making money off us dumb residents. **** all of them.

This bill is garbage and only brought on by a pissed off A&M student.


I disagree with your opinion of what will happen to the Southside.
I own several homes in the southside historic area.
My rental homes outshine many of the owner occupied homes. Let the free market work its magic.
If my homes don't have adequate parking or if they are not maintained in any way they will not rent.
If they don't rent I can't afford the taxes unlike my elderly neighbors whose taxes are a small percentage of mine.
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If you don't mind me asking, do you also live here?
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scd88 said:

If you don't mind me asking, do you also live here?


Yes. I have lived in Aggieland since 1981.
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hopeandrealchange said:

scd88 said:

If you don't mind me asking, do you also live here?


Yes. I have lived in Aggieland since 1981.


Nice.

I moved from S CS up into town to invest in my community. I actually enjoy the students; this isn't on them. I do not have a problem with free markets; I have a problem with the State of Texas and legislatures from other parts of the state telling us what to do.

Having realtors, developers, and landlords greasing the political wheels isn't "free market;" it's mafia like.

Let's go do some more kick ass looking Ag Shacks. So much character...
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scd88 said:

You may not like the rule but the bill was a targeted hit on College Station. Why the hell is a bill aimed at one location the states responsibility? All our politicians suck ass.


I think it was targeted at College Station because our city council in the past has been out of control.
Property rights are very precious. I encourage everyone before buying property of any kind to educate themselves on the deed restrictions or the lack of. The HOA regulations and rules. I am just amazed at the fussing that goes on both directions when folks don't know what they are getting themselves into.
And for the City to change the rules in mid stream is not right in my opinion.
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What rules were changed?
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Let's think about this from a historical point of view. This rule was put in place in 1939. Right when WW2 was kicking off. This rule was not aimed at students, all students were living on campus and shipping off to war. This rule was geared towards getting CS to develop and grow. They wanted families to live in separate houses, and establish single family residences.

It was only recently that the city decided to enforce it and it has been aimed directly at college students. And if you look closely, it only is enforced in Affluent neighborhoods. AKA neighborhoods that are just too good to have college students living next door.

This rule was not intended to be used the way it is today against students.

Next! They're coming for your on-street parking to keep those "pesky college students out of my neighborhood"
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scd88 said:

And have you any of you landlords been to central Austin and dealt with that **** show? The ADU's clog of streets and crapify neighborhoods. There's nowhere to park or walk.

Southgate will turn into a rash of section 8 looking streets. This will be fun. Then all the "adults" will be forced to move out further but hey let's make sure the developers and realtors keep making money off us dumb residents. **** all of them.

This bill is garbage and only brought on by a pissed off A&M student.
Fear-mongering at its finest. The rentals are not going to ruin southside.

If you're the ONLY city in the ENTIRE state of TX enforcing this rule....don't you think it might be out of line??
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Aggie_Fire said:


If you're the ONLY city in the ENTIRE state of TX enforcing this rule....don't you think it might be out of line??
College Station isn't. For example, Lubbock has a no-more-than-2 rule. The bill was originally supposed to apply to the whole state, but it was whittled down to applying to just a handful of cities. Apparently all the representatives who voted for it thought it was a good idea... just not in their jurisdiction.
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Aggie_Fire said:

Let's think about this from a historical point of view. This rule was put in place in 1939. Right when WW2 was kicking off. This rule was not aimed at students, all students were living on campus and shipping off to war. This rule was geared towards getting CS to develop and grow. They wanted families to live in separate houses, and establish single family residences.

It was only recently that the city decided to enforce it and it has been aimed directly at college students. And if you look closely, it only is enforced in effluent neighborhoods. AKA neighborhoods that are just too good to have college students living next door.

This rule was not intended to be used the way it is today against students.

Next! They're coming for your on-street parking to keep those "pesky college students out of my neighborhood"


I don't think anyone at A&M was "shipping off to war" in 1939. We didn't get involved until after Pearl Harbor in 1941.
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Aggie_Fire said:

Let's think about this from a historical point of view. This rule was put in place in 1939. Right when WW2 was kicking off. This rule was not aimed at students, all students were living on campus and shipping off to war. This rule was geared towards getting CS to develop and grow. They wanted families to live in separate houses, and establish single family residences.

It was only recently that the city decided to enforce it and it has been aimed directly at college students. And if you look closely, it only is enforced in effluent neighborhoods. AKA neighborhoods that are just too good to have college students living next door.

This rule was not intended to be used the way it is today against students.

Next! They're coming for your on-street parking to keep those "pesky college students out of my neighborhood"



They enforce it in these neighborhoods cause they're crappy...
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This post did not go unnoticed or appreciated
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scd88 said:

What rules were changed?


Has anyone answered this? If it's hidden in some other replies, I apologize.
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hopeandrealchange said:

scd88 said:

And have you any of you landlords been to central Austin and dealt with that **** show? The ADU's clog of streets and crapify neighborhoods. There's nowhere to park or walk.

Southgate will turn into a rash of section 8 looking streets. This will be fun. Then all the "adults" will be forced to move out further but hey let's make sure the developers and realtors keep making money off us dumb residents. **** all of them.

This bill is garbage and only brought on by a pissed off A&M student.


I disagree with your opinion of what will happen to the Southside.
I own several homes in the southside historic area.
My rental homes outshine many of the owner occupied homes. Let the free market work its magic.
If my homes don't have adequate parking or if they are not maintained in any way they will not rent.
If they don't rent I can't afford the taxes unlike my elderly neighbors whose taxes are a small percentage of mine.
And for every good landlord, there are as many if not more bad ones who will happily rent a house to 6, 8, 10+ students just to make a buck.

And it won't just be Southgate. It will quickly spread throughout much B/CS.

Students move in and trash a neighborhood, or drive out residents with incessant noise.

Eventually they destroy the neighborhood and it gets torn down and turned into more Ags Shacks, or become low income/section 8 type housing.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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If he meant that, he would have said influent!
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Restrict street parking to only one side of the street and within 20 feet of any mail box or drive way. No parking on lawns. Problem solved.
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b0ridi said:

Aggie_Fire said:


If you're the ONLY city in the ENTIRE state of TX enforcing this rule....don't you think it might be out of line??
College Station isn't. For example, Lubbock has a no-more-than-2 rule. The bill was originally supposed to apply to the whole state, but it was whittled down to applying to just a handful of cities. Apparently all the representatives who voted for it thought it was a good idea... just not in their jurisdiction.
I believe there are close to 7 cities that have it on the books as a rule/law. CS is the ONLY one ENFORCING it. That's why its called the CS Bill. It was aimed at the City of CS because they were the only ones enforcing it.
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Does this rule have any impact on HOAs that may have similar rules in place? I would think not.
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TXAG 05 said:

Aggie_Fire said:

Let's think about this from a historical point of view. This rule was put in place in 1939. Right when WW2 was kicking off. This rule was not aimed at students, all students were living on campus and shipping off to war. This rule was geared towards getting CS to develop and grow. They wanted families to live in separate houses, and establish single family residences.

It was only recently that the city decided to enforce it and it has been aimed directly at college students. And if you look closely, it only is enforced in effluent neighborhoods. AKA neighborhoods that are just too good to have college students living next door.

This rule was not intended to be used the way it is today against students.

Next! They're coming for your on-street parking to keep those "pesky college students out of my neighborhood"


I don't think anyone at A&M was "shipping off to war" in 1939. We didn't get involved until after Pearl Harbor in 1941.
VALID POINT! But I think you know what I mean. The more than 4 rule wasn't aimed at college students, it was aimed at the families that were living here in a brand new city. College Station was founded in 1938, this was practically one of the first rules they ever put in place.

So, when it was handy, CS went back to a rule that was almost a 100 years old to use it to their advantage. This is an example of having a concern, finding a rule that fits your prerogative, and exploiting it.
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Rexter said:

Aggie_Fire said:

Let's think about this from a historical point of view. This rule was put in place in 1939. Right when WW2 was kicking off. This rule was not aimed at students, all students were living on campus and shipping off to war. This rule was geared towards getting CS to develop and grow. They wanted families to live in separate houses, and establish single family residences.

It was only recently that the city decided to enforce it and it has been aimed directly at college students. And if you look closely, it only is enforced in effluent neighborhoods. AKA neighborhoods that are just too good to have college students living next door.

This rule was not intended to be used the way it is today against students.

Next! They're coming for your on-street parking to keep those "pesky college students out of my neighborhood"



They enforce it in these neighborhoods cause they're crappy...
That's pretty funny! Thanks for catching that LOL
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Aggie_Fire said:

b0ridi said:

Aggie_Fire said:


If you're the ONLY city in the ENTIRE state of TX enforcing this rule....don't you think it might be out of line??
College Station isn't. For example, Lubbock has a no-more-than-2 rule. The bill was originally supposed to apply to the whole state, but it was whittled down to applying to just a handful of cities. Apparently all the representatives who voted for it thought it was a good idea... just not in their jurisdiction.
I believe there are close to 7 cities that have it on the books as a rule/law. CS is the ONLY one ENFORCING it. That's why its called the CS Bill. It was aimed at the City of CS because they were the only ones enforcing it.


What are the examples of this being enforced? Based upon the ROO meetings in my neighborhood and the city council's temperature for enforcing the rules, enforcement was something the city did NOT want to do.

Homeowners would be forced, and still are if I understand this correctly, to foot the bill themselves on a battle with the city to get them to enforce the existing rules. I believe that is true in non-ROO neighborhoods.

Even in the ROO neighborhoods, enforcement is not expected.
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Rapier108 said:

hopeandrealchange said:

scd88 said:

And have you any of you landlords been to central Austin and dealt with that **** show? The ADU's clog of streets and crapify neighborhoods. There's nowhere to park or walk.

Southgate will turn into a rash of section 8 looking streets. This will be fun. Then all the "adults" will be forced to move out further but hey let's make sure the developers and realtors keep making money off us dumb residents. **** all of them.

This bill is garbage and only brought on by a pissed off A&M student.


I disagree with your opinion of what will happen to the Southside.
I own several homes in the southside historic area.
My rental homes outshine many of the owner occupied homes. Let the free market work its magic.
If my homes don't have adequate parking or if they are not maintained in any way they will not rent.
If they don't rent I can't afford the taxes unlike my elderly neighbors whose taxes are a small percentage of mine.
And for every good landlord, there are as many if not more bad ones who will happily rent a house to 6, 8, 10+ students just to make a buck.

And it won't just be Southgate. It will quickly spread throughout much B/CS.

Students move in and trash a neighborhood, or drive out residents with incessant noise.

Eventually they destroy the neighborhood and it gets torn down and turned into more Ags Shacks, or become low income/section 8 type housing.
Hyperbole much?

Students have been here for over 100 years, the NMT4 rule has only recently (loosely I might add) been enforced. Where are these neighborhoods that these locust-like students have destroyed?

Look, we all choose to live in a college community, in the relative peace and financial stability that that institution provides us. We are insulated from most economic calamities, largely due to the big school. Most of us love it here, because of the big school and it's insularly effects. Let's not forget that when trying to torch and pitchfork college kids doing what college kids do, pile up in one house and have a good time.
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Rexter said:

Aggie_Fire said:

Let's think about this from a historical point of view. This rule was put in place in 1939. Right when WW2 was kicking off. This rule was not aimed at students, all students were living on campus and shipping off to war. This rule was geared towards getting CS to develop and grow. They wanted families to live in separate houses, and establish single family residences.

It was only recently that the city decided to enforce it and it has been aimed directly at college students. And if you look closely, it only is enforced in effluent neighborhoods. AKA neighborhoods that are just too good to have college students living next door.

This rule was not intended to be used the way it is today against students.

Next! They're coming for your on-street parking to keep those "pesky college students out of my neighborhood"



They enforce it in these neighborhoods cause they're crappy...


These are the neighborhoods in Bryan into which COCS pumps their sewage.
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The idea that it is okay to use taxpayer resources to attack someone's neighbors for having the wrong family structure is so foreign to me
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My words are not intended to be disrespectful to any of the staid and venerable members of College Station City Council
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Brian Alg said:

The idea that it is okay to use taxpayer resources to attack someone's neighbors for having the wrong family structure is so foreign to me


Great. Nobody has answered my questions and therefore pointed out where taxpayer money is being used to "enforce" the rules that are in place.

People talk about free market and such, but nobody has addressed the details. Oh, and when will Pebble Creek have its first Ag Shack? Damn those deed restrictions and HOA's (which are another issue, but still a "rule") there. I'm sure they are screwed, too.
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