Yall have made good arguments, and the community has spoken very clearly. But you are naive.

The majority of city council and all of the city staff don't care what you think. Literally, do not care. You are irrelevant NPCs. It's all about their power and lining their pockets. That's it.

Nothing you say will ever change their mind. Only when they feel their power or personal finances threatened, they'll straighten up. That's what happened on data center.

Bob Yancey is a good guy looking out for the citizens. He is alone.

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Yall have made good arguments, and the community has spoken very clearly. But you are naive.


The majority of city council and all of the city staff don't care what you think. Literally, do not care. You are irrelevant NPCs. It's all about their power and lining their pockets. That's it.


Nothing you say will ever change their mind. Only when they feel their power or personal finances threatened, they'll straighten up. That's what happened on data center.


Bob Yancey is a good guy looking out for the citizens. He is alone.

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I have to laugh at this, you're taking the side of a small, wealthy subdivision and painting it like the underdog heroic citizens who fight back against the corrupt government when it can arguably be flipped the other way around, a group of well-connected citizens with a councilman in their pockets trying to throw a wrench into the city's thoroughfare plan.


I'm oversimplifying things for dramatic effect and I'm not saying that the Pebble Creek plan as it stands doesn't have serious issues, but this is either complete nonsense or brilliant propaganda.

At the CS council meeting. It's time to vote Yancy as mayor and clean house of the current mayor, city staff to include the city manager, the department heads and the fire chief. Yancy is making them look foolish.

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At the CS council meeting. It's time to vote Yancy as mayor and clean house of the current mayor, city staff to include the city manager, the department heads and the fire chief. Yancy is making them look foolish.

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I cannot echo this enough. The way CM Woods, p&z's Armstrong, and even the fire chief got belligerent when asked yes/no questions by Yancy was embarrassing for city leaders.

Aggieland Proud said:

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At the CS council meeting. It's time to vote Yancy as mayor and clean house of the current mayor, city staff to include the city manager, the department heads and the fire chief. Yancy is making them look foolish.

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Where have you been? Been saying this the last couple years.

Passed 4-3
Adios pebble creek parkway extension

For those that are not familiar, go look at the cost to build that road/bridge extension versus an eighth fire station to serve the future Savanna Oaks area, look at the consultants traffic study that the city paid for, look at the city's own plan about neighborhood integrity, and then tell me how the mayor and 2 council folks can vote against the removal of the PC extension
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The fire chief even admits that after spending $25-30M for the extension, the standard for emergency response time is still not met. How can they spend that kind of money without having even talked about an $18M fire station in the new growth area that would come closer to meeting the standards. A point that should have already been included rather than this extension. Instead the city sold a potential fire station site in this area in 2021. Yep, the same folks that bought us an empty Macy's store in the mall.

I appreciate the time spent by our council members, but we need folks that have more common everyday sense. Thanks to the four councilmembers that voted Yes, particularly Yancy and White who spent their council time with some common sense discussion.

Bob's Facebook:


Tonight College Station City Council voted to remove the Pebble Creek Parkway extension from the Thoroughfare Plan. The citizens of Pebble Creek showed up, were prepared, and spoke clearly about what makes their neighborhood worth protecting.

I want to be direct about something: this was never about being anti-growth. College Station will grow and should. The question is always how we grow, and whether the major roads we build serve neighborhoods, or run through them.
Our Comprehensive Plan says neighborhoods should capitalize on what sets them apart. Pebble Creek has done exactly that for thirty years. Tonight's vote honored that.

College Station is a neighborhood-integrity city. Anthony Armstrong and his planning team, and Chief Richard Mann and his department, presented thorough, professional work tonight. I disagreed with the staff recommendation, but I respect the integrity of the process and the people who carried it out. Good governance requires both good staff and a council willing to make hard calls. Tonight we had both.

Next steps matter. Fire Station 8 planning, Lakeway Drive reclassification, and securing a fire station site in the southeastern growth corridor. Tonight's vote was a beginning, not an ending. The citizens who packed that chamber deserve nothing less than follow-through.

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birdman said:

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Yall have made good arguments, and the community has spoken very clearly. But you are naive.


The majority of city council and all of the city staff don't care what you think. Literally, do not care. You are irrelevant NPCs. It's all about their power and lining their pockets. That's it.


Nothing you say will ever change their mind. Only when they feel their power or personal finances threatened, they'll straighten up. That's what happened on data center.


Bob Yancey is a good guy looking out for the citizens. He is alone.

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I have to laugh at this, you're taking the side of a small, wealthy subdivision and painting it like the underdog heroic citizens who fight back against the corrupt government when it can arguably be flipped the other way around, a group of well-connected citizens with a councilman in their pockets trying to throw a wrench into the city's thoroughfare plan.


I'm oversimplifying things for dramatic effect and I'm not saying that the Pebble Creek plan as it stands doesn't have serious issues, but this is either complete nonsense or brilliant propaganda.

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You're right, PC is a wealthy and well connected neighborhood yet here we are with city leadership thinking their opinions are more important than those of the taxpayers and voters. I think the bigger issue here is if they'll do this to a neighborhood like Pebble Creek despite a massive amount of pushback from the residents there AND their own admission that it won't solve the problems they need to solve then what won't they do to whatever community they want to disrupt next?

Remember the Mayor voted FOR the Data Center and to keep the PC PKWY extension in place. And so did that pompous city councilman with the white coat I don't care enough about him to look up his name right now, but I will come election time.

Spineless City Council voted in favor of interest of a few instead of the good of the community by killing the needed road extension. Disappointing.

Those opposing the extension will be the same people complaining about traffic on highway 6.

Stevecstx61 said:

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Spineless City Council voted in favor of interest of a few instead of the good of the community by killing the needed road extension. Disappointing.

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Gotta placate the olds at the expense of everyone else. On par for this city.

If I understood the exchange between the city manager, council members and the public speaker, an emergency only road is not allowed under state law. That's why city staff did not consider it as an alternative.

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Spineless City Council voted in favor of interest of a few instead of the good of the community by killing the needed road extension. Disappointing.

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What need was going to be served by extending Pebble Creek Pkwy that couldn't be served by extending Lakeway? That's the ultimate question here. Why THAT road through a residential community instead of a road that's already entirely commercial? Neither solves the issue of response time for emergency services so why were they so determined to disrupt Pebble Creek subdivision?

Thanks. I'll hang up and listen.

Maybe the city should have put a fire station in Southerne Point like they originally planned to do and none of this would be an issue.

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Maybe the city should have put a fire station in Southerne Point like they originally planned to do and none of this would be an issue.

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The issue is the city manager's ego and a new fire station looks like good government but that's bad for his legacy. He was convinced he could force Pebble Creek to accept this turd sandwich so he dug in instead of championing the decision that best served the residents of this city. Had I gone last night I was intent on speaking to council to ask which of them could be counted on to support replacing the city manager who understood the role better.

Might as well put a gate on Pebble Creek now, and make it a gated neighborhood. If they want to be left alone, let them maintain and take care of all of their own infrastructure too.

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Might as well put a gate on Pebble Creek now, and make it a gated neighborhood. If they want to be left alone, let them maintain and take care of all of their own infrastructure too.

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Such a bad take. I still haven't gotten an answer to my very basic question above. Why was this project mission critical to the city? It doesn't make emergency response times such that you avoid the cost of a new fire station so what exactly would they accomplish? If you're looking for a north/south corridor that's fine but what does this project accomplish that Lakeway or Rock Prairie cannot and why is this the right choice?

Look the truth is we all moved here because PC is a quiet community without a ton of traffic. If that makes us bad people then so be it, I'm a bad person. But that still doesn't answer the question as to why this project was so important to city staff that it was worth changing the nature of one of the biggest subdivisions in town. Maybe you can answer that for me because the other person I asked on this thread hasn't done so.

Thanks.

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PS3D said:

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birdman said:

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Yall have made good arguments, and the community has spoken very clearly. But you are naive.


The majority of city council and all of the city staff don't care what you think. Literally, do not care. You are irrelevant NPCs. It's all about their power and lining their pockets. That's it.


Nothing you say will ever change their mind. Only when they feel their power or personal finances threatened, they'll straighten up. That's what happened on data center.


Bob Yancey is a good guy looking out for the citizens. He is alone.

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I have to laugh at this, you're taking the side of a small, wealthy subdivision and painting it like the underdog heroic citizens who fight back against the corrupt government when it can arguably be flipped the other way around, a group of well-connected citizens with a councilman in their pockets trying to throw a wrench into the city's thoroughfare plan.


I'm oversimplifying things for dramatic effect and I'm not saying that the Pebble Creek plan as it stands doesn't have serious issues, but this is either complete nonsense or brilliant propaganda.

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You're right, PC is a wealthy and well connected neighborhood yet here we are with city leadership thinking their opinions are more important than those of the taxpayers and voters. I think the bigger issue here is if they'll do this to a neighborhood like Pebble Creek despite a massive amount of pushback from the residents there AND their own admission that it won't solve the problems they need to solve then what won't they do to whatever community they want to disrupt next?

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Pebble Creek Parkway was always supposed to be extended further than it did. They're not arbitrarily jumping on a minor collector street to try to make a bigger road. Not a lot of other streets and neighborhoods you can say the same about.

PS3D said:

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LOYAL AG said:

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PS3D said:

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birdman said:

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Yall have made good arguments, and the community has spoken very clearly. But you are naive.


The majority of city council and all of the city staff don't care what you think. Literally, do not care. You are irrelevant NPCs. It's all about their power and lining their pockets. That's it.


Nothing you say will ever change their mind. Only when they feel their power or personal finances threatened, they'll straighten up. That's what happened on data center.


Bob Yancey is a good guy looking out for the citizens. He is alone.

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I have to laugh at this, you're taking the side of a small, wealthy subdivision and painting it like the underdog heroic citizens who fight back against the corrupt government when it can arguably be flipped the other way around, a group of well-connected citizens with a councilman in their pockets trying to throw a wrench into the city's thoroughfare plan.


I'm oversimplifying things for dramatic effect and I'm not saying that the Pebble Creek plan as it stands doesn't have serious issues, but this is either complete nonsense or brilliant propaganda.

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You're right, PC is a wealthy and well connected neighborhood yet here we are with city leadership thinking their opinions are more important than those of the taxpayers and voters. I think the bigger issue here is if they'll do this to a neighborhood like Pebble Creek despite a massive amount of pushback from the residents there AND their own admission that it won't solve the problems they need to solve then what won't they do to whatever community they want to disrupt next?

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Pebble Creek Parkway was always supposed to be extended further than it did. They're not arbitrarily jumping on a minor collector street to try to make a bigger road. Not a lot of other streets and neighborhoods you can say the same about.

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So they're emotionally attached to a 34 year old plan that's become obsolete with current development and needs? That's what this looks like. Needs change and this plan was severely outdated.

You skipped the important part of the post. What does this accomplish that you don't get from Rock Prairie or Lakeway? For that matter what do you get from any of those three that you actually need? It doesn't eliminate the need for a new fire station around Southern Pointe and to me that's the ultimate question. Expanding Pebble Creek Parkway doesn't solve really any problems that exist in 2026 so why do it other than because it's always been the plan?