Student Housing in College Station / Bryan

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Bob Yancy
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9:33a, 8/22/25
Fascinating story on student housing in CS/B in the Eagle this morning.

Constructive feedback sought: Student districts, challenges and solutions.

My research indicates university cities large and midsized usually have Student Districts with a broad array of housing options and amenities. Cities often promote these districts and the areas are sought after enclaves or larger areas that are the "place to be" for students from freshman to grad school.

But our student housing approach seems to be "on campus, or anywhere else" that a student can find. They tend to move often, even beyond the traditional "first year on campus, then off" that is customary.

Is the entire city a large student district? Should it be that way? What strategies can we employ to address housing in our city writ large, or are we doing exactly what we should?

Very interested to hear feedback.

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Yancy '95
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10:05a, 8/22/25
I moved to College Station from out of state with full knowledge that there would be lots of students in any neighborhood. I looked forward to living next to college students -- that's just part of the deal of moving to a college town. It's even in the city's name! To me, we might as well rename our city 'you will live next to students, like it or lump it'.

It's the biggest university in the US, depending on how you measure headcount (as with all things). And there will never be a situation in the near future, likely ever, where any meaningful fraction of those students live on-campus (currently 21% of undergrads, Google tells me, and that's not accounting for the prodigious number of graduate students and post-docs).

I was shocked and horrified after moving here, when my retiree neighbors immediately started suggesting in conversation that I needed to treat my student neighbors as enemies in a war to 'save our neighborhoods'. So, I just think anyone who lives in *College* Station and complains about students is just some special sort of silly. The students are kind and quiet in my neighborhood, its the families that have lots of cars parked on the street, and the only time my street became truly problematic and I couldn't get to my driveway, it wasn't due to a college party but a neighbor's overcrowded retirement bash.

So, yeah, I live closer to the Bryan side of town, so I expect more students in my neighborhood than not, but I kind of think students will live all over town, anywhere the economics allows it. Maybe more could be done to bring the permanent residents and the students together -- I noticed at the fourth of July show there were lots of groups of undergrads, sitting scattered along with young families and groups of senior citizens, and I thought to myself how rare it was to see all of them in one place outside of the grocery store.
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10:18a, 8/22/25
If we decided that everyone from a certain race lived in a certain district it would be frowned upon ( and illegal ).

What makes you think that discriminating based on age is a better idea? Has College Station not learned anything from the recent laws put in place by the Texas Legislature?
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In reply to Tumble Weed • 10:30a, 8/22/25
Tumble Weed said:
If we decided that everyone from a certain race lived in a certain district it would be frowned upon ( and illegal ).

What makes you think that discriminating based on age is a better idea? Has College Station not learned anything from the recent laws put in place by the Texas Legislature?


I'm not proposing that we legislate where people live. Please don't misunderstand me. Other cities have informal or specified student districts that students and young Urban professionals consider cool and sought after.

Through incentives, we could create such districts. Is that a bad idea?
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In reply to Bob Yancy • 10:31a, 8/22/25
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Bob Yancy said:
Tumble Weed said:
If we decided that everyone from a certain race lived in a certain district it would be frowned upon ( and illegal ).

What makes you think that discriminating based on age is a better idea? Has College Station not learned anything from the recent laws put in place by the Texas Legislature?


I'm not proposing that we legislate where people live. Please don't misunderstand me. Other cities have informal or specified student districts that students and young Urban professionals consider cool and sought after.

Through incentives, we could create such districts. Is that a bad idea?

Yes, it's a terrible idea. Let the market create these districts.

There are also zero "Young Urban Professionals" in College Station.
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10:42a, 8/22/25
I think the district students should live in IS the city of College Station.

Look, this whole idea of carving out student-only enclaves doesn't really apply here because the math just doesn't work in it's favor. Texas A&M has about 77,000+ students enrolled (fall 2024 numbers), while College Station's entire population is roughly 125,000. Even if you add in Bryan (~90,000), students are still close to half of the combined population and in College Station proper they're the majority. Only about 21% of undergrads live on campus, which means tens of thousands of students are spread across the city already.

So, by the numbers, it's not a case of "where should students live?" it's "where should the relatively smaller number of permanent residents live?" Students already are the dominant demographic, and have been for since the founding of the city.

Maybe instead of asking how to corral students into special zones, we should be talking about offering incentives to the locals to live in certain districts since they're the minority here.
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In reply to powerbelly • 10:53a, 8/22/25
powerbelly said:
Bob Yancy said:
Tumble Weed said:
If we decided that everyone from a certain race lived in a certain district it would be frowned upon ( and illegal ).

What makes you think that discriminating based on age is a better idea? Has College Station not learned anything from the recent laws put in place by the Texas Legislature?


I'm not proposing that we legislate where people live. Please don't misunderstand me. Other cities have informal or specified student districts that students and young Urban professionals consider cool and sought after.

Through incentives, we could create such districts. Is that a bad idea?

Yes, it's a terrible idea. Let the market create these districts.

There are also zero "Young Urban Professionals" in College Station.


There would be if we leveraged economic development. We haven't done a true primary job generating economic development deal since FUJIFILM. Not at scale, anyway. Different topic. Keenly focused on it.

Respectfully

Yancy '95
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In reply to Bob Yancy • 11:01a, 8/22/25
Bob Yancy said:
Tumble Weed said:
If we decided that everyone from a certain race lived in a certain district it would be frowned upon ( and illegal ).

What makes you think that discriminating based on age is a better idea? Has College Station not learned anything from the recent laws put in place by the Texas Legislature?


I'm not proposing that we legislate where people live. Please don't misunderstand me. Other cities have informal or specified student districts that students and young Urban professionals consider cool and sought after.

Through incentives, we could create such districts. Is that a bad idea?

I think that we should start by creating a district for people that really like dogs. It would have more dog parks and we wouldn't have to live next to people that prefer goldfish. The dogs could bark and howl and dig to their hearts content.

A district for people that really like their grass to be between 1.5 inches tall to 1.75 inches tall. They would naturally think that it is cool and sought after to appreciate the grass. No Bermuda, just St. Augustine. Not too many trees.

A district for people that like to run around half naked when they exercise.

A district for vegetarians. No BBQ restaurants located in this zone.

When a student comes, they can decide whether they like dogs, or lawn care, or exercise, or bragging about their diet. There is the curious case of the vegetarian who runs with their dog and mows their lawn. They can live anywhere they want, as long as they pay rent or buy a house.
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In reply to Bob Yancy • 11:01a, 8/22/25
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Respectfully, College Station should be a college town first and foremost. It doesn't need an Urban core. The plot has been completely lost the last decade.
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In reply to BCS-Ag • 11:01a, 8/22/25
BCS-Ag said:
I think the district students should live in IS the city of College Station.

Look, this whole idea of carving out student-only enclaves doesn't really apply here because the math just doesn't work in it's favor. Texas A&M has about 77,000+ students enrolled (fall 2024 numbers), while College Station's entire population is roughly 125,000. Even if you add in Bryan (~90,000), students are still close to half of the combined population and in College Station proper they're the majority. Only about 21% of undergrads live on campus, which means tens of thousands of students are spread across the city already.

So, by the numbers, it's not a case of "where should students live?" it's "where should the relatively smaller number of permanent residents live?" Students already are the dominant demographic, and have been for since the founding of the city.

Maybe instead of asking how to corral students into special zones, we should be talking about offering incentives to the locals to live in certain districts since they're the minority here.


"Corral" is your word, not mine. And I would think the population mix is a greater incentive to ensure such districts exist, not less.

Why would larger cities even need a nod to district creation given the vast housing opportunities given rise to by a sizable permanent population? Those cities could easily just absorb the fractional student-to-permanent resident ratio. Yet these cities do so anyway. Why is that?

Hyde Park (Leeds, UK): A popular choice for students in Leeds, offering a range of houses and flats within walking distance of universities and with easy access to the city center. It's known for its lively atmosphere.

West Campus (Austin, TX, USA): Designed specifically to provide residential housing for University of Texas students and staff close to the main campus.

North Campus (Austin, TX, USA): Known for being bike-friendly and close to many sporting complexes, parks, and university buildings, particularly engineering facilities.

Capitol Hill (Seattle, WA, USA): A diverse, trendy, and fast-paced neighborhood near Seattle Central College, offering vibrant nightlife, bars, clubs, concerts, and neighborhood parties.

Elmwood (Berkeley, CA, USA): A charming and lively neighborhood in South Berkeley, home to both UC Berkeley students and a mix of families and professionals.

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Yancy '95
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In reply to Bob Yancy • 11:08a, 8/22/25
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Your cherry picking of cities shows you aren't taking this seriously at all.
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In reply to powerbelly • 11:28a, 8/22/25
powerbelly said:
Your cherry picking of cities shows you aren't taking this seriously at all.


Those student districts are the result of an AI search, not cherry picked. And if I wasn't serious on the topic I wouldn't have broached it at all.

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Yancy '95
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In reply to Bob Yancy • 11:31a, 8/22/25
Bob Yancy said:
powerbelly said:
Bob Yancy said:
Tumble Weed said:
If we decided that everyone from a certain race lived in a certain district it would be frowned upon ( and illegal ).

What makes you think that discriminating based on age is a better idea? Has College Station not learned anything from the recent laws put in place by the Texas Legislature?


I'm not proposing that we legislate where people live. Please don't misunderstand me. Other cities have informal or specified student districts that students and young Urban professionals consider cool and sought after.

Through incentives, we could create such districts. Is that a bad idea?

Yes, it's a terrible idea. Let the market create these districts.

There are also zero "Young Urban Professionals" in College Station.


There would be if we leveraged economic development. We haven't done a true primary job generating economic development deal since FUJIFILM. Not at scale, anyway. Different topic. Keenly focused on it.

Respectfully

Yancy '95


Someone ordered Michael Young to fire Bret Giroir his first week as President. That killed any BioCorridor momentum.

But hey, at least that someone didn't have to listen to differing opinions.
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In reply to Bob Yancy • 11:48a, 8/22/25
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Bob Yancy said:
powerbelly said:
Your cherry picking of cities shows you aren't taking this seriously at all.


Those student districts are the result of an AI search, not cherry picked. And if I wasn't serious on the topic I wouldn't have broached it at all.

Respectfully

Yancy '95

Once again, an unedited AI search demonstrates your lack of seriousness. You may not think so, but this is as low effort as humanly possible and shows you aren't looking for serious input/discussion.
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In reply to powerbelly • 11:54a, 8/22/25
powerbelly said:


There are also zero "Young Urban Professionals" in College Station.

Which part are you saying doesn't exist?

There are certainly young professionals, are you saying that this isn't an urban area, or we all live in Bryan?
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In reply to plant science guy • 12:01p, 8/22/25
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plant science guy said:
powerbelly said:


There are also zero "Young Urban Professionals" in College Station.

Which part are you saying doesn't exist?

There are certainly young professionals, are you saying that this isn't an urban area, or we all live in Bryan?

Point me to the urban area of College Station.
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In reply to powerbelly • 12:16p, 8/22/25
powerbelly said:
Bob Yancy said:
powerbelly said:
Your cherry picking of cities shows you aren't taking this seriously at all.


Those student districts are the result of an AI search, not cherry picked. And if I wasn't serious on the topic I wouldn't have broached it at all.

Respectfully

Yancy '95

Once again, an unedited AI search demonstrates your lack of seriousness. You may not think so, but this is as low effort as humanly possible and shows you aren't looking for serious input/discussion.


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12:18p, 8/22/25
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College Station (College Station, TX, USA): Just south of Bryan, TX. Known for being bike-friendly and close to many sporting complexes, parks, and university buildings, particularly engineering facilities.
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In reply to woodometer • 12:49p, 8/22/25
woodometer said:
College Station (College Station, TX, USA): Just south of Bryan, TX. Known for being bike-friendly and close to many sporting complexes, parks, and university buildings, particularly engineering facilities.


I needed to rent a car for a one-way trip earlier this week. Hertz on Texas near SW Pkwy was the only rental agency with availability for a one-way trip.

In Hertz next to me was a German Ph.D. candidate. He needed a car for a few days. Hertz wasn't making it easy for him so he left on foot. I went and picked him up on the next block by CVS after I got my rental.

He was going to walk to O&M. I was glad to save him the steps.

His first comment when I asked him how he liked Aggieland was "it's not very walkable. It's not very easy to get around. I'm going to need to buy a car soon."

It's certainly not bike friendly at Texas and SW Pkwy.
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3:12p, 8/22/25
Only 21 percent of undergrads live on campus? I think there were way more when I went there. I think that it wasn't that uncommon for seniors to be off-campus, but it seemed like most freshman and a decent amount of sophomores and juniors lived on campus.

I've heard that A&M hasn't really kept up with dorms though. They're not building enough new ones for the increased number of students.

Even when I went there (graduated in '95), dorms filled up pretty quickly. If you didn't apply for a dorm soon enough, you might wind up having to live off-campus even if you didn't want to.

I don't think "student districts" would work very well here. If students have to live off campus, they're generally going to prefer being close enough that they could walk (not that they necessarily would walk, but close enough that they have the option), and areas that close to campus include historical districts that have absolutely no interest in being marketed as primarily for students.
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3:19p, 8/22/25
This whole thread is comical.

There are multiple high-rises in the Northgate area and more being built as I type this. And still more that are planned. And pretty much all the older apartments or duplexes or houses back there are rentals.

There ya go, councilman. There is your "enclave".

Not enough?

Let me show you South Holleman.

The Barracks and eleventy other apartment complexes all in that area.

That's two enclaves.

Wait!!!!

More down Dominik and including all of sorority row!

Hold on!

Ag Shacks galore back behind Fuego and the Jewish center and Barnes & Noble and Best Buy!

Shall I continue? I just identified four enclaves.
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3:48p, 8/22/25
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Having had a student that lived in a couple of Northgate high rises, my observation is they are built on the very cheap - i.e. H&M style construction. I worry what shape those high rises are going to be in in 10-20 years if they are mostly crap when built. And there is a lot of risk given how tall and how many unit are being allowed with the new high rises being built. The structures are totally out of the character of the previously existing Northgate.

There are also few amenities in this area - restaurants and grocery stores included. Most every one there has to bring a car.

My fear is that this area would become a dilapidated, over-crowded, and undesirable place to live. I looked for a word to more simply encapsulate that description and Google told me the word is "slum".
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In reply to maroon barchetta • 6:57p, 8/22/25
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Yes, the answer is Northgate as more and more housing goes up. A little confused by this thread or posing a question like we don't already have a housing enclave tbh.

As more high rises and density go up, you'll hopefully see additional services like a grocery store and more dining options, particularly fast casual. If we let the market drive things, it will also likely become increasingly expensive real estate for the existing bars and eventually price them out and lead to even more student housing towers and density there. The bars that will be left will be higher end and charging $15 for a jack and coke just to survive.

I think the more interesting question is where will the new bar/entertainment/cheap drink district be. Perhaps the area on Harvey across from the mall where there are several run down apartments. The area is ripe for development and might help the entire mall area with additional restaurants and foot traffic.
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In reply to Bob Yancy • 7:09p, 8/22/25
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Bob Yancy said:
Tumble Weed said:
If we decided that everyone from a certain race lived in a certain district it would be frowned upon ( and illegal ).

What makes you think that discriminating based on age is a better idea? Has College Station not learned anything from the recent laws put in place by the Texas Legislature?


I'm not proposing that we legislate where people live. Please don't misunderstand me. Other cities have informal or specified student districts that students and young Urban professionals consider cool and sought after.

Through incentives, we could create such districts. Is that a bad idea?

It's called Northgate. and the Barracks.
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In reply to Bob Yancy • 11:55p, 8/22/25
Making economic incentive agreements is not the same as getting out of the way and letting entrepreneurs take advantage of the amazing opportunities we have here. Stop trying to direct the economy. Stop trying to spend our money. And no, saying "I am a capitalist but…" before you push big government policies doesn't make it better.
Brian Alg

My words are not intended to be disrespectful to any of the staid and venerable members of College Station City Council
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In reply to Aggie_Fire • 8:04a, 8/23/25
Aggie_Fire said:
Bob Yancy said:
Tumble Weed said:
If we decided that everyone from a certain race lived in a certain district it would be frowned upon ( and illegal ).

What makes you think that discriminating based on age is a better idea? Has College Station not learned anything from the recent laws put in place by the Texas Legislature?


I'm not proposing that we legislate where people live. Please don't misunderstand me. Other cities have informal or specified student districts that students and young Urban professionals consider cool and sought after.

Through incentives, we could create such districts. Is that a bad idea?

It's called Northgate. and the Barracks.


When I think of a district- it has amenities like grocery stores, restaurants and shops. It's walkable from a variety of housing types to a coffee shop and a park and a theater and live music.

Northgate is that district for us and soon will have all of those things.

The Barracks is not its own district. It's a housing development in a general area that I believe should be formalized as a district. I'm of the belief we need to reduce or eliminate development fees in this newly defined area in order to incentivize smart growth in student housing and living options.

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Yancy '95
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In reply to Bob Yancy • 8:06a, 8/23/25
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Are you saying grocery is coming to Northgate soon
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In reply to Bob Yancy • 8:06a, 8/23/25
Your belief is incorrect.

Hope that helps.
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In reply to Captn_Ag05 • 8:56a, 8/23/25
Captn_Ag05 said:
Are you saying grocery is coming to Northgate soon


Yes that's in the works on the last plan I saw for Legacy Point, at the corner of S College and University. Plans change but that was depicted on the schematic I saw. That's not Northgate proper but it's very very close.

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9:05a, 8/23/25
Its just a ratio thing. High percentage of students to total size of the town. And we arent unique. There's many many other college towns that are exactly the same. And people love them for what they are.
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9:08a, 8/23/25
Culpeppers have really wanted a boutique grocery as an anchor for Legacy Point and they've spoken to all of the usual suspects. I haven't visited with them about it again for some time but I'm sure we'll meet soon now that their trajectory for the project is more clear.

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In reply to Bob Yancy • 9:28a, 8/23/25
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Bob Yancy said:
Captn_Ag05 said:
Are you saying grocery is coming to Northgate soon


Yes that's in the works on the last plan I saw for Legacy Point, at the corner of S College and University. Plans change but that was depicted on the schematic I saw. That's not Northgate proper but it's very very close.

Respectfully

Yancy '95


Thanks for the intel. I hope it happens.
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In reply to australopithecus robustus • 10:11a, 8/23/25
australopithecus robustus said:
Culpeppers have really wanted a boutique grocery as an anchor for Legacy Point and they've spoken to all of the usual suspects. I haven't visited with them about it again for some time but I'm sure we'll meet soon now that their trajectory for the project is more clear.



There's a building over there in NG, maybe across from the entrance to the city parking garage. It's a 4 or 5 story with maybe a 5,000 sq ft footprint? Red brick and iron affair with artificial turf patio deck. What is that building? I'm told it's highly sought after and always full. Something about that size of building has an appeal. The market will decide, but I think it'd be really cool (if "cool" still means cool) with several of those interspersed with a few towers and lots of amenities. Feels very young urban professional to me- a demographic we are losing which I worry about.

Just opining

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Yancy '95
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In reply to Bob Yancy • 10:23a, 8/23/25
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Feels very young urban professional to me- a demographic we are losing which I worry about.


Why? The town is thriving. College Station is not Houston or Dallas or New York. It doesn't need "young urban professionals"
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In reply to Bob Yancy • 10:26a, 8/23/25
I think it used to be called The Tradition but it might have changed owners and names since then.
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