TAMU1990 said:
The guy looks to be a good hire. Denton Guyer isn't a slouch. Winning program. He was even at North Texas.
His resume is good but he'll have to get the athletes to compete, which Bryan has been lacking.
gibby03 said:
Few issues at Bryan High.
1. Shouldn't be in 6A. Have to find a way to get some kids moved to Rudder to get Bryan High back down to 5A. That alone won't make it easier just more realistic in numbers of kids competing against others. The 5A district around here isn't easy by any means.
2. Bryan High is overwhelmingly Hispanic. Those kids don't play football very much. Which means the AA and White kids have to come out in high numbers to compete. You better hit on those kids too because you can't afford to have half of those kids not be athletic.
3. There's a fine balance of how you handle these kids in Bryan. There are lots of kids roaming the hallways who don't play sports. Name a reason as to why and you'll probably be correct, but you have to get those kids out. The problem is, you take a kid who hasn't consistently played sports, put them in a highly competitive environment, they don't experience success right away and they quit. That's human nature these days with youth.
4. The other balancing act is, do you allow the "problem" kids out, which will normally make you more athletically equal but deal with the issues that come with that? Or, hold kids to a standard and know that you'll probably lose some athletes. It's a fine balancing act that not many people can do well. Maybe Joseph can but that will be his charge.
5. You have to restructure the MS and/or hire young kids out of college who really WANT to coach, to be teachers. Young guys who want to invest in being legitimate and professional coaches. Develop kids and build from within. By the time they get to HS they have either been playing for 2 years or they haven't. You want them playing.
6. Bob Bellard's issue was that it was football and football only. Other sports didn't matter. Time wasn't invested. Some sports had success, that wasn't the issue, it was that there wasn't an entire athletic program focused on developing kids, coaches and the program as a whole. Joseph will have to do that.
7. Let the coaches coach. Too many parents in Bryan want Bryan high to be the Bryan High of old. It ain't that. The demographics aren't the same. The athletes aren't the same. The landscape isn't the same. But the negativity from some of those parents absolutely kills any momentum Bryan has gained over the years. In 2014 and 2015 they win back to back District titles. Advance 2-3 rounds deep. In 2016 they end the year 6-6 but lose in the 2nd round. Next thing you know there are parents moving their kids to CSHS and Consol because "those coaches don't know s***". That's a problem.
Those are just my opinions.
Boozer92 said:
BISD really needs to figure out how to move 200 students from Bryan High to Rudder. Bryan always being one of the smallest 6a schools definitely hurts their ability to compete. For the 2026 realignment they are 52 students above being 5a. Having all 4 high schools competing with each other in town would be a good thing for all 4 of them
ETA Bryan had fewer than 100 more students than Consol. Both CISD schools are some of the largest in 5a.
gibby03 said:
Yes but it wasn't intentional. The lowering of the number was an indication of a decrease in kids in schools which is a trend across the state.
Mr.Short-termMemory said:gibby03 said:
Yes but it wasn't intentional. The lowering of the number was an indication of a decrease in kids in schools which is a trend across the state.
Correct. But intentional or not, it makes it hard for the district to "try to get under the limit" when you don't know what your target limit is ahead of time.
gibby03 said:Mr.Short-termMemory said:gibby03 said:
Yes but it wasn't intentional. The lowering of the number was an indication of a decrease in kids in schools which is a trend across the state.
Correct. But intentional or not, it makes it hard for the district to "try to get under the limit" when you don't know what your target limit is ahead of time.
I think your missing the point. There was no intentional design to fix the issue. It was status quo without a plan. THEN, numbers came out and it looks like "oh man, they were right there. So close".
If there was truly a plan that number would've dropped by a couple hundred due to zoning to balance the schools. That's a designed plan that takes a couple of years to come to fruition. That is what hasn't happened for a long time. Then, it's not close when the UIL does their snapshot.
Mr.Short-termMemory said:gibby03 said:Mr.Short-termMemory said:gibby03 said:
Yes but it wasn't intentional. The lowering of the number was an indication of a decrease in kids in schools which is a trend across the state.
Correct. But intentional or not, it makes it hard for the district to "try to get under the limit" when you don't know what your target limit is ahead of time.
I think your missing the point. There was no intentional design to fix the issue. It was status quo without a plan. THEN, numbers came out and it looks like "oh man, they were right there. So close".
If there was truly a plan that number would've dropped by a couple hundred due to zoning to balance the schools. That's a designed plan that takes a couple of years to come to fruition. That is what hasn't happened for a long time. Then, it's not close when the UIL does their snapshot.
I'm on the outside looking in. I don't have insider knowledge you appear to.
I'm not in BISD administration. I have had discussions with some on working to get numbers lower. You're right, they did not rezone to get lower. But there are more than one way to skin a cat. And I'm familiar with some of those plans that were being worked.
gibby03 said:
Few issues at Bryan High.
2. Bryan High is overwhelmingly Hispanic. Those kids don't play football very much. Which means the AA and White kids have to come out in high numbers to compete. You better hit on those kids too because you can't afford to have half of those kids not be athletic.
