What is going on at Boonville Kroger? [Staff Warning in OP]

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75AG said:

Not for illegal immigration at all. But as the father of a LEO officer, I do not support the tactics used by ICE. It pits my son and other legit LEO in danger. Do not conflate the two.

If your son had people following him around all day, blocking traffic and harassing him, his "tactics" might become similar.

Let ICE do their jobs, and nobody would even know they are there.
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Rolled the window down, Gave em a thumbs down and yelled Deport Them All. Same with the crowd on Briarcrest.

Personally I don't think ICE is doing enough under this admin. Obama admin deported way more people and no one seemed to care. We need Obama back IMO.
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75AG said:

Not for illegal immigration at all. But as the father of a LEO officer, I do not support the tactics used by ICE. It pits my son and other legit LEO in danger. Do not conflate the two.

I disagree with that. People following ice around and protesting are putting people in danger.
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75AG said:

Not for illegal immigration at all. But as the father of a LEO officer, I do not support the tactics used by ICE. It pits my son and other legit LEO in danger. Do not conflate the two.


Wow. I think ICE is too patient. And it's folks like Rusty stirring them up.
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All the students protesting for 3 targeted arrests of wanted illegal immigrants. Watching Rusty's page you'd think they were just picking up every Hispanic person in Bryan.
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75AG said:

Not for illegal immigration at all. But as the father of a LEO officer, I do not support the tactics used by ICE. It pits my son and other legit LEO in danger. Do not conflate the two.


You don't think ICE is legit?
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Message from Channelview. Guess BISD is doing the same.

75AG
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Didn't say that. I believe they are not trained to be doing to duty DHS has assigned them. They are not trained to diffuse situations. They are trained to work the border and rural areas. They are operating under rules no police force would operate under.

I also know their training has been truncated and their vetting has been poor. All necessary for DHS to have sufficient officers
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75AG said:

I believe they are not trained to be doing to duty DHS has assigned them.

They are not trained to diffuse situations.
What situations exactly would need diffusing when apprehending people here illegally?


They are trained to work the border and rural areas.
Not according to all I have read, they are also trained for urban situations


They are operating under rules no police force would operate under.
They are not a traditional police force either


Look- my parents are Greek immigrants. My father came to this country as a student, got his undergrad and graduate degrees, then was kangaroo courted into the US Army in 1965 where he spent his days, mind you with an engineering degree, in Vietnam. He spent 3 years in a combat zone dodging bullets and pungi sticks for the US people. It took him 16 years to receive his naturalization (green card). It's hard for me to find sympathy for people who broke/circumvent the laws.

My father came here penniless and did it the right way. He speaks English (although he has a silly accent ), he assimilated to American culture. We don't demand all things be also published in Greek for our convenience.

We have immigration laws for a reason. That reason isn't to provide cheap labor and easy votes, it's to keep American resources for American Citizens.


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If you want our resources become a legal citizen. Join the team. Don't come here trying to make here the place you risked your life and prison to escape.
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75AG
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I've stated my position. And I appreciate yours. Your father sounds like an amazing man.

My father fought and was wounded in France in WWII. And he would be sickened to see masked men in military garb grabbing dark skinned men, women, and children off our streets on the assumption they are either illegally here, or someone who has committed a crime.

Trump promised to rid our country of criminals here illegally. Stephen Miller has turned this into a gestapo action.

We see it differently. There has to be middle ground.
Jbob04
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You do understand why they are wearing masks don't you?
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75AG said:

I've stated my position. And I appreciate yours. Your father sounds like an amazing man.

My father fought and was wounded in France in WWII. And he would be sickened to see masked men in military garb grabbing dark skinned men, women, and children off our streets on the assumption they are either illegally here, or someone who has committed a crime.

Trump promised to rid our country of criminals here illegally. Stephen Miller has turned this into a gestapo action.

We see it differently. There has to be middle ground.

I think the middle ground involves sanctuary cities and states allowing ICE to pick up illegals detained in police stations. No crowds, no fuss. Takes care of law breakers, avoids riots. Unfortunately blue cities and states don't allow that and we have our current situation where protesters get frenzied and put everyone at risk.
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EliteElectric
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Quote:

sickened to see masked men in military garb grabbing dark skinned men, women, and children off our streets on the assumption they are either illegally here, or someone who has committed a crime.

I've seen very little evidence of this outside of situations where those asked to provide info refuse and then are detained. Which is no different than what would happen to me if a BCS LEO officer pulled me over and asked for ID and I refused.

I agree that we will have to agree to disagree on this.

Also the anecdote that your father fought in France, although I am grateful and appreciative of his service my anecdote was from the perspective of an immigrant not a US citizen. Your father wasn't at the mercy of Uncle Scam for his right to remain in the US. My father was basically a drafted conscript.
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My father was permanently disabled from his injuries. Lived for 40 more years with those injuries. Let's not play this game.
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What game? I am confused.
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75AG
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Who's father had it worse game
EliteElectric
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Huh?

Sorry you took it that way and that wasn't what I was saying. I don't know you or your father so impossible for me to play any games, but again, and sorry if this comes out wrong- but my father was an immigrant conscripted into war. The perspective of immigration (legal or illegal) between us may be vastly different.
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75AG said:


Trump promised to rid our country of criminals here illegally.

Uh. That's what's happening.
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Broncos said:

75AG said:


Trump promised to rid our country of criminals here illegally.

Uh. That's what's happening.


Exactly. I mean, he's been in office a year.
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EliteElectric said:

75AG said:

I believe they are not trained to be doing to duty DHS has assigned them.

They are not trained to diffuse situations.
What situations exactly would need diffusing when apprehending people here illegally?


They are trained to work the border and rural areas.
Not according to all I have read, they are also trained for urban situations


They are operating under rules no police force would operate under.
They are not a traditional police force either


Look- my parents are Greek immigrants. My father came to this country as a student, got his undergrad and graduate degrees, then was kangaroo courted into the US Army in 1965 where he spent his days, mind you with an engineering degree, in Vietnam. He spent 3 years in a combat zone dodging bullets and pungi sticks for the US people. It took him 16 years to receive his naturalization (green card). It's hard for me to find sympathy for people who broke/circumvent the laws.

My father came here penniless and did it the right way. He speaks English (although he has a silly accent ), he assimilated to American culture. We don't demand all things be also published in Greek for our convenience.

We have immigration laws for a reason. That reason isn't to provide cheap labor and easy votes, it's to keep American resources for American Citizens.


*** ETA ***

If you want our resources become a legal citizen. Join the team. Don't come here trying to make here the place you risked your life and prison to escape.


This post deserves a second blue star.
techno-ag
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The Governor has called for an investigation of Austin ISD. This might spread to other districts involved, including here.

The left cannot kill the Spirit of Charlie Kirk.
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Jbob04 said:

75AG said:

Not for illegal immigration at all. But as the father of a LEO officer, I do not support the tactics used by ICE. It pits my son and other legit LEO in danger. Do not conflate the two.

I disagree with that. People following ice around and protesting are putting people in danger.

I disagree. The whole reason these people are following them around and are the way they are is because of the wrong tactics these ICE agents are using to get these illegals.

I'm not for illegal immigration /open borders either. But ICE is not some form of secret special govt police either. They are LEOs like our local and state police. Therefore, they should be going after these illegals using the same ways our local, state, etc officers would be using. Which is knowing who they are going after and having the appropriate warrants, etc before just snatching people off the streets, from gas pumps, as they come out of a store, etc. if you know who you are going after, because you have the correct info on them, which means you should have a warrant for their arrest, then by all means, cuff''em and stuff'em. But to just roll up on someone, ask for ID, shove them into your car, and then drive off where their families don't even know where they are for several hours or days, is not the way to do it.
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"But to just roll up on someone, ask for ID, shove them into your car, and then drive off where their families don't even know where they are for several hours or days, is not the way to do it."

I haven't heard or seen this reported. Are you sure about this?
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As far as local, there was video from a citizen at a local gas station where ICE pulled up to a white van, where the guy was pumping gas. They (I assume) asked for an ID (who knows), then cuffed him, put him in their unmarked Explorer, while another officer pulled his van over into a parking spot, and then hauled a$s away.

There have been multiple stories of people who have been taken away, that they have not been given access to call any family, lawyer, etc. for several hours/days.
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BucketofBalls99 said:

As far as local, there was video from a citizen at a local gas station where ICE pulled up to a white van, where the guy was pumping gas. They (I assume) asked for an ID (who knows), then cuffed him, put him in their unmarked Explorer, while another officer pulled his van over into a parking spot, and then hauled a$s away.

There have been multiple stories of people who have been taken away, that they have not been given access to call any family, lawyer, etc. for several hours/days.


One of these guys?

Quote:

BRYAN, Texas (KBTX) - Immigration enforcement efforts in Brazos County this week have led to the arrests of three men, all accused of entering the United States illegally on multiple occasions.

On Monday, Jose Victor Pantoja-Juandiego, 43, was detained by agents near Bryan. A spokesman for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement said to KBTX that Pantoja-Juandiego has entered the U.S. illegally 12 times, has been convicted of felony illegal re-entry and twice convicted of misdemeanor illegal entry.

The targeted enforcement operation on Monday also led to the arrest of Cesar Martinez-Martinez, 37, of Mexico, who has illegally entered the United States twice, an ICE spokesman in the Houston office said.

A 60-year-old from Mexico who has entered the U.S. illegally four times was also found this week and arrested for immigration violations, authorities confirmed. His name was not shared.


https://www.kbtx.com/2026/01/21/exclusive-ice-confirms-it-arrested-3-men-bryan-who-have-repeatedly-entered-us-illegally/
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BucketofBalls99 said:

As far as local, there was video from a citizen at a local gas station where ICE pulled up to a white van, where the guy was pumping gas. They (I assume) asked for an ID (who knows), then cuffed him, put him in their unmarked Explorer, while another officer pulled his van over into a parking spot, and then hauled a$s away.

There have been multiple stories of people who have been taken away, that they have not been given access to call any family, lawyer, etc. for several hours/days.

If the person at the gas station was indeed wanted for criminal activity, isn't this the way we want it done instead of breaking down their door at 5am?
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They are arresting known criminals, why is this a bad thing?
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KBTX even acknowledged that it was targeted - and not just a random snatching off the street. For those saying that, try getting your news from someone other than Don Lemon.
Jbob04
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They are illegally here, they don't deserve anything. Go back to where you came from or come here the legal way. End of story.
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Sounds like the governor should also investigate BISD:

https://www.fox7austin.com/news/abbott-directs-education-commissioner-investigate-austin-isd-student-ice-protests
Rex Racer
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BucketofBalls99 said:

Jbob04 said:

75AG said:

Not for illegal immigration at all. But as the father of a LEO officer, I do not support the tactics used by ICE. It pits my son and other legit LEO in danger. Do not conflate the two.

I disagree with that. People following ice around and protesting are putting people in danger.

I disagree. The whole reason these people are following them around and are the way they are is because of the wrong tactics these ICE agents are using to get these illegals.

I'm not for illegal immigration /open borders either. But ICE is not some form of secret special govt police either. They are LEOs like our local and state police. Therefore, they should be going after these illegals using the same ways our local, state, etc officers would be using. Which is knowing who they are going after and having the appropriate warrants, etc before just snatching people off the streets, from gas pumps, as they come out of a store, etc. if you know who you are going after, because you have the correct info on them, which means you should have a warrant for their arrest, then by all means, cuff''em and stuff'em. But to just roll up on someone, ask for ID, shove them into your car, and then drive off where their families don't even know where they are for several hours or days, is not the way to do it.


Their normal tactics are to get a call from local or state police that they have a criminal alien in custody and they want to release them to ICE. But these sanctuary cities and states refuse to do that. Therefore ICE must track them down and arrest them on their own.

If local authorities would cooperate with ICE, absolutely none of this would be happening. And if protesters would stick to one area and march and protest, none of this would be happening, either.

When agitators follow authorities around, yell and scream at them, kick their taillights out, etc. bad things are bound to happen.

ICE actually DOES have warrants with an order for removal signed by a judge the majority of times, and local authorities release the alien back into the community in the sanctuary jurisdictions.
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To act like these ICE raids are new and have no historic pretext is just being willfully blind or too young to remember just 20 or 30 years ago. I remember raids in my home town in the 80s. Hell, I think Cheech and Chong used to make fun of La Migra in a lot of their movies. People are just being manipulated by the media and democrats that this is just new age Nazi'ism or Fascism.

The fact is that occasionally the wrong people may be detained. It happens in all kind of law enforcement for all kinds of reasons. Always has. As long as they get it strait in the end I have no problem with it.

Too many millions were let in right through the front door the past few years. There is no feasible way to get even a portion of them back to their home countries without doing what we are currently doing or even being more aggressive with enforcement. It should never have been allowed to begin with and this appears to be the most efficient yet humane way to fix it. The illegals are not going to deport themselves and make it easy on ice to do their jobs.

I voted for this. Lets get it done. The Dems lost and need to stop making it more dangerous for everyone involved.
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