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Prosper School Board Election, or lack thereof.

3,921 Views | 28 Replies | Last: 22 days ago by ChoppinDs40
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For those Ags in the community, keep your eyes and ears open to the nefarious back door transplant takeover we're watching happen to our small community.

2 incumbents recently withdrew and the new challengers are now unopposed and no election will be held.

If you're supportive of the district and how/why it has continued to be one of the top ones in the state even with insane rapid growth, you should be questioning why longtime, pillars of that leadership are disappearing in the middle of the night.
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I saw these announcements the other day and certainly raised an eyebrow - do you have more detail or speculation as to what is happening in the background?
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East Dallas Ag said:

I saw these announcements the other day and certainly raised an eyebrow - do you have more detail or speculation as to what is happening in the background?



For fear of being doxxed, because that's part of what's happening, PM me.
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Let's clarify a couple things- Prosper is a "top" school district because of the smart affluent people that chose to move there and procreated new smart kids with generally good home lives. It has very little to do with the school board or school leadership. I would argue that Drew Watkins was shady as heck and the district actually got lucky when he was forced to retire. I lived in Prosper for 6 years and would not consider working there or put my kids in PISD while he was in charge.

Ferguson seems better, but she was a witness to his shenanigans and just kept quiet.

Prosper is no different than Richardson 40 years ago, Plano 30 years ago, Frisco 15 years ago, and Celina will be in 10 years. Although, Celina definitely has the potential to screw up that trend and be a new and improved dysfunctional Allen.

The only real decision the school board is involved in is hiring the superintendent. They pretend to be involved in a lot of things, but they generally just defer to the staff suggestions. Or, if the staff lacks the gumption to make a decision then they pawn it off on the board.

Just my 2 cents.
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This situation looks slimy as all get out. Clearly a contractor (Kiwi Authers) is trying to muscle on to the board and fleece the district for hugely profitable construction contracts.
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Yeah.. all for the sake of "transparency".

The whole "Pogue is getting rich off tax payer dollars and someone is getting kickbacks" is fan fiction.

The bids for all school projects are Open Bids. Everyone gets to bid and the lowest bidder wins (pretty much like the government except no minority owned, women owned special situations).

People don't realize that Pogue wins these because they've built the same school in Prosper 10x times. Other contractors try to get in but they can't do it.

If Pogue doesn't do the new ones (and there won't be that many more schools built in Prosper anyways), you'll see this was part of it.
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you've always had a negative view on Prosper and I respect that - at least you're consistent.

As someone who's lived here for 40 years, what the admin has done to keep one of, if not the fastest growing districts in the state on its trajectory is pretty impressive. Still has a "small town feel" with 35k kids in the district.

And you understand what's key - the board hires the superintendent and approves the budget - that's really it.

But often times (now), you've got board members thinking they're congressmen and can create policy, run on partisan platforms and turn it into a zoo.
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ChoppinDs40 said:


The whole "Pogue is getting rich off tax payer dollars and someone is getting kickbacks" is fan fiction.

Yeah, no idea why people would think a company founded by someone sent to prison for financial crimes and currently run by that person's son would commit financial crimes.

Authers is cut from the same cloth (came from Pogue).

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The bids for all school projects are Open Bids. Everyone gets to bid and the lowest bidder wins (pretty much like the government except no minority owned, women owned special situations).


This is the fictional part. Cmar contracts allow for all sorts of funny business and definitely are not the typical "lowest bidder" method most laypeople are going to think of when they hear that phrase.
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they paid to have an auditor find the dirty money... and guess what? Nothing - I guess we just keep the witch hunt going.
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Out of curiosity, are you not a fan of Dena Dixon or Tommy Van Wolfe or are you more opposed to the way they got their seats?
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Fan of both. Got their seat by votes. Not a fan of what's going on/went on that led to them dropping out.
FTAG 2000
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Shady AF they both dropped out. I'd love to know why. Common sense says some shenanigans involved.
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cadetjay02 said:

Prosper is a "top" school district because of the smart affluent people that chose to move there and procreated new smart kids with generally good home lives. It has very little to do with the school board or school leadership.


This is true of every top school district without exception.
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ChoppinDs40 said:

they paid to have an auditor find the dirty money... and guess what? Nothing - I guess we just keep the witch hunt going.

CMAR contracts as written by typical K-12 entities in Texas are ripe with ways for abuse that are not auditable. I don't know if it's intentional or just a lack of understanding about how things operate. Never mind that K-12 audits are an absolute joke themselves and these people aren't morons. There is a significant difference between a typical audit by a K-12 entity and something performed at the state or federal level. I have to deal with the latter all the time, it's a different animal entirely. I also can't find an actual copy of said report so I guess the people of Prosper are to just trust the process? I guess that is considered transparent in some people's mind.

Bottom line is that no general contractor is staying afloat, much less growing like Pogue has done on 2% fees. That simply is not a sustainable profit margin. 5-6% is minimum for a GC to even think about growing. They are getting that 3-4% somewhere by making money in other ways. They aren't the only ones either.
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Holly's out.

Well, effective end of year.

Wonder if that was condition for settlement of the sexual assault suits.
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Those are still ongoing. So I doubt it.

Also, that's suing the district - not her. Texas Scorecard's sensationalism of that event is pretty, well, sensationalized. Awful thing that happened but you can't monitor every minute of every day on every inch of school property.

The moment they found out about the issue, the guy was fired. He then committed suicide in prison.

The parents did not bring anything forward until a divorce got going and someone all of a sudden wanted a pound of flesh. And then here comes the "coverup". I highly doubt anything comes from that suit.

She had like 2 years left anyways. All the nonsense and some personal stuff with family was the final straw.

Sad day for the district, IMO. Now this board will probably bring in some out of state transplant and PISD will just be another poorly ran, non community focused district.
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It's hard for me to think the board members dropping out and now this with Holly are unrelated. Feels like a lot of smoke.
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Until proven otherwise everyone is going to conclude that the board members dropping out and Ferguson retiring are linked annd this anll smells bad.

And I am in the camp as well.

She was just renewed a month ago through 2031. What changed. What's changed in that time frame?



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Well, for one, constant speculation and pitchfork banging like this has been going on for too long. Thanks Erin Anderson and witch-hunt Facebook groups.

If you live in the district and see how much of a servant leader she is, I think you'd have a different view vs the mob. Maybe you do and have that same view - ok.

Honestly, I'm just too close to the situation. But her leaving is not a good day for the district.

When you have SAHM's slandering you 24/7, people openly speculating with no evidence at every turn..

And you work at least 70 hours a week for the district… at some point, especially when you've done nearly 30 years, it's time to hang em up.

Coupled with some deaths in the family, her kids being full grown, and needing to support family in other ways. Go out before the mob just continues to drag your name through the mud.


I mean hell, Watkins up and moved to middle of nowhere Colorado after retirement. This community is very inviting but many individuals have too much time on their hands and feel the need to potbang all the time.
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She was making $350,000 a year and will retire at $209,000 a year, I don't feel sorry for her. In fact I'm pretty jealous. Prosper will have to look outside of the district, highly doubt they go out of state.
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I always appreciate your insight given your close ties to the area for your entire life. And i am thankful for it because you do provide information i can't find anywhere else it seems.

I'm just a "regular" parent with no ties to the education system other than trying to do right by my kids. I don't have facebook or any other social media beside TexAgs and my opinions are formed by what I can glean from board meetings, PISD emails, and "News" articles.

I try not to draw conclusions but this past month is a head scratcher with no information available. If this is the right time for her and the Ferguson family then i wish her the best.
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If our kids(9th and 7th) were 3 grades younger, the house would be on the market tomorrow. The people constantly feeling the need to complain and keep up with the Jones is insane here and our neighborhood is right there leading the pack.
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I appreciate that. It's a tough day.

What's sad is people like Holly are what makes Prosper what it is. She won't be able to be replaced from that perspective.

There are plenty of naysayers and disgruntled employees that will point to other trains of thought and conjecture but the truth is, Prosper is one of the top districts in the state (and it isn't just because of people with money) because of what her, past boards, Watkins, and other administrators have done.
The district was thought of that way well before 2020 and goes back to when Deion "put it on the map".

Compare it to Celina, Melissa, and others and Prosper has left them in the dust (Prosper was in the same district as Celina, Gunter, Aubrey, and Pilot Point not too long ago). People that live in Gunter and other areas and work for Prosper still send their kids to Prosper. I wonder why? Celina still watching movies in class. Anyways.

The programs they offer, the community involvement, everything. You don't see that in districts with 35,000 students. And I don't think we'll see that again when someone from outside comes in.

Holly was raised in this community so it isn't just a job to her. It's life and has been her life since she was a kid.

What's unfortunate about the school bus thing is since it's tied up in litigation, nothing can be said publicly to clear any air. Except for the board member who took privileged information and spout it off and then got subpoenaed.

I just ask everyone to pay attention on how this search goes this fall and what the "new board" leans towards.
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I applaud your dedication and loyalty to Prosper, but we're never going to agree on what that actually means. I would concern myself more on what this superintendent emeritus status is. If she is going to do a lot of nothing at her current pay rate for 8 months then that's not a district or school board that I would be proud of. The January retirement date is clearly to get another year for TRS. Nothing in her bio says if she taught anywhere before her 23 years in Prosper or how old she is to calculate her retirement number.
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Then you don't know Holly. She won't be coasting. She has too much invested in the community and her staff.
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https://www.wfaa.com/article/life/local-life/prosper-isd-lawsuit-allege-mismanagement-sexual-abuse-board-members-leaders/287-128656d3-9d88-464f-b621-94ed3284df02?tbref=hp

The lawsuit, filed by two realtors who reside within Prosper ISD, specifically calls for the removal of Board President Bill Beavers, Vice President Dena Dixon, Board Secretary Thomas Van Wolfe, Trustee Jorden Dial, and Trustee David Webb.

Edit to my 2 cents. I remember the case about the school bus driver sexually assaulting kids a large number of times before discovery.

Edited again to change my last few words. Agree with poster above I just said it wrong.
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It's a damn shame what people trying to play hot shot politics has done to the board. This lawsuit is a joke.
ChoppinDs40
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It'll be tossed out. Funny the other 2 board members (shocked they weren't named, not really) also signed those contracts.
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As soon as it was discovered, it was reported, he was put on leave, he was arrested, and then he committed suicide within a week.

All tied up in litigation currently with one of the parents wanting millions.
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