that whole exchange (still) a cluster**** from every direction.

If you enter 610 from Oak Forest, you have to immediately cut over 3 or 4 lanes just to stay on 610.

I don't mind it going outbound, because I get on 290 and get to completely miss 610.

No mention for the I-45 South entrance ramp under Dallas St? That's a firey death trap waiting to happen.

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610 West Loop northbound exit to 59S at the end of the day.

Actual exiting traffic by %:

Cars in the proper lane = 10%

Cheaters driving up one to two left lanes over and trying to cheat over at the last minute causing mayhem and brain aneurysms = 50%

Cheaters driving up the right 59N exit lane and trying to cheater over at the last minute causing mayhem and brain aneurysms = 40%

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daily chance of resulting accident: 95%

chance of minor fender-bender participants pulling to shoulder: 0%

Right turn lanes of inbound 59 frontage at either Weslayan or Buffalo Speedway. Westpark is too close and not synced so cars coming southbound on green light get stopped at Westpark, blocking the feeder. By the time they clear with a green on Westpark, 59 light is green again and cars are coming through again.

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Ciboag96 said:

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610 West Loop northbound exit to 59S at the end of the day.

Actual exiting traffic by %:

Cars in the proper lane = 10%

Cheaters driving up one to two left lanes over and trying to cheat over at the last minute causing mayhem and brain aneurysms = 50%

Cheaters driving up the right 59N exit lane and trying to cheater over at the last minute causing mayhem and brain aneurysms = 40%

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daily chance of resulting accident: 95%

chance of minor fender-bender participants pulling to shoulder: 0%

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Definitely a daily accident here. Not an exagerration or hyperbole.

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I love roundabouts, if done correctly. But drivers here are terrified of them for some reason and they almost never get designed properly. The worst one in Houston is here https://goo.gl/maps/Z9iYfBVPVbJ2

They took a 2-lane street, and decided to shove a circle in the middle of an intersection for some reason. It's the most awkward thing to drive around and I think that roundabouts like it are the reason they get a bad name in the US.

Edit: There's also another one just a bit further north on Benignus. They're both terrible.

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Those aren't roundabouts. They are rotaries / splitter islands, and have different goals and characteristics than a true roundabout.

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Could be worse....our highways could be designed by the clowns responsible for Lake Charles and Baton Rouge.

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Or DC

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This. No rights on red, anywhere. And 14th Street Bridge was always such a cluster. Entrance ramps & exit ramps on BOTH left and the right sides on BOTH sides of the river. And invariably some ******s trying to enter from right, cross 4 lanes, and immediately exit left & vice versa. All day long. So dumb.

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Those aren't roundabouts. They are rotaries / splitter islands, and have different goals and characteristics than a true roundabout.

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oh FFS who cares?

Reminds me of the schooner scene from Mallrats

"You dumb basterd, it's a rotary not a roundabout!"

Not sure if it's a good or bad thing that this is my most successful (# of pages) thread I've ever started on TexAgs

Not an intersection, but holy **** the reversible lane on West Alabama is apparently the most difficult thing in the world for people in this city to understand.

I also have a special amount of hatred in my heart for the layout of the 290-610 interchange since construction started.

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Not an intersection, but holy **** the reversible lane on West Alabama is apparently the most difficult thing in the world for people in this city to understand.

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I love to drive in that lane just to scare the sh*t out of the oncoming morons using it as a turning lane.

Only mentioned once, but I didn't know there was anything worse than the Montrose/Main not-a-roundabout. I'm seriously curious if that's the only roundabout in the world where the traffic ENTERING the roundabout has the right-of-way over traffic in the roundabout?

Also, as discussed the fact that Westpark doesn't have an interchange to get on BW8 is ridiculous. Hardy Toll Road on to the BW8 doesn't either I don't believe, and it doesn't make any sense.

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That newish ramp at 610/I-10/290 where I-10 EB and I-10 WB traffic merge and then split off to 290 WB and 610. They need to have signs which are way more prominent telling drivers that the left lane is for 290, right two lanes are for 610. Every damn day I see someone that has to cut over at the last second because their dumbass didn't realize it until the lanes split.

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I'm trying to reserve judgement on this until they open everything, but it is a mess right now. Current pet peeves:

1. The ramps mentioned above.

2. The 290 to 610 interchange where you have to be in the right lane to go left and the left lane to go right. It is completely counter-intuitive.

3. The ramps from I-10 to 290 that merge into one lane to get on 290. They leave traffic backed up down 610, which is why I thought they were re-doing the ramps to begin with.

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Not sure if it's a good or bad thing that this is my most successful (# of pages) thread I've ever started on TexAgs

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This could go 10 pages.

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Southbound on Grand Parkway, just south of I-10. You have two lanes on GP, with the flyover from I-10 and an entrance ramp from the SB feeder all converging at the same point. The entrance ramp needs to get over immediately to enter the main SB lanes, all while dealing with SB traffic already in the main lanes. Then if you are one of those wanting to exit the main lanes, that exit is literally the entrance ramp lane. There are always near misses at this CF.

Just saw another wreck at i10 feeder turning south on dairy Ashford. Must be 10 a day from the turn only - turn only - turn straight configuration.

Seattle rolls out the most inclusive intersection of all time.

Houston seethes with jealousy.

330 spur westbound is terrible. Westbound i10 split at 59 before downtown is also terrible

Not in Houston but one of the dumbest ones I've ever seen is in Lafayette. I'm sure y'all will appreciate the stupidity… Johnson Street and Camilia Blvd. they separate the left turn lanes from the lanes going straight through by splitting the oncoming lanes and the turn lane from the right cross street. They only do this from one direction. The other three sides are normal.

Coming to you over the next 2 decades:

Can someone seriously tell me why they make the Fly overs so amazingly high? Each level is like 50 ft clearance, putting the highest at like 200 ft above grade. EX: 99 and I-10 in Katy.

Max clearance needed can't be height then like 25 ft.

Not Tine, but assuming it's coming at some point - who decided that random crossing over of lanes in a street or intersection is something good?

Case in point - Pecan Lane in Pflugerville has this crap, and it is about the dumbest thing ever. I think one of the new overpasses in CS has it as well (60, maybe? over 2818). It's dumb. It causes problems because you, out of nowhere, have to drive on the wrong side of the road like some damned limey and it serves no purpose.

All red lights removed in Aruba, whole place has nothing but roundabouts. They move a million tourists a year around quicker with less accident's.

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Not Tine, but assuming it's coming at some point - who decided that random crossing over of lanes in a street or intersection is something good?

Case in point - Pecan Lane in Pflugerville has this crap, and it is about the dumbest thing ever. I think one of the new overpasses in CS has it as well (60, maybe? over 2818). It's dumb. It causes problems because you, out of nowhere, have to drive on the wrong side of the road like some damned limey and it serves no purpose.

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Yeah, that nonsense.

I know! Let's just randomly make everybody cross to the other side of the road for no apparent reason, because it's not like driver's aren't crappy enough these days without random stupid sht like this!

Brilliant!

schmellba99 said:

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Yeah, that nonsense.

I know! Let's just randomly make everybody cross to the other side of the road for no apparent reason, because it's not like driver's aren't crappy enough these days without random stupid sht like this!

Brilliant!

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the worst part is no right on red anywhere in that design. You just sit there, not moving and no one is coming in either direction.

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schmellba99 said:

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Yeah, that nonsense.

I know! Let's just randomly make everybody cross to the other side of the road for no apparent reason, because it's not like driver's aren't crappy enough these days without random stupid sht like this!

Brilliant!

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the worst part is no right on red anywhere in that design. You just sit there, not moving and no one is coming in either direction.

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What are you talking about? You can see all 4 directions have dedicated right turn lanes at the beginning of the video. You make the right turn before being diverted to the opposite side. If you turn right at the light, after diverting, then you are now turning right into the wrong way, which is true at any highway intersection after going under/over the highway.

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agracer said:

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schmellba99 said:

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Yeah, that nonsense.

I know! Let's just randomly make everybody cross to the other side of the road for no apparent reason, because it's not like driver's aren't crappy enough these days without random stupid sht like this!

Brilliant!

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the worst part is no right on red anywhere in that design. You just sit there, not moving and no one is coming in either direction.

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What are you talking about? You can see all 4 directions have dedicated right turn lanes at the beginning of the video. You make the right turn before being diverted to the opposite side. If you turn right at the light, after diverting, then you are now turning right into the wrong way, which is true at any highway intersection after going under/over the highway.

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Sorry, I was not talking about the video. But I did just watch it and they don't say or show anything about right on reds. If you look, the stop lines, crosswalks and lights are set up so you can't see anything when exiting the freeway and trying to turn right (20-second mark). You have to creep pretty far forward to see and you're looking left and back over your shoulder, not just left.

We have those here in KC at a lot of freeway exists and the signs will not allow right on red. In fact it's well known in a few spots that the local police will watch for an issue tickets for right on red drivers.

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cajunaggie08 said:

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agracer said:

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schmellba99 said:

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Yeah, that nonsense.

I know! Let's just randomly make everybody cross to the other side of the road for no apparent reason, because it's not like driver's aren't crappy enough these days without random stupid sht like this!

Brilliant!

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the worst part is no right on red anywhere in that design. You just sit there, not moving and no one is coming in either direction.

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What are you talking about? You can see all 4 directions have dedicated right turn lanes at the beginning of the video. You make the right turn before being diverted to the opposite side. If you turn right at the light, after diverting, then you are now turning right into the wrong way, which is true at any highway intersection after going under/over the highway.

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Sorry, I was not talking about the video. But I did just watch it and they don't say or show anything about right on reds. If you look, the stop lines, crosswalks and lights are set up so you can't see anything when exiting the freeway and trying to turn right (20-second mark). You have to creep pretty far forward to see and you're looking left and back over your shoulder, not just left.

We have those here in KC at a lot of freeway exists and the signs will not allow right on red. In fact it's well known in a few spots that the local police will watch for an issue tickets for right on red drivers.

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Ok, I see what you're saying. At least in the example shown it does appear that for traffic exiting the freeway they do have a stop light for going right and they cannot just automatically go right on red. Ive seen some in real life that just give those going right a dedicated turn that lets them skip the intersection and just merge with traffic after they have completed their switchback.