I'd be willing to bet those employees didn't live off 11th street. Or own businesses on 11th
11th Street Bike Lanes Update
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One of the main city employees pushing it lives/lived between 11th and 12th and Yale and Shepherd.
He used that as a reason residents supported it.
He resigned when Whitmire came in.
The fact Turner paused the process tells you how much opposition there was to this but it was always going to get pushed through.
And the biggest F U of all was doing pour in place curbs instead of pre-cast. I asked and they said it was the same amount but they knew undoing poured in place would be much more costly than pulling up pre-cast.
That's when I really knew what a massive ram rod it was.
He used that as a reason residents supported it.
He resigned when Whitmire came in.
The fact Turner paused the process tells you how much opposition there was to this but it was always going to get pushed through.
And the biggest F U of all was doing pour in place curbs instead of pre-cast. I asked and they said it was the same amount but they knew undoing poured in place would be much more costly than pulling up pre-cast.
That's when I really knew what a massive ram rod it was.
It was explicitly designed that way for that reason.Quote:
And the biggest F U of all was doing pour in place curbs instead of pre-cast. I asked and they said it was the same amount but they knew undoing poured in place would be much more costly than pulling up pre-cast.
"well, we can't undo it because just look at what it will cost!!!"Ryan the Temp said:It was explicitly designed that way for that reason.Quote:
And the biggest F U of all was doing pour in place curbs instead of pre-cast. I asked and they said it was the same amount but they knew undoing poured in place would be much more costly than pulling up pre-cast.
I was told and I believe in all of the presentations they showed they would be using pre-cast.
I remember thinking it could be easily undone.
Then when I saw the curb pouring machine I knew we were fooked for a good while.
That's when I asked the cost different in the two and they said it was the same and decided to go this route instead.
They knew it wasn't a popular decision and cared more about their legacy than what the people living in the area wanted.
I remember thinking it could be easily undone.
Then when I saw the curb pouring machine I knew we were fooked for a good while.
That's when I asked the cost different in the two and they said it was the same and decided to go this route instead.
They knew it wasn't a popular decision and cared more about their legacy than what the people living in the area wanted.
I'm kind of ambivalent on the bike lane component but the new design is much safer. My kids cross 11th multiple times a day so I'm all for the protected crosswalks and reduced number of lanes.
Absolutely! Everyone that lives near Nicholson or that is on the trail has been for that for years. I walk the trail almost everyday and been damn near run over 5x.wessimo said:
I'm kind of ambivalent on the bike lane component but the new design is much safer. My kids cross 11th multiple times a day so I'm all for the protected crosswalks and reduced number of lanes.
There's not a person in the neighborhood that doesn't like what they've done at Nicholson and 11th.
It's awesome and extremely necessary.
That point was also made many times to the City that were okay with what we did there but we didn't need the bike lanes.
In fact, my argument to the City centered around being fine with lane reductions between Shepherd and Yale but no center lane and not opening up additional lanes at Yale and Shepherd to get more traffic through the lights was foolish.
Instead, we got bike lanes that nobody uses…
It's awesome and extremely necessary.
That point was also made many times to the City that were okay with what we did there but we didn't need the bike lanes.
In fact, my argument to the City centered around being fine with lane reductions between Shepherd and Yale but no center lane and not opening up additional lanes at Yale and Shepherd to get more traffic through the lights was foolish.
Instead, we got bike lanes that nobody uses…
My favorite part of it is being behind Manueala from Guatemala that thinks the stop for pedestrian signs are some sort of fancy Estadios Unidos stop signs and ****ing stops at every *********one of them, causing major traffic conflagrations.
Has happened to me twice recently.
Has happened to me twice recently.
They should have designed it the same way Shepherd/Durham was designed. Granted, I still never see bicyclists on Shepherd/Durham, but the design is excellent, safe, and easy to maintain.
I feel like there isn't really space for that, though? But I do agree that design is better. The design of 11th makes bike lanes virtually impossible to maintain even if the city wanted to or tried, which they won't.Ryan the Temp said:
They should have designed it the same way Shepherd/Durham was designed. Granted, I still never see bicyclists on Shepherd/Durham, but the design is excellent, safe, and easy to maintain.
My opinion, should have been one lane each way with a turn lane the length of that stretch vs. the bike lanes.
Signed someone who doesn't live there but up until this week drove 11th almost daily.
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