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Anyone's Memorial Townhouse Having Some Issues Lately?

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Sea Speed
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6:35p, 8/1/24
AG
This looks fun.

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BQ_90
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In reply to Sea Speed • 6:38p, 8/1/24
AG
maybe that low bid on fake grass green space wasn't the smartest move
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Kenneth_2003
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6:40p, 8/1/24
AG
Saw this over the weekend. Underground parking structure?
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BSD
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6:40p, 8/1/24
AG
Didn't all those flood during Harvey, too?
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In reply to Kenneth_2003 • 6:43p, 8/1/24
AG
The comments say underground retention
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In reply to BSD • 7:05p, 8/1/24
AG
BSD said:
Didn't all those flood during Harvey, too?
There are some listed on HAR.com. Looks they were built after Harvey.
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BSD
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In reply to Marauder Blue 6 • 7:22p, 8/1/24
AG
Ah. That area flooded I think. Maybe that's what I was thinking of.
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In reply to Sea Speed • 7:31p, 8/1/24
Looks like it... wonder what style?
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7:31p, 8/1/24
Time for a community pool?
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SnowboardAg
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8:15p, 8/1/24
AG
Developer better have a good attorney, along with the engineer.
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YellAg2004
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In reply to Marauder Blue 6 • 8:37p, 8/1/24
AG
Marauder Blue 6 said:
BSD said:
Didn't all those flood during Harvey, too?
There are some listed on HAR.com. Looks they were built after Harvey.
Some were built pre-Harvey and I'm fairly certain some of them flooded. I think the water came about half way into the development towards Memorial.

If the clowns that build residential construction these days were entrusted to build an underground cistern, it's no wonder it failed.
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Pahdz
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In reply to YellAg2004 • 8:52p, 8/1/24
The home builders didn't build a cistern, the sitework contractor installed one of many types of underground detention products on the market. Hard to tell from any of the pictures I've seen but this could be corrugated metal or HDPE pipe, polyethylene or polypropylene chambers, precast concrete chambers or plastic assembled crate style cubes.
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YellAg2004
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In reply to Pahdz • 10:00p, 8/1/24
AG
I'd be inclined to agree with you that it was a pre-made/formed/cast installation, but a pic I saw from a different angle made it look like it was a CIP structure, hence my comment. Would love to know more of the details from an engineering/construction perspective.
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Pahdz
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In reply to YellAg2004 • 10:05p, 8/1/24
Yeah I saw those pieces you're talking about and it certainly looks like that could be but man, no sort of support midspan? Wow
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10:21p, 8/1/24
AG
Here's the pic I was referring to from Nextdoor.
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In reply to YellAg2004 • 10:34p, 8/1/24
I saw those too... definitely looks sketch.
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10:53p, 8/1/24
AG
Pretty sure that left to right support in the top photo is gonna go soon too.
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P.H. Dexippus
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12:02a, 8/2/24
AG
Time to raise the HOA fees!
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7:48a, 8/2/24
AG
are those those places behind Jonathans the Rub & Dish Society?
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7:49a, 8/2/24
AG
This is a Midway development. Doing the underground detention this way keep their green space and allowed for probably another dozen townhouses to be built on the site...tradeoffs.
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In reply to RustyBV • 8:34a, 8/2/24
RustyBV said:
This is a Midway development. Doing the underground detention this way keep their green space and allowed for probably another dozen townhouses to be built on the site...tradeoffs.

Which development is this? Is it Somerset Green?
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In reply to RustyBV • 8:40a, 8/2/24
AG
RustyBV said:
This is a Midway development. Doing the underground detention this way keep their green space and allowed for probably another dozen townhouses to be built on the site...tradeoffs.

Big Aggie owned company
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In reply to TarponChaser • 8:41a, 8/2/24
AG
Memorial Green
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In reply to jetch17 • 8:49a, 8/2/24
AG
jetch17 said:
are those those places behind Jonathans the Rub & Dish Society?


Yep.
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9:11a, 8/2/24
AG
Underground detention in Houston. What could go wrong? Especially when the area previously flooded. Why not do a normal retention pond and use the dirt to raise the other elevation?
Guessing they saved money doing it that way.
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Ryan the Temp
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In reply to Mas89 • 11:17a, 8/2/24
AG
Do it like this:

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In reply to P.H. Dexippus • 11:19a, 8/2/24
AG
P.H. Dexippus said:
Time to raise the HOA fees!
I hope they have an assessments provision in their insurance.
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11:36a, 8/2/24
It was a cast in place detention system. So my guess is a structural failure due to either insufficient design loads or not including all the water weight into the load calculations as it seems to have ~4' of fill on top of it. Who knows.

This is not a cheaper way to go system. Usually most expensive.
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agnerd
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11:45a, 8/2/24
AG
The clear span underground detention is only used when the land is VERY expensive. But it can minimize the area you need for detention.

RTT's image is much less risky, but takes more land to provide the same volume. If the engineer didn't account for the wet weight of the dirt, he's in trouble. In that area, though, I'm betting that something under the walls that support the beams eroded and brought everything down.

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12:44p, 8/2/24
AG
Why would you put that much soil on top of that span? I have built ones similar to RTT recently, but would expect to be able to see intermediate supports or a box culvert design for that long a span.
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In reply to Bondag • 1:28p, 8/2/24
AG
Complete WAG, but possibly to be able to get trees/grass/shrubs to grow on top of it without any issue?

It definitely seems like a long unsupported span for that much (wet) cover/backfill. The visible beam that is (barely) intact is clearly deflecting.
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In reply to Bondag • 1:33p, 8/2/24
Or if they wanted precast, use StormCapture or StormTrap?
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In reply to P.H. Dexippus • 1:35p, 8/2/24
AG
P.H. Dexippus said:
Time to raise the HOA fees!
The heck with that - here comes a special assessment.

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