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Sugar Land studying elevated gondola system

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The city of Sugar Land has entered into an agreement with a former Google business unit to study the feasibility of installing electric, on-demand elevated "cable cars" throughout the region.

Looks a lot like the Disney Skyliner system although I think you call for these and they move independently as opposed to a circle track.

Kinda futuristic but I'd be surprised if anything came from it. Might solve that "getting out of Smart Financial Centre" issue, though.

https://www.sugarlandtx.gov/2803/Autonomous-Elevated-Cable-Rail-System

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I bet a project like this should be good for 40-50% kick back rate. Project would at best get started, test part built then scrapped because some unforseen problem (that was obvious) is stopping at.
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Is there a chance the cable could bend?!
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Charlie Murphy said:


Exactly.

I was really hoping for a monorail.
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This would give Sugar Landistan a local option for their aerial finger banging vs. having to drive the 20 min. to downtown to the Aquarium.
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HDeathstar
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Houston looked at this when they were doing the train build.

I think it is a good concept, but like all public transportation, needs to be clean and safe.
What is interesting about this is:
- You can lift a bus size transport
- infrastructure (poles) take up minimum ground space and can cross over existing infrastructure (think roads and buildings). Don't have to put it in a dedicated lane, it can cross over highways at multiple spots.
- Also for stops, you just need a 5-10 car spot for the transport to drop down to a shopping mall and then straight back up and on its way. No off ramp needed, just lower and raise in the same spot.

Not sure if they will build it that way, but it has some benefits. Still comes with public transport issues. I think it would work well in certain areas.
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I actually don't mind the idea if they can find a suitable location and use case. I'm just not sure where they could install this and solve any real problems.
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Charlie Murphy said:

I actually don't mind the idea if they can find a suitable location and use case. I'm just not sure where they could install this and solve any real problems.
I imagine the best case would be connecting Sugar Land Town Square with Smart Financial and then UH-Sugar Land. You could connect Houston Methodist and First Colony Mall along the way. That's roughly a two-mile stretch.

I suppose you could link Constellation Field later. That's about five miles.

Wonder what the cost per mile to build is?

But as you say, a line like that wouldn't really solve anything.
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From the Q&A

Quote:

Will this be taxpayer supported?


No. We are partnering with the private sector and will pursue state and federal funding.

Where the fck do these tards think state & federal funding comes from?
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TarponChaser said:

From the Q&A

Quote:

Will this be taxpayer supported?


No. We are partnering with the private sector and will pursue state and federal funding.

Where the fck do these tards think state & federal funding comes from?
Sugar Land residents don't pay state or federal taxes! LOL
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Gondola?

More like Ghandola, amirite?
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Funded by TX "Dot"?
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Al Bula said:

Gondola?

More like Ghandola, amirite?
Perfect.
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SlackerAg said:

Funded by TX "Dot"?
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It's amazing what AI can do now.
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Laughable. Everyone in sugar land has cars, even the poors in their 400k houses. Public transpo is a gimmick. They could buy eveyone in town a(nother) tesla for less outlay than a cable car system.
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I'd just be bummed when there's no mountain to ski down when I got off.
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Gonna go straight from the cricket fields to the giant statue.
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EclipseAg said:

Charlie Murphy said:

I actually don't mind the idea if they can find a suitable location and use case. I'm just not sure where they could install this and solve any real problems.
I imagine the best case would be connecting Sugar Land Town Square with Smart Financial and then UH-Sugar Land. You could connect Houston Methodist and First Colony Mall along the way. That's roughly a two-mile stretch.

I suppose you could link Constellation Field later. That's about five miles.

Wonder what the cost per mile to build is?

But as you say, a line like that wouldn't really solve anything.
You could make the mall and town square area a hub and ease congestion around Smart Center/UH and along 6. In theory it's not a bad idea, but the reality is that by the time it got done it would be over budget and over schedule and usage would not come anywhere close to justifying the cost. Sounds like a perfect government project.

But if the Smart Centre area ever grows to match the once proposed plan, it would provide easy transportation to and from the town square area for dining and entertaining for those attending conventions.
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Problem with public transit in Houston is that we are still unable to move people from starting destination to end destination with out needing a car to complete atleast one part of the journey.

If you are still needing your car to drive to the gondola, or back from it, then what is the point?

Like the rail downtown, this will most likely become niche(access to NRG or limited to med center workers) and not really adoptable for most riders.
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Charlie Murphy said:

Problem with public transit in Houston is that we are still unable to move people from starting destination to end destination with out needing a car to complete atleast one part of the journey.

If you are still needing your car to drive to the gondola, or back from it, then what is the point?

Like the rail downtown, this will most likely become niche(access to NRG or limited to med center workers) and not really adoptable for most riders.
I could see it as an option for Smart Centre parking. Park at the mall which has about 12 points of egress vs parking at the venue which has 3 points of egress. I'd ride a gondola to and from an event to have a place to grab a drink before a show and avoid sitting in the parking lot for 40 minutes trying to leave a concert. But I don't know how many others would.
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Booma94 said:

Charlie Murphy said:

Problem with public transit in Houston is that we are still unable to move people from starting destination to end destination with out needing a car to complete atleast one part of the journey.

If you are still needing your car to drive to the gondola, or back from it, then what is the point?

Like the rail downtown, this will most likely become niche(access to NRG or limited to med center workers) and not really adoptable for most riders.
I could see it as an option for Smart Centre parking. Park at the mall which has about 12 points of egress vs parking at the venue which has 3 points of egress. I'd ride a gondola to and from an event to have a place to grab a drink before a show and avoid sitting in the parking lot for 40 minutes trying to leave a concert. But I don't know how many others would.
I would. I've parked at town square to grab dinner/drinks and taken an uber over and back for a concert. If I could get to and from smart financial center from where the dining and drinks are without having to pay for more parking or pay $20 for an uber that sounds like a win. I don't go to Smart Financial Center often so its not a huge deal that a public transit/gondola system does or doesn't exist, but if they built it I can see it being used the nights there are events going on. It certainly would drive up foot traffic to Town Center if it connected there and to the Space Cowboys stadium.
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My guess is, you've probably nailed the use case their study will find. Do you see that as being economic?
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Charlie Murphy said:

My guess is, you've probably nailed the use case their study will find. Do you see that as being economic?

Sounds like Springfield thinking there Marge.
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Gondola screams inequality. Not sure this gondola idea gonna pass DEI muster. You'll have privileged kids on the gondola spitting on poor people walking below. Best to keep all citizens at ground level.
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I mean... the only problem is getting to those places without going through a neighborhood. Guess you could put it in the ditches...
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