CDUB98 said:

---

Quote:

---

What ever happened to 18 wheelers not being able to drive in the left lane?

---

Pretty much zero traffic enforcement now due to short staffing. Have you not noticed the paper plated Altimas running wild?

---

Short staffing? I think you mean the George Floyd Effect trying to minimize police encounters for low level crime.

CDUB98 said:

---

Quote:

---

What ever happened to 18 wheelers not being able to drive in the left lane?

---

Pretty much zero traffic enforcement now due to short staffing. Have you not noticed the paper plated Altimas running wild?

---

I see plenty of them writing registration tickets beneath underpasses.

Quote:

---

Taylor Street exit ramp: All traffic will continue along the mainlanes and take the Studemont Street exit ramp and U-turn at the intersection. Traffic will then continue on the eastbound frontage road to access Taylor St.

---

Was anyone else confused by this? There isn't an exit for Studemont on I-10 West. Are they going to make a new exit or are they talking about using the Heights/Yale St exit?

It's just proof the government is a racket. The project is a bunch of bull**** that will cost drivers thousands of times more time wise than what it will save by not flooding or the bridge being struck.

schmellba99 said:

---

TX04Aggie said:

---

Yeah this is gonna suck. Wait till they start i-45 redux on top of that. But the lane shifts already back up west bound travellers down the pierce elevated. My office over looks it and it is a cluster already as of last week.

---

We can't let San Mexico outdo us with having every single road under construction there and not here. Get with the program!

---

/laughcry

Ryan the Temp said:

---

So TxDOT is going to make it completely effed for the next FOUR YEARS.

https://www.khou.com/article/traffic/long-term-closure-i-10-katy-freeway-elevate-road-prevent-flooding/285-2d07576d-b94a-4c3d-abcd-102be92225b9

---

This stinks! Not good for business! Down at least 10% everyday this week! Gonna be a long 4 years!

Sorry man. People will figure it out for CFA eventually.

Holy hell...

This is going to make life suck for years...

Because the Pierce Elevated is a **** storm.

At least it's Webber and not WB.

12th Man Ag said:

---

Ryan the Temp said:

---

So TxDOT is going to make it completely effed for the next FOUR YEARS.

https://www.khou.com/article/traffic/long-term-closure-i-10-katy-freeway-elevate-road-prevent-flooding/285-2d07576d-b94a-4c3d-abcd-102be92225b9

---

This stinks! Not good for business! Down at least 10% everyday this week! Gonna be a long 4 years!

---

I'll try to come by more. It's a slight detour when going North but still haven't figured out the best way West this week.

Bondag said:

---

12th Man Ag said:

---

Ryan the Temp said:

---

So TxDOT is going to make it completely effed for the next FOUR YEARS.

https://www.khou.com/article/traffic/long-term-closure-i-10-katy-freeway-elevate-road-prevent-flooding/285-2d07576d-b94a-4c3d-abcd-102be92225b9

---

This stinks! Not good for business! Down at least 10% everyday this week! Gonna be a long 4 years!

---

I'll try to come by more. It's a slight detour when going North but still haven't figured out the best way West this week.

---

Thank you!

Hopefully this doesn't turn into the Corpus Christi bridge project!

Didn't know this was happening when leaving downtown last Thursday. The I-45 NB exit to I-10W was two lanes and is down to one. It backed 45 down the Pierce Elevated and which was then starting to backup 45/288. It was only 3pm when I left. I can't imagine this during peak rush.

I think alternate maybe W. Dallas, Allan Parkway, or Memorial to Studemont or Heights to get onto I-10 west. But once everyone figures that our all those streets will be more of a cluster.

GCRanger said:

---

Didn't know this was happening when leaving downtown last Thursday. The I-45 NB exit to I-10W was two lanes and is down to one. It backed 45 down the Pierce Elevated and which was then starting to backup 45/288. It was only 3pm when I left. I can't imagine this during peak rush.

I think alternate maybe W. Dallas, Allan Parkway, or Memorial to Studemont or Heights to get onto I-10 west. But once everyone figures that our all those streets will be more of a cluster.

---

This was my nightmare all of last week. I'm hosed going around either way on the loop too.

https://www.txdot.gov/projects/hearings-meetings/houston/2023/i10-011624.html



Schematic drawing
https://ftp.txdot.gov/pub/txdot/get-involved/hou/i-10-heights-white-oak-bayou/011624-schematic.pdf

Holy hell it's going to be an enormous CF for the foreseeable future. I was trying to mentally prepare myself for the ****show I-10 will be when the I-45 reroute begins but this construction just threw that out the window. I think it's just a ploy to build to damn METRO BRT lines quickly before METRO rapid transit is totally exposed as a total waste of taxpayer money.

CheeseSndwch said:

---

Quote:

---

Taylor Street exit ramp: All traffic will continue along the mainlanes and take the Studemont Street exit ramp and U-turn at the intersection. Traffic will then continue on the eastbound frontage road to access Taylor St.

---

Was anyone else confused by this? There isn't an exit for Studemont on I-10 West. Are they going to make a new exit or are they talking about using the Heights/Yale St exit?

---

I was going through that area this past weekend and it was a mess. They closed Studemont under I-10, heading south, the traffic diverted West and everyone had to take U-turn's at Yale. We were backed up a good 6-7 light cycles.

I can't wait for a decade of this.

tk for tu juan said:

---

https://www.txdot.gov/projects/hearings-meetings/houston/2023/i10-011624.html



Schematic drawing
https://ftp.txdot.gov/pub/txdot/get-involved/hou/i-10-heights-white-oak-bayou/011624-schematic.pdf

---

I want to see the schematics of the contractors and politicians new mansions they are building. Way more interesting and a better example of tax paying dollars at work.

I was almost 45 minutes getting from.my office to the Taylor exit tonight.

CoachRTM said:

---

CheeseSndwch said:

---

Quote:

---

Taylor Street exit ramp: All traffic will continue along the mainlanes and take the Studemont Street exit ramp and U-turn at the intersection. Traffic will then continue on the eastbound frontage road to access Taylor St.

---

Was anyone else confused by this? There isn't an exit for Studemont on I-10 West. Are they going to make a new exit or are they talking about using the Heights/Yale St exit?

---

I was going through that area this past weekend and it was a mess. They closed Studemont under I-10, heading south, the traffic diverted West and everyone had to take U-turn's at Yale. We were backed up a good 6-7 light cycles.

I can't wait for a decade of this.

---

That appeared to be just a weekend closure for a crane.

It's added 15 minutes to my already 50 minute commute....minimum.

CDUB98 said:

---

It's added 15 minutes to my already 50 minute commute....minimum.

---

Luckily I have a few ways around it, but when they take down the Houston Ave bridge, that is going to suck

aggiedent said:

---

Mas89 said:

---

Aggie71013 said:

---

Is the flooding at this location tied to reservoirs in the Katy Prairie?

---

In part. Katy drains thru Houston in Buffalo Bayou. Jersey Village area up to almost Cypress drains thru Houston thru White Oak Bayou. White Oak Bayou joins Buffalo Bayou at UH Downtown and goes to the ship channel ( Buffalo Bayou )
Cypress area to Lake Houston.
So a huge area drains thru downtown Houston. Think of the Katy reservoirs as retention ponds.

---

And it goes beyond just any existing or potential reservoirs. The Katy Prairie was the last great sponge that absorbed rain water. Every acre of land paved over is one less acre absorbing that rain, and instead, it flows right down the I-10/ bayou corridor effecting everything including downtown.

Some key points we need to remember. The idea of preserving large portions of the Prairie and constructing new reservoirs dates back about 70 years. Numerous studies concluded it was needed. Furthermore, the existing dams are considered by the Corp of Engineers , "high risk" for failure owing to 1) structural issues and 2) the increasing runoff from upstream Prairie areas as development progresses.

And so we plod along with our head in the sand, never doing what was "smart" and needed. We seem to thrive on accepting disaster and then jury rigging a few fixes than mitigate it far less than had we done the right thing to begin with.

---

Point of contention - high risk (Class C) classification is given when a dam failure could result in significant loss of life or significant damage (economic, environmental or infrastructure) in the event of failure or gross mis-operation.

aggiedent said:

---

cajunaggie08 said:

---

aggiedent said:

---

Mas89 said:

---

Aggie71013 said:

---

Is the flooding at this location tied to reservoirs in the Katy Prairie?

---

In part. Katy drains thru Houston in Buffalo Bayou. Jersey Village area up to almost Cypress drains thru Houston thru White Oak Bayou. White Oak Bayou joins Buffalo Bayou at UH Downtown and goes to the ship channel ( Buffalo Bayou )
Cypress area to Lake Houston.
So a huge area drains thru downtown Houston. Think of the Katy reservoirs as retention ponds.

---

And it goes beyond just any existing or potential reservoirs. The Katy Prairie was the last great sponge that absorbed rain water. Every acre of land paved over is one less acre absorbing that rain, and instead, it flows right down the I-10/ bayou corridor effecting everything including downtown.

Some key points we need to remember. The idea of preserving large portions of the Prairie and constructing new reservoirs dates back about 70 years. Numerous studies concluded it was needed. Furthermore, the existing dams are considered by the Corp of Engineers , "high risk" for failure owing to 1) structural issues and 2) the increasing runoff from upstream Prairie areas as development progresses.

And so we plod along with our head in the sand, never doing what was "smart" and needed. We seem to thrive on accepting disaster and then jury rigging a few fixes than mitigate it far less than had we done the right thing to begin with.

---

Unfortunately the prairie isn't some wild land that "we" can just say preserve. All the land is owned by someone. Now the government could have stepped up and bought the land for the purpose of either keeping it a prairie or building another reservoir. I don't know how well that would go over in the last 50 years to have the state or federal government say we're going to eminent domain your land so the city far from you doesn't flood as often. Local houston leaders should have been petitioning the state or fed to get this going decades ago but I fear we've passed the point of no return.

---

That's it exactly. When the engineers and scientists first came to the realization of how important the area was 70ish years ago and how needed a second series of dams were, there were very few owners of the land and the county and state owned a good portion of it. It was sort of unofficially on the books as a future project. Had they acted back then, it would have been simple. Even 20 years ago it could have been feasible to acquire enough land.

Sadly, the time has come and gone. The county has no will to even try now.

---

If only it were as easy as being able to see 100 years into the future so you can plan the work needed for then, today.

I'm not defending any government agency because they are all pretty worthless in my opinion, but it's impossible to predict what will happen a century from now and then go out and get the funding to build the infrastructure projects to address that prediction.

It's a given that any infrastructure is, at best, 20 years behind where it should be. Especially in Texas where the land is almost exclusively privately owned. Throw in the incompetence of government, volatile costs and the general stubbornness (understood) of people not wanting to give their land up and you find yourself in a quandry where any major infrastructure project is decades too late already.

Ferris Wheel Allstar said:

---

the entire effing road system in the city is a **** show right now.I-10w has effed 610, 45 and 59. I10e had the asphalt stripped in December and is still jacked up. The asphalt poured is uneven and not finished. What ever happened to 18 wheelers not being able to drive in the left lane?

---

schmendeler said:

---

Maybe if the state government wasn't a right-wing grievance machine the state could look forward for once.

---

Yeah...because the other side always does so much better.

Ferris Wheel Allstar said:

---

At least it's Webber and not WB.

---

I used to work for Webber.

They are all the same man, all the same.

schmellba99 said:

---

Ferris Wheel Allstar said:

---

At least it's Webber and not WB.

---

I used to work for Webber.

They are all the same man, all the same.

---

water works, agreed, road construction, disagree.