Corpus Water / Desalination Plant Crisis

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I'm just now getting caught up on this. Can someone whose been around here longer shed some light on this?

We've been under Stage 3 water restrictions since December with seemingly no end in sight. Considering the number and scale of O&G companies there are, are they not participating in finding a solution or helping to fund it? It seems like that would be in their best interests. Plus, I just read that these companies are now dipping into residential water supply to stay running.

This all sounds pretty catastrophic, frankly.
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Desal plants should have been built many years ago IMO . Terrible planning on the Corpus politicians part. Not counting the Mary Rhodes pipeline from Texana, we have two lakes on two rivers whose headwaters are on the edge of the Chihuahuan desert. Most of the time those rivers are dry by the time any water gets down closer to the lakes. Takes a helluva rain to get meaningful amounts of water to those reservoirs.

I'm no expert on desal plants, but I think they use natural gas … Corpus has no shortage of natural gas. As far as the refineries helping out, I don't know why they wouldn't help…I agree with you there. Maybe they have tried, but the under the table money wasn't enough.

The refineries are expanding, homes (many with pools) being built all over the Coastal Bend….something needs to be done quickly. If the started building one today, we will be out of water before it would be producing. Better hope and pray for a major rain event in the Frio/Nueces River watersheds soon.
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It seems like most of the push against it is the potential environmental damage it could cause to the bays. I have zero clue of the likelihood of that happening, but it seems like a legitimate concern.

The other con is the cost but that's where I'm confused as to why no public-private partnership has been mentioned.
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I was unaware of this crisis! Meeting with builders now in Rockport, and see that the water supply systems are interconnected. How worried should I be about having water at my new house in Rockport?
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busdriver88 said:

I was unaware of this crisis! Meeting with builders now in Rockport, and see that the water supply systems are interconnected. How worried should I be about having water at my new house in Rockport?


That's my concern living here in Rockport. We are part of Corpus's water supply so we are definitely impacted. It looks like this part of the Coastal Bend is all on CRP's water supply system back inland to Beeville and Kingsville.

The city has said that by Dec 2026 (if nothing improves - from massive rain at this point) then they have to cut local O&G industry's water supply by 25%. So, we are at least talking significant economic impact which goes back to my question on why local industry is not part of the solution. Maybe their switching costs to up and move aren't' that high if they lose access to water, but I can't imagine that's the case.

50% of all US oil exports come out of the port in Corpus so this seems like even Federal assistance needs to be in play here. I'm completely baffled I haven't heard about this before and how nothing has been done.
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There has always been droughts in S. Texas. The current one is especially bad, but water has always been precious to this area. Lived here for 71 years…the climate has always been a lot more dry than wet. The big change over the years is the numbers of users that have moved into the area. That is why I point my finger at the politicians…

There is another thread on this in the Outdoors forum where environmental issues are discussed. But the facts regarding the climate and average rainfall isn't going to change, just the number of users…I really don't think they have a choice as to what has to happen to provide water for the area.
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Same problem as everything in Corpus for the last 100 years. The right people didn't get greased, or more likely, couldn't get paid anymore going forward so don't support it. Lol at any of these entrenched criminals giving a **** about the ecosystem and Baffin fishing. If you know anything about Corpus, this is straight out of the playbook just with more eyes now because of the scale of the problem 18 months from now. Let's see what the real cost is to the local economy when Valero, Exxon, flint hills and others massively scale back operations and transfer any employees making over $75k.
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Thanks. Read through that thread.
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Yeah, corpus city council seems to have f'ed the area with this vote.
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The Harbor Island desalination plant is permitted and still a go, I believe.

The City of CC leadership is just flat out wrong on this. They let that BSC Isabel Arriza disrupt the meeting and ultimately get her way. Her real motive is to shut down all industry, run everyone out of town, and give the land back to the Indians. Google her and read her websites. She has one minion on the City Council: Sylvia Campos. She was arrested at the meeting, but she got her way sadly.

It is so bizarre, watching this play out.
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The Chicken Ranch said:

The Harbor Island desalination plant is permitted and still a go, I believe.

The City of CC leadership is just flat out wrong on this. They let that BSC Isabel Arriza disrupt the meeting and ultimately get her way. Her real motive is to shut down all industry, run everyone out of town, and give the land back to the Indians. Google her and read her websites. She has one minion on the City Council: Sylvia Campos. She was arrested at the meeting, but she got her way sadly.

It is so bizarre, watching this play out.

Well, it seems like Corpus will have to opt into this one now. No idea what this means for Rockport where I am.

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And if Corpus Christi ever wants in, there's already an open door.

A special clause in the lease gives the city a discount 10 cents per thousand gallons compared to any other buyer. In return, the port will credit that back to the Nueces River Authority.

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Who knows? I never could tell if the inner harbor project was a companion or competitor project to the one on Harbor Island. Both are needed, in reality.
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The Chicken Ranch said:

The Harbor Island desalination plant is permitted and still a go, I believe.

The City of CC leadership is just flat out wrong on this. They let that BSC Isabel Arriza disrupt the meeting and ultimately get her way. Her real motive is to shut down all industry, run everyone out of town, and give the land back to the Indians. Google her and read her websites. She has one minion on the City Council: Sylvia Campos. She was arrested at the meeting, but she got her way sadly.

It is so bizarre, watching this play out.

Wasn't she the most vocal one killing the petcoke electric plant?
Being in TexAgs jail changes a man……..no, not really
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I don't know.?.?. I'm sure she has been part of the Bay Area Citizens Against Anything and Everything since it's inception.
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FYI - the city council brought this back up for vote yesterday and passed it.

Reality is a ***** when you dont have a backup plan. Sounds like the state leaned on them as well.

Thank god.
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