Anybody care to make some assumptions before tomorrow?

One thing i've heard is that Midway will for sure be 5A so that may boot out A&M conol and Bryan and make the district all about 30 minutes of driving which would be nice for everybody. Might take KHS moving up or something like that. Feel bad for A&M and Bryan if they get sent to Houston area though.

If Salado can come back to 2A that will be good for them.

Midway has been rumored to be moving up to 5A in every realignment since the 80s.

I'm pretty sure that the Midway administration hires a PI to compile compromising pictures of the UIL board members in order to remain 4A.

They will be moving up from what I understand.

Consol and Bryan are moving to a Katy district...or so it is thought.

Hearing Temple will stay 5A for now. If THS goes 4A, get ready for some long road trips unless they get assigned to the Austin district.

Bryan has been in the Conroe/North 45 district off and on over the years. Wouldnt surprise me to see them there again, with Consol.

EMY,

nah, midway just gets them on loan from Highland Park!

http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/high-schools/headlines/20120202-see-the-new-uil-district-alignments-for-all-classes-for-2012-2014.ece

West is FINALLY back with the Waco schools. We will struggle, but I love it.

West
LaVega
Connally
Robinson
Lorena
China Spring

8-5A

BELTON HS
COPPERASCOVE HS
KILLEEN ELLISON HS
KILLEEN HARKER HEIGHTS HS
KILLEEN HS
KILLEEN SHOEMAKER HS
TEMPLE HS
WACO MIDWAY HS

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It's great that 8-5A is FINALLY what it should be...the 4 Killeen schools + Belton + Temple + Cove + one of the Waco schools...all is right in the world.

Now, Go Roos!!

glad to see that. the only trip over 30 minutes will be cove to midway and it's still not that bad.

cove, belton, midway, and a re-surging temple will make for some good fridays in the fall.

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Pablo, Temple isn't even close to being 4A anymore, or so I am told by our coaching staff.

FWIW.

Rogers gets screwed. How can San Antonio area and Central Texas area be the same district.

District 14
Blanco
Jarrell
Johnson City
Lexington
Rogers
Schulenburg
Universal City Randolph

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Rogers gets screwed. How can San Antonio area and Central Texas area be the same district.

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My alma mater (Wall High School out of San Angelo) got sent to a district with Brownwood area schools.... and Ingram Tom Moore and Comfort.

WTcrap is that?

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How can San Antonio area and Central Texas area be the same district.

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I'll tell to how. It's the goofball division system they have for 2A football based on enrollment. It's why Rogers and Academy are in different districts despite being 10 miles apart. It's dumb.

janag, you could be right. Will check on that.

Edit: Cutoff was 2090. I had heard Temple HS's snapshot was about 2100.

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So did I see Salado dropped back down to 2A but they aren't putting them with Rogers and Jarrell?

Alamo, read my post about the quirky 2A alignment rules.

Salado was 5 students below the 3A cutoff. Cameron was also very close.

Confirmed: Temple High 2011 snapshot was 2214. 5A Cutoff is 2090.

So about 124 above the cutoff. That's a pretty good cushion. Hopefully they'll stay 5A. Worth noting is the 2009 Temple High snap shot was low - around 2050. They really barely did make it to 5A then, but maybe enrollment is growing!

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I'll tell to how. It's the goofball division system they have for 2A football based on enrollment. It's why Rogers and Academy are in different districts despite being 10 miles apart. It's dumb.

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That's what I was going to say....causes a lot of problems....especially for schools where there aren't a lot of other schools around them.

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BTW, West will be 2A eventually. Dropping too many kids to Reicher and one of their feeder schools (Gholson) is building a high school (previously only through 8th grade). Sad, but we can probably compete better in 2A....we just aren't there yet.

Terrible district for tight budget. Talking about Rogers. Imagine how much school those middle school and JV kids will have to miss to travel so far. AND how unfocused and tired they will be in school on Fridays.

Horrible.

3G, it's a product of the UIL's extremely STUPID idea to divide 2A into 2 divisions.

Those central Texas 2A districts are horrible. Academy, Rogers, Salado, and even Troy should be together

It's statewide, spank

It is also partly due to a start at the borders of the state and work in policy I have been told. But we make more sense with Moody, Crawford than San Antonio Schools.

the border schools are always a problem. a few years back we were were in 2-2A w/ all schools 1 hour from san angelo for several years. then one school dropped down to 1A and screwed up the whole district. Ozona, Sonora, and Big Lake ended up being sent down to Marfa, Alpine, and Anthony. Anthony. On the other side of El Paso! That's an 8 hour drive, for a district game. Which means you're going there at least 5 times in 2 years between football, baseball, and basketball.

Border schools need to just bump up or down so it doesn't make the rest of the world miserable.

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It is also partly due to a start at the borders of the state and work in policy I have been told. But we make more sense with Moody, Crawford than San Antonio Schools.

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What they do is for each class, they put pins on a giant map of Texas where each school is. Then they literally use rubber bands to make the districts. They try to do it based on geography, but as you can tell, it doesn't always work. Let me see if I can find the story i saw on it.

Here's one from two years ago:

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/sports/UIL-Reveals-Biennial-Realignment-83265062.html

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In the age of the Bowl Championship Series, one might assume a complicated computer program is used to help fairly realign UIL districts every two years -- but that is far from how things are done.

The UIL uses maps, pushpins and rubber bands, to try to align districts in a way that offers minimal travel. After submitting their enrollment in October, the UIL begins to plot the schools, by population and not name, on a map. The rubber band is then placed around pushpins to draw the geographic boundary of the district.

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No way Cameron should be 2A. Dividing it up is ridiculous.

They need to do away with this realignment and put schools like Cameron back in 3A where they belong.

Cameron is actually not even the largest enrollment school in their new district......I will agree though that Rogers, Lexington, etc. being in a district with schools from San Antonio or the hill country is just plain ridiculous.....I still think the way they split 1A and 2A is a pre-curser to having a Division 6A.

And the above poster is correct about the process, where they stick push pins in a big map and stretch rubber bands around them to create the districts. One thing in addition to that is my own personal belief that they start with the 5A classification and work their way down AND when they start each member of the UIL staff brings in a big bottle of their favorite whiskey, tequila, gin, bourbon, vodka, etc and by the time they get down to the 2A-1A division they are all so drunk that everything gets placed way out of whack! I can just hear them "HEY, look at this district I just made! It looks like that funny leaf on the Canadian flag.....hahahahaha!"

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No way Cameron should be 2A. Dividing it up is ridiculous.

They need to do away with this realignment and put schools like Cameron back in 3A where they belong.

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Well here's the problem jan. What constitutes a "2A" and "3A" school in our minds is not the same as what the enrollment figures bear out. The larger schools and the number of larger schools is getting greater, and the number of smaller schools is shrinking.

20 years ago, a 3A school was 289 to 715 students. During this realignment it was 450 to 1000. 20 years ago, West was solidly a 3A school. Now, our enrollment hasn't change that much, and we are on the border of dropping down.

So it's not that Cameron isn't a 2A school....it's just not what WE think of when we think of a 2A school, because it was historically 3A for a long time. The time is coming for schools like West and Hillsboro...we will be 2A before long.

All I know is that from what my friends and relatives in Cameron tell me, they play in these tiny 2A stadiums against teams thatt have 30'people in their band.

Cameron looks totally out of place in these cracker box stadiums.

It's support and numbers....some smaller schools just don't think this way.

There should probably be different paramaters for 3A...make 4Alarger.

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must have been some big rubber bands for some of the districts.

The reason Cameron dropped is because enrollment remained stagnant while other areas grew and forced the UIL to shift the enrollment brackets upwardly. Cameron isn't alone. Happens all over the state.

One example is West Orange Stark. They were winning 5A State Championships in the late 80s. 15 or so years later they were solidly 3A, where they remain today. They went from playing in 12,000 capacity stadiums to little wooden cracker boxes in only a few years. It's what happens when a school has enrollment stagnation or decline while other parts of the State are growing through the roof.