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http://kdhnews.com/kdhpressbox/temple-salado-could-be-on-the-move-in-next-realignment/article_eccc3a08-3e0e-11e3-983f-0019bb30f31a.html

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Temple, Salado could be on the move in next realignment
Clay Whittington | Herald staff writer Contact Clay Whittington at clayw@kdhnews.com | Updated 2 days ago

Almost every team in the area will change classifications, but it has little to do with enrollment.

Schools from across the state submitted their snapshot enrollments to the University Interscholastic League on Friday, and, according to various realignment predictions and previous cutoff numbers, most area schools will be retaining their present status despite changing classes.

With the upcoming institution of a new Class 6A, which creates a ripple affect as six-man becomes 1A, 1A becomes 2A and so forth, and the cutoff ranges expected to remain fairly similar to where they are now, the only area schools with a serious potential of moving are Temple and Salado.

The Wildcats turned in an enrollment of 2,049. Based on the fall 2012 through spring 2014 cutoff numbers, Temple would be a 5A team under the future alignment scale.

“I think we’ll probably be on the bubble,” Temple athletic director/head football coach Mike Spradlin said, “but I don’t know.”

While Temple could be remaining the same or moving down, depending on personal viewpoint, Salado might be heading up to 4A based on its enrollment. The Eagles’ 478 students would place the program in 3A under previous cutoff numbers.

“We’re either the smallest 3A or the largest 2A,” Salado athletic director/head football coach Brent Graham said. “We’ve kind of been preparing for this just in case it happened because we’re always close to the cutoff.”

Classification cutoff numbers for the biennial realignment process are typically revealed in February, but the UIL recently informed coaches and administrators it will release the numbers early — perhaps in November.

Regardless of when the information is made public, its arrival is typically greeted with much fanfare as it determines district and regional placement for all UIL schools. Although District 8-5A could be affected, Killeen Independent School District athletic director Tom Rogers feels certain his programs will remain together.

“If someone goes down, it’s going to leave one less team in the district, which means you have to pick up one more nondistrict game,” he said of Temple potentially falling down a classification. “I don’t see (two teams going down). I really believe they might leave us as a six-team district.”

The current cutoff for 5A is 2,090 or more students, which each of KISD’s four schools comfortably clears. Killeen turned in 2,313, while Ellison had 2,652, Shoemaker had 2,271, and Harker Heights had 2,345

Lampasas and Gatesville are both expected to be 4A based on their snapshot enrollments of 1,017 and 788, respectively, while Florence appears to be bound for 3A after submitting an enrollment of 315. Lometa would be a 1A team based on current cutoff numbers after turning in an enrollment of 82.

Enrollment, however, is not the only factor in determining if schools rise or fall in classification. Another major consideration is the number of schools within each classification — something Belton athletic director/head football coach Rodney Southern believes could alter the surrounding landscape.

“The UIL hasn’t shook up this area,” he said. “With a lot of these teams with 4A numbers now … it puts kind of a different perspective on this Central Texas district.”

Belton’s snapshot enrollment was 2,916. Copperas Cove did not have a submitted enrollment to report, but based on its previous enrollment, it would be a 6A program.

Midway will be on the border based on its previous enrollment of 2,127.

“We just have to kind of wait and see what they will do with the cutoff,” Killeen head coach Sam Jones said. “But I think in our district, (we will) see the same schools, just looking at the cutoff number that is projected.”

Albert Alvarado, Brian Bradley and Jordan Mason

contributed to this report.

UIL CONFERENCE CUTOFF NUMBERS

Fall 2012 – Spring 2014

5A – 2,090 and larger
4A – 1,005 to 2,089
3A – 450 to 1,004
2A – 200 to 449
1A – 199 and smaller
Six-Man – 99.9 and smaller (for football, basketball and spring meets)

Captain Pablo
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Did Temple include the alternative campus in the count? If not, I suspect the Temple people are conceding the inevitable..

As for Salado, they were 3A before and expected them to move back up at some point. I also wouldn't be surprised if Academy moved up in 4-6 years with all the development out south 5th Street

Belton at nearly 3000 is higher than I expected. A lot of development out West Adams and pea Ridge areas, as well as around the expo center.

They'll have a 2d high school within 5-7 years, I predict

Back to Temple, Jan, do you predict a placement north with Waco/Cleburne etc, or South with Georgetown?
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No, but I'll ask someone who knows.
Cowboy1990
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Hadn't heard about the early release of classification in November but would welcome that. Even if you don't know for sure who you're aligned with.
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West turned in a number that should put us in the old 2A/new 3A (441.5)

[This message has been edited by BohunkAg (edited 10/29/2013 9:31a).]
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I wonder if West will be in a district with Cameron any time soon?

Cameron is LOVING 2A...lots of domination.
Cowboy1990
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Here is a list of supposed enrollments from last week that I found on another site.

4,149-Duncanville
3,303-Arlington Martin
2,916-Belton
2,666-Haltom
2,652-Killeen Ellison
2,401-North Crowley
2,345-Harker Heights
2,313-Killeen
2,307-Mansfield
2,287-Rockwall
2,271-Killeen Shoemaker
2,248-Mesquite Horn
2,229-Waco Midway
2,174-Richland High
2,088-Lufkin
2,079-Rockwall-Heath
2,063-Longview
2,039-Temple
2,006-Birdville
1,981-Texas High
1,968-John Tyler
1.938-Mansfield Summit
1,938-Mansfield Legacy
1,925-Crowley
1,738-Waco High
1,715-A&M Consolidated
1,712-Nacogdoches
1,629-Mansfield Timberview
1,551-Ennis
1,549.5-College Station H.S.
1,548-Aledo
1,539-Waco University
1,460-Corsicana
1,454-Burleson
1,453-Mount Pleasant
1,393-Joshua
1,392-Marshall
1,351-Hallsville
1,210-Jacksonville
1,126-Sulphur Springs
1,026-Kilgore
1,017-Lampasas
996-Stephenville
993-Kaufman
985-Athens
978-Mabank
972-Chapel Hill
896-Henderson
846-North Lamar
789-Palestine
788-Gatesville
743-Waco La Vega
734-Robinson
723-Carthage
721-Liberty-Eylau
719-Pittsburg
718-China Spring
686-Jasper
685-Gilmer
662-Center
653-Ferris
642-Madisonville
623-Pleasant Grove
615-Waco Connally
601-Canton
598-Rusk
580-Atlanta
545-Gladewater
522-Lorena
518-Tatum
508-Diboll
507-Mexia
484-Rains
482-Spring Hill
480-Fairfield
468-Groesbeck
459-Hillsboro
449-Caddo Mills
447-Mineola
441.5-West
429-Mount Vernon
424-Palestine Westwood
410-Sunnyvale
408-Troy
405-Commerce
401-McGregor
397-Eustace
393-White Oak
390-Cameron Yoe
385-Winnsboro
381-Kemp
368-Little River-Academy
353-Malakoff
350-Jefferson
345-Teague
333-Prairiland
330-Daingerfeld
318-Harmony
315-Scurry-Rosser
309-Lone Oak
308-Trinity
307-Maypearl
307-Grand Saline
306-Elysian Fields
302-Clifton
296-Newton
295-Jarrell
292-Hooks
291-Queen City
290-Franklin
289-Blooming Grove
287-Dublin
283-Chisum
275-Buffalo
271-Paul Pewitt
270-West Rusk
270-Lexington
269-New Diana
262-Winona
256-Bruceville-Eddy
255-Waskom
251-Alba-Golden
237-Corsicana Mildred
233-Cooper
225-Garrison
225-DeKalb
223-Frankston
221-Linden-Kildare
221-Leon
219-Groveton
218-Hawkins
216-Joaquin
215-Centerville
211-Ore City
211-Rivercrest
207-Rosebud-Lott
205-Union Grove
203-Bosqueville
202-West Sabine
199-Harleton
196-Axtell
196-Beckville
194-Alto
192-Cayuga
191-Big Sandy
191-Holland
190-Simms Bowie
187-Valley Mills
185-Thorndale
185-San Augustine
184-Goldthwaite
180-Shelbyville
179-Hico
177-Carlisle
176-Kerens
171-Clarksville
164-Mart
162-Honey Grove
162-Grapeland
159-West Hardin
153-Normangee
153-Santo
152-Overton
152-Meridian
147-Timpson
145-Italy
142-Tenaha
137-Wortham
137-Chilton
136-Dawson
135-Maud
130-Detroit
107-Cumby
102-Mount Enterprise
60-****ord
57.5 -Leverett's Chapel
57-Apple Springs
55-Chester
Captain Pablo
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I think you left out a couple...
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BohunkAg
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Interesting that West is lower than Hillsboro now...but makes sense. Gholson, which was a feeder school to West (only went through 8th grade), opened their own high school in the past couple years and took like 50 students.
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135-Maud


KBK60
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I heard Temple would be put into district with both Waco schools, both Georgetowns, Pfluggerville Connally and maybe an Austin school.

Another scenario would be Temple being the southern tip of a district with both Waco schools, Alvarado, both Burleson schools, Cleburn and Joshua.

I think Temple and schools to the south are more likely.


Cowboy1990
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Pabs,

I jusy cut and pasted what someone else had on another site. Not my original work.
Captain Pablo
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I was kidding. That list was thoroughly, um, thorough..
3rd Generation Ag
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I am surprised that Lexington with that high an enrollment cancelled the JV game with us because they said they don't have enough players to field a JV. Not that long ago they were a powerhouse.

I did not see our enrollment on there either. I don't know what we turned in. We did have a handful move away in the last few weeks.

[This message has been edited by 3rd Generation Ag (edited 10/31/2013 11:34a).]
Captain Pablo
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Lexington may just have low participation. I have seen small programs jump from 30 kids to 90 kids in one year, and it followed a coaching change

It is absolutely the job of the head coach to get kids to come out for their particular sport, and the place to start is sub-varsity.

Low participation will kill a program. Same goes for basketball, band, drama, or whatever.

Not saying it's the coach's fault at Lexington. Could be a lot of factors. Grades, for one...
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Belton is huge.
Unbelievable numbers!
c-jags
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Before I left Belton they reported that they think we were going to have 10K students in the district this year. And the HS count, that's not counting the almost 400 kids at New Tech I believe.
Captain Pablo
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I think the HS count does include new tech

New Tech kids are all eligible for UIL competition as part of Belton HS. As such, I think they must include their numbers.

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From a school perspective, everyone I talked to here at THigh are perfectly fine with remaining in 5A while everyone moves to 6A.

The only problem is, I understand that we tried to schedule Belton in an early, non-district game, and it's my understanding from someone who definitely, definitely knows, that the AD over there said no.

Interesting.

Oh, and this same source (again, no one knows more than this guy, trust me) tells me that we really don't know which direction we'll go in. We might go to the Austin area schools like Georgetwon and Leander schools. There's a good chance we end up in the Ft. Worth area, also. There's an equally good chance we end up with the College Station/Bryan schools, since all four will be 5A (I think Rudder will, also, but I could be wrong about that one).

I think they're hoping to move south towards Austin, but they just don't know at this time.
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Interesting

Is the Belton AD's name DeLoss Dodds by any chance

ZING!!!!!
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Rabid Cougar
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West,Troy, McGregor,Cameron and Academy
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Is the Belton AD's name DeLoss Dodds by any chance



well they do come out to "texas Fight."

Cowboy1990
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Rabid, what does that mean?
Captain Pablo
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Cru,

It's code. We're on a need to know basis and I guess we don't need to know...

Cowboy1990
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I feel like the player from Miami. ....Martin
Captain Pablo
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I have no idea what Rabid Cougar was trying to say either
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West,Troy, McGregor,Cameron and Academy



Ding.

What are 2A schools in the area that aren't Moody, Bruceville-Eddy, Rogers, or Salado?

Alex, I'll take 5A realignment for $300

[This message has been edited by c-jags (edited 11/7/2013 8:50a).]
Captain Pablo
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You left out Hearne
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You left out Hearne, Rosebud-Lott, and Franklin


Fify
c-jags
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I think CS can claim Hearne.
Captain Pablo
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ha!
80s Guy
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Then who claims Calvert?
Captain Pablo
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Calvert ain't 2A

But I think Wheelock claims them
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