The previous generation Tundras were great looking IMO. The new ones are horrible looking - like large mouth bass with braces.nealan said:
Mine's a 2021. Love it
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They went full Chevy and got square wheel wells, dumbest thing any truck maker could do.
Madmarttigan said:
So I'm not a truck guy previously but I'm thinking about getting one and was wondering Texags opinions. I'm normally a Toyota guy but Tundras are more expensive and looking around at reviews and ratings it seems like recent RAM trucks are actually pretty well regarded compared to other brands right now. They are also more budget friendly than a tundra. Does anyone have any strong opinions for or against a RAM truck? Also does 1500 classic vs 1500 matter?
Would likely be getting a used 2022 or 2023 at some point next year so looking at those years in particular for the best bang for my buck. I don't really care about interior gadgets or anything fancy. Fords seem to be pricier than RAM as well and I don't really have an interest in Chevy.
Looking to decide if an extra 10k for a tundra is really worth it for ride and reliability if they aren't even rated higher on reliability these days.
Just bought a RAM Laramie midnight edition. To each their own of course, but I loved the ride, interior, looks, etc better than any other full size truck out there.
And man, the discounts/deals they had were the best I have seen in a while.
Nice, congrats! Granite Crystal Metallic is a great color
Thanks! Yeah, love that color…was a must have for me for sure.
That's a damn fine looking truck. Congrats!
Can you wait a few months? One of our long time car guys posted recently that he expects lots of repos to hit the lots in the next 3-6 months.
Nice looking truck!
Any more you can share about the deals they were offering? I'm a few months out from getting something but am curious what the market is looking like right now.
Any more you can share about the deals they were offering? I'm a few months out from getting something but am curious what the market is looking like right now.
yes, please share. I'm probably going to dip my feet into possibly getting a truck.
I have a company one but i fear with how bad inflation has been, is and will be along with the new UAW agreement, trucks are going get a lot more expensive in the next 6 months or so.
I have a company one but i fear with how bad inflation has been, is and will be along with the new UAW agreement, trucks are going get a lot more expensive in the next 6 months or so.
HoosierAG,
Looks like you and I bought he same exact truck! I picked up my 2022 granite/metallic Laramie Night Edition back in April 2022 from Mark Dodge in Lake Charles. Love the interior and the ride!
Blue Goose & Kubiak, I'm not sure how the market is now, but back in March 2022 Mark Dodge was by far the best deal out there. Go to the official RAM site and build your truck and then email Mark Dodge with the options you selected and they will send you a no-haggle price within hours or next day.
fyi here's the contact I used: Renae Jamieson rjamieson@markdodge.net
(my apologies, I haven't washed her in over 9 months)
Looks like you and I bought he same exact truck! I picked up my 2022 granite/metallic Laramie Night Edition back in April 2022 from Mark Dodge in Lake Charles. Love the interior and the ride!
Blue Goose & Kubiak, I'm not sure how the market is now, but back in March 2022 Mark Dodge was by far the best deal out there. Go to the official RAM site and build your truck and then email Mark Dodge with the options you selected and they will send you a no-haggle price within hours or next day.
fyi here's the contact I used: Renae Jamieson rjamieson@markdodge.net
(my apologies, I haven't washed her in over 9 months)
The Blue Goose said:
Nice looking truck!
Any more you can share about the deals they were offering? I'm a few months out from getting something but am curious what the market is looking like right now.
LeftyAg89's post above did exactly what I did...but I ended up doing something else in the end (more on that below). I live in NC but once I started looking everywhere on the RAM truck I wanted, I ran across Mark Dodge. You can build and get a price or find one on the lot as they have a ton. I chose off the lot and their prices are incredible, no haggle, plus a $425 processing fee and then TTL. That's itt, no dealer add ins or anything elsr,and they take care of it all over the phone/text. They will deliver anywhere if needed as well. If you look at them now, they are at $14k or so off MSRP rcurrently…plus they will probably take some more off and that will be their offer.
I was going to do just that ....but decided to bring the offer to a local dealer that had my exact truck I wanted (pics posted above) as they were very eager to beat any offer. They looked at the Mark Dodge offer and couldn't believe it...but it happened to be the last day of the month and they needed one more RAM sale to hit all kinds of bonuses. Long story short they beat the offer and was basically $16k off, gave me another $2k more on my trade in (which was better than any other offer already) plus all kinds of free oil changes, and other things.
Not sure that will happen elsewhere or with the the other truck lines, but wouldn't be surprised as it's now end of year time obviously. And this was a 2024, not a 2023. Maybe it's because of the new RAM 2025s coming with the new V6 twin turbo Hurricane engine and some other redesigns. I don't know but I haven't seen deals like this (that I am aware of) since pre covid.
Beautiful truck!! 
See my post above...I did the same thing with Mark Dodge in LA (to start).
How is your truck doing?
See my post above...I did the same thing with Mark Dodge in LA (to start).
How is your truck doing?
Vote for the Ram here. Get the RAM and you won't be sorry.
I have a 2013 Limited with 140K and the issues I have had include replacing the infotainment system (the radio) which was pricey at $800 and had to replace the two rear airbags. The airbags were only $500 and it was one of the easiest repairs I have ever done on a vehicle.
Edit: The airbags I am referring to are actually the airsprings for the air ride suspension.
I'm not sure what I will do for new vehicles after the HEMI goes away but I would guess my next vehicle will be a RAM 2500. I don't know what we will do for the wife because she is in a 2018 Durango with the HEMI (she loves her HEMIs).
I have a 2013 Limited with 140K and the issues I have had include replacing the infotainment system (the radio) which was pricey at $800 and had to replace the two rear airbags. The airbags were only $500 and it was one of the easiest repairs I have ever done on a vehicle.
Edit: The airbags I am referring to are actually the airsprings for the air ride suspension.
I'm not sure what I will do for new vehicles after the HEMI goes away but I would guess my next vehicle will be a RAM 2500. I don't know what we will do for the wife because she is in a 2018 Durango with the HEMI (she loves her HEMIs).
Have had Fords and Nissan before but bought a 2020 RAM Limited with the Hemi 3.5 yrs ago. 60k miles later and I've had no issues with it. Love it.
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So this thread a week ago got me the itch I think i just had a bad Chevy salesman but he wouldnt give me a ballpark vs msrp for the Trailboss 4X4 today
Went to Dodge dealer down the road and negotiated a $70k Laramie to $58 K Granite color is superb
Id prefer an F150 to the others but was going to look tomorrow
Does anyone have an idea of what real price vs msrp on a (non-Raptor) loaded 4x4 F150 would be? Austin area but would go anywhere for right deal
Went to Dodge dealer down the road and negotiated a $70k Laramie to $58 K Granite color is superb
Id prefer an F150 to the others but was going to look tomorrow
Does anyone have an idea of what real price vs msrp on a (non-Raptor) loaded 4x4 F150 would be? Austin area but would go anywhere for right deal
Go look at Days Supply inventory of Ram vs Tundra.
There is a reason the days supply of Ram greatly exceeds that of the Tundra - they aren't moving. Thus the discount some people are bragging about.
The Tundra is a better quality vehicle. Don't get swayed by the grille looks or cushy interior talk. The Ram will likely be in the shop a lot more than the Tundra.
There is a reason the days supply of Ram greatly exceeds that of the Tundra - they aren't moving. Thus the discount some people are bragging about.
The Tundra is a better quality vehicle. Don't get swayed by the grille looks or cushy interior talk. The Ram will likely be in the shop a lot more than the Tundra.
You know how I can tell you have never owned a Ram?Quote:
The Ram will likely be in the shop a lot more than the Tundra.
All the monies
Wrong.MaroonDontRun said:You know how I can tell you have never owned a Ram?Quote:
The Ram will likely be in the shop a lot more than the Tundra.
The Ram I owned had the water pump disintegrate and left me stranded. I had it towed to the dealer where they put a new one in, but it was the wrong model or something and as a result, the engine overheated. The heads warped but luckily the dealer replaced the heads on their dime. This was an 03 I believe.
Don't judge the current iteration of the RAM trucks based on something that happened 20 years ago. It also sounds like you soured on the truck based on a dealer mistake (notwithstanding the original water pump failure).Fannie Luddite said:Wrong.MaroonDontRun said:You know how I can tell you have never owned a Ram?Quote:
The Ram will likely be in the shop a lot more than the Tundra.
The Ram I owned had the water pump disintegrate and left me stranded. I had it towed to the dealer where they put a new one in, but it was the wrong model or something and as a result, the engine overheated. The heads warped but luckily the dealer replaced the heads on their dime. This was an 03 I believe.
Anecdotally, I had a 2004 Dodge 1500 that was rock solid and only had a wheel bearing and a minor distributor component fail during my 10 years and 180,000 mile ownership. That and the absolute luxury of the new ones is the reason I am such a big fan.
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Fannie Luddite said:Wrong.MaroonDontRun said:You know how I can tell you have never owned a Ram?Quote:
The Ram will likely be in the shop a lot more than the Tundra.
The Ram I owned had the water pump disintegrate and left me stranded. I had it towed to the dealer where they put a new one in, but it was the wrong model or something and as a result, the engine overheated. The heads warped but luckily the dealer replaced the heads on their dime. This was an 03 I believe.
I had an 05 and my water pump also just fell apart. Now, mine did this at around 150k and did it as I was pulling into my driveway. Was a pain to replace because I had to remove all kinds of things to get to it, but once fixed it was good til I sold it at 225k. That water pump was about the only thing I had to replace and water pumps are a wear item. Damn, mine was a good truck.
2021 Laramie with 62K miles. ZERO issues.
plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose
December is historically the best time to buy a vehicle. End of year incentives, bonus cash (or whatever the manu. is offering the dealers) is there and they can make up an loss on a sale in dec. with the bonus they get from the manu. In January, those incentives are all gone. They want to get those used cars off the lot as well.dubi said:
Can you wait a few months? One of our long time car guys posted recently that he expects lots of repos to hit the lots in the next 3-6 months.
2024 prices are also going up, and the used cars will go up as well in the 1st quarter of 2024.
Yours is pretty sharp looking too! haha
I've had my truck about 20 months or so, and so far so good with mine.
Loving the smooth, comfortable, quiet ride. Love the seats but my only complaint is the "ventilated" seats. My previous car (a Ford) also had black leather and the COOLED seats were icey cold.
My brother convinced me to give Ram a try... he has had his previous gen Ram for 7+ years / 170k miles and never had an issue... knock on wood, and says he's going to wait and buy the last dino model Ram. However that was before he heard the news about the Hemi being phased out.
I've had my truck about 20 months or so, and so far so good with mine.
Loving the smooth, comfortable, quiet ride. Love the seats but my only complaint is the "ventilated" seats. My previous car (a Ford) also had black leather and the COOLED seats were icey cold.
My brother convinced me to give Ram a try... he has had his previous gen Ram for 7+ years / 170k miles and never had an issue... knock on wood, and says he's going to wait and buy the last dino model Ram. However that was before he heard the news about the Hemi being phased out.
Love my 2022 Laramie 1500. No problems and smoothest ride available out there right now of all full size pickups.
People (especially on this forum) swear off brands forever for stuff Ford does all the time and then buy a Ford.
My '20 Ram 2500 has been nails. My '19 F-150 Plat and my '16 Silverado LTZ before that had nothing but problems. Obviously you must base your decisions on MY anecdotal experience not yours or anyone else!
My '20 Ram 2500 has been nails. My '19 F-150 Plat and my '16 Silverado LTZ before that had nothing but problems. Obviously you must base your decisions on MY anecdotal experience not yours or anyone else!
HumbleAg04 said:
People (especially on this forum) swear off brands forever for stuff Ford does all the time and then buy a Ford.
My '20 Ram 2500 has been nails. My '19 F-150 Plat and my '16 Silverado LTZ before that had nothing but problems. Obviously you must base your decisions on MY anecdotal experience not yours or anyone else!
2023 Ram here with 11K miles and NO problems!!!!
Yeah I've owned it only 5 months. But I love it.
Yeah I've owned it only 5 months. But I love it.
What was your price out the door?
Absolutely love my 23. But it wasn't cheap did get the look right.
Nice looking! What trim is that? I've looked at the online build sheet. Looks like you can order them with a 3" factory lift. Did you do that?
Limited with the Off Road package. I added the factory lift at the dealer. I would have definitely ordered it this way if it was an option at the time.
Nice. I have that exact truck but's white. TRD Pro. I even have those same tires on mine. It's a tank for sure but fun to drive. Zero issues so far with anything.nealan said:
Mine's a 2021. Love it
The "tech" in the earlier Toyotas is less impressive, but since I use the phone for everything, all I need is bluetooth.
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I'm on the fence between a Ram 1500 Crew Cab or Tundra Iforce max. Likely both in limited trims. I think I slightly lean Tundra.
The Pilot said:
I'm on the fence between a Ram 1500 Crew Cab or Tundra Iforce max. Likely both in limited trims. I think I slightly lean Tundra.
I don't know how much is different b/w the 23 and 25 Tundra, but when I was looking, the Tundra interior looked cheap, felt cheap, and the seats were not to comfortable.
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