Vette? Factory ZR1? Dang….
I don't understand this. These statements are seemingly incongruent.kyledr04 said:
Impressive but will be almost impossible to buy one. GM excels at not a actually making what people want.
This.Yesterday said:
You can easily get a z06 which beats most super cars today if you want it. Chevy knocked it out of the park with this generation of corvettes.
dodger02 said:I don't understand this. These statements are seemingly incongruent.kyledr04 said:
Impressive but will be almost impossible to buy one. GM excels at not a actually making what people want.
Is this in relation to the Corvette? Are you saying huge numbers of people really want a >$200k ZR1 and Chevrolet isn't going to make enough of them? OK, fair, I guess. But how many people can afford a $200k car?
The ZR1 is a hypercar by every metric other than price (by hypercar standards). It will never be mass produced by the tens of thousands.
But if you're saying Chevrolet isn't making sports cars that people want, then I would disagree. If you want an affordable supercar, there's the Stingray, the Stingray with Z51, and the Z06. The ZR1 is just a "look what we can do" car. From $70k to >$200k, pick your flavor and color. Criticize GM for jettisoning the Camaro. Fine and fair.
I also don't understand the criticism about being "almost impossible to buy one" when you have Porsche building limited numbers of GT3s, GT4s, and S/Ts that you can't buy new unless you have previously purchased 2 Macans, a Cayenne, a Carrera, and a 911 GTS.
dodger02 said:I don't understand this. These statements are seemingly incongruent.kyledr04 said:
Impressive but will be almost impossible to buy one. GM excels at not a actually making what people want.
Is this in relation to the Corvette? Are you saying huge numbers of people really want a >$200k ZR1 and Chevrolet isn't going to make enough of them? OK, fair, I guess. But how many people can afford a $200k car?
The ZR1 is a hypercar by every metric other than price (by hypercar standards). It will never be mass produced by the tens of thousands.
But if you're saying Chevrolet isn't making sports cars that people want, then I would disagree. If you want an affordable supercar, there's the Stingray, the Stingray with Z51, and the Z06. The ZR1 is just a "look what we can do" car. From $70k to >$200k, pick your flavor and color. Criticize GM for jettisoning the Camaro. Fine and fair.
I also don't understand the criticism about being "almost impossible to buy one" when you have Porsche building limited numbers of GT3s, GT4s, and S/Ts that you can't buy new unless you have previously purchased 2 Macans, a Cayenne, a Carrera, and a 911 GTS.
Aston 91 said:
1,064 hp on pump gas with a factory warranty is just insane. I'm overly nostalgic (still have my first car, a 1966 Chevy II that I got in 1985) but this thing blows any prior Corvette - and pretty much any car for the expected price - out of the water.
Milwaukees Best Light said:
Do you have to have a 5 point harness on that thing?
Aggie Dad 26 said:Aston 91 said:
1,064 hp on pump gas with a factory warranty is just insane. I'm overly nostalgic (still have my first car, a 1966 Chevy II that I got in 1985) but this thing blows any prior Corvette - and pretty much any car for the expected price - out of the water.
My goodness, please start a seperate thread on this car so this one doesn't get hijacked. I drove a 63' Chevy II in HS and have been looking at them online lately
It's not just GM. Ford did the same thing with the Shelby GT500 and all of the various Raptors. And you can't just go buy a GT you have to apply for the allocation and be approved by corporate. I think some of this may be regulatory. Don't the gas guzzlers have to be offset with economy cars in annual sales or there's some kind of penalty?kyledr04 said:dodger02 said:I don't understand this. These statements are seemingly incongruent.kyledr04 said:
Impressive but will be almost impossible to buy one. GM excels at not a actually making what people want.
Is this in relation to the Corvette? Are you saying huge numbers of people really want a >$200k ZR1 and Chevrolet isn't going to make enough of them? OK, fair, I guess. But how many people can afford a $200k car?
The ZR1 is a hypercar by every metric other than price (by hypercar standards). It will never be mass produced by the tens of thousands.
But if you're saying Chevrolet isn't making sports cars that people want, then I would disagree. If you want an affordable supercar, there's the Stingray, the Stingray with Z51, and the Z06. The ZR1 is just a "look what we can do" car. From $70k to >$200k, pick your flavor and color. Criticize GM for jettisoning the Camaro. Fine and fair.
I also don't understand the criticism about being "almost impossible to buy one" when you have Porsche building limited numbers of GT3s, GT4s, and S/Ts that you can't buy new unless you have previously purchased 2 Macans, a Cayenne, a Carrera, and a 911 GTS.
Because GM logistics and unwillingness to let people give them their money is a mess.
Remember how hard it was to find it a z06 and all the crazy dealer markups? It's taken a long time for them to be available without a long wait. My small local dealer finally got one. I can't imagine they build a lot of these just like Ford GT. But given the price, there can't be huge demand but short supply will keep the price up.
More broadly, they can't properly allocate Yukons, Tahoes, Acadias, Traverses, or 2500s to build what people actually want so that the inventory doesn't build up with stuff no one really wants. It's very hard to find zr2 1500 or 2500 trucks. They make these special models then limit production to a tiny percentage of the overall capacity. Then you'd think that ordering one is the way to get what you want but that may not work either because you need to order from a dealer with allocation.
For Corvettes, you couldn't get a zo6 unless you'd sold some c7 Zo6. So, I bet all the zr1 go to those few super high volume dealers. Over the next few years a few might be available in Texas. There's an entire forum dedicated to gaming the allocation system. And even when you might get a chance to order, it's very likely something you want will be constrained.