Any Tesla Model 3 or Y owners on here?

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BQ2001 said:

Is there any hint on the release date for the next Model Y? I never thought I'd be looking at one but here I am. Have some really good credits in CO and now that I'm back driving to the office a couple days a week (free charging at work) I'm considering one.


I'd go drive a Model 3 and pay attention to things like the turn signals and shifter not being stalks on the steering column. I just bought a Y and love it. Before I took delivery there was a snag with EPA ratings that caused a 2-3 day delay for the 2025 model year and that delay got me considering a 3 instead so I drove one. I loved the car and got used to the turn signals quickly but still wasn't a fan. I will say I was questioning my decision pretty strongly during that test drive and was actually calling my wife to tell her I wanted the 3 when the Tesla app on my phone went off to tell me my Y was ready for delivery. I think we call that Devine intervention. Lol

My point though is that the expectation is that much of the new stuff on the 3 will be on the Y so you can experience them and decide if you like them then if you don't you get a current Y instead of waiting for something you end up not liking. Just a thought.
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Longest road trip report (only done HOU-CS-HOU):
Houston to Mt Pleasant yesterday with a 25 minute charge in Nacogdoches and FSD set to 75 most of the way. Much more relaxing than normal and I'm sad my FSD trial ended today.

I was worried about the charger demand but there was only one other car at the SC and no cars when I passed the SC in Henderson mid afternoon. I am going to get on the road very early tomorrow since it's a busy travel day, and considering driving 30 extra miles to hit 45 in Fairfield. Not sure if more chargers along 45 would be worth it since there's a lot more traffic. I only saw 1 or 2 other Teslas the whole way here.
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BQ2001 said:

Is there any hint on the release date for the next Model Y? I never thought I'd be looking at one but here I am. Have some really good credits in CO and now that I'm back driving to the office a couple days a week (free charging at work) I'm considering one.
Likely 1H 2025. They have said they will have new models in the first half of 2025 on their last two earnings calls/investor disclosures. They have test vehicles on the road right now, but they cover them/haven't discussed the specifics of what's coming. It could be a half measure refresh or a radical change like the Cybertruck.

My expectation is that it will launch to China/Europe first and you'll be able to get an impression of what is coming in advance of the end of the current version and decide if you want to take the discounts on the current version or spend extra for the new version.
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My trial ended today, too. I was having fun with it but don't trust it 100% so not willing to pay for it yet.
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I had a 2020 Model Y 75K miles and was totaled. This was an earlier model and I came from a BMW X5.
I then got a 2023 Model Y LR and have 45K miles on it. So I averaged about 35K miles a year. I make Austin to CS, Corpus, SA, Dallas, or Houston about 4 times a month or 50 times a year. Her are my thoughts and base it on my X5.

Pros
1. The seat comfort is fantastic. It is by far the best seat and most comfortable. Its personal preference but it fits me like a glove.
2. The Tech and software is years ahead of any other car maker. I am talking about 5+ years ahead. The computer/touchscreen is as fast as my high end home computer. There is zero lag.
3. in 120K miles, I have had essentially zero maintenance. I had a few minor issues that popped up and getting service was a piece of cake. Maybe I live in Austin and there are just more centers. My C port burned due to a bad 3rd party accessory last week. I made a request through my app that took 1 minute. I got a reply the same day and set up mobile service for today. 1st avail was 2 dys from request. Cost for mobile is $175. That's right. Someone coming to my home, fixing it, replacing whatever module for $175. What a bargain. Take this same issue to BMW and its $1K+ and I am sitting there for 2-4 hrs. Other than this ZERO Service. The manual says scheduled service is when you see something wrong. Zero oil, zero belts, zero brakes, zero fluid. Crazy how low maintenance this car is
4. OTA updates are amazing. I mean the updates are fast, never have any issues, and car always gets improved.
5. Gas and maintenance savings is significant. I prob saved 15K+
6. Why does 90% of drivers pour gas? I wake up with 240miles (80%). I only supercharge when I go to Houston/Dallas/corpus. I can drive from Austin to CS and back without charging. I went to Houston yesterday, arrived with 80miles left. Drove back, and spent 10 min at supercharger grabbing a bite/bathroom break. Home with 30miles left. Cost was $15. I drove by 10+ superchargers from Houston to Austin. Same can be said for Dallas. Its so easy to do. No credit cards. No wait. Just grab, plug, and go.
7. Drive and control - no comparison. Much safer than an X5 with all the sensors/cameras/tech.
8. Regen Brake - This is such a safe option. People who say its harsh does not know how to use it. Turn it off if you want. When I start to break, I pick up my feet slowly and car slows down slowly. The reaction time from breaking in Regen to a gas car is slightly faster but noticeable. I hate driving a car that requires me to push the brakes. I prob avg braking 2 times a day and sometimes never use the brakes. Its a game changer and until you really use it, you don't know what you are missing.

Cons
1. Fit and finish. BMW is just better. Feels more solid. Tesla can improve on this but its a small issue to me
2. Range anxiety and inconvenience. Its real esp early on in the experience. Long trips over 1K miles would be a pain. But after a year driving, the anxiety goes away. I don't see an issue at all. Put in your destination and the car tells you where to stop and how long it will be. The car will tell you when you can stop charging. I have done it enough where I know almost exactly how much I need. Its a non issue after a year
3. All glass roof. Looks great but does get hot. I just put on a custom shade that is 30 bucks on amazon and essentially solves this issue


I can't think of anything else that is an issue with the car. IMO it is by far the best made car out there under 60K. My 16 YO just got an EV. I have a Model Y. My wife who was initially scared about range anxiety has no issues going to dallas because there are just so many superchargers on the highway. She is trading in her minivan for a Model X.

This is just my opinion after driving over 120K miles. Its an almost flawless car. Did I say I can tow my boat too? The torque is amazing.
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Medaggie said:

6. Why does 90% of drivers pour gas? I wake up with 240miles (80%).
Who says 'pour gas'?!

Medaggie said:

2. Range anxiety and inconvenience. Its real esp early on in the experience.
It does take a bit to get over and I wish that Tesla would have a virtual line option or better visibility into how crowded the super chargers are and/or predicted to be. I've never had to wait in line and I don't want to. I did see a line form after i pulled in at a SC in Vegas when I had a rental. It was a cluster w/ folks waiting across from the SC as well as on the sides.
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Better charger availability planning is apparently coming in the holiday update.
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hph6203 said:

Better charger availability planning is apparently coming in the holiday update.
I got my update yesterday. FSD
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Guitarsoup said:

hph6203 said:

Better charger availability planning is apparently coming in the holiday update.
I got my update yesterday. FSD
I have FSD and the advancement is amazing. I drive 80% FSD in the city and 95% on highway. Drove at night on a 2 lane highway, pitch black on FSD. Car suddenly did a hard brake and by the time I figured out why, the deer was in my sight. The car saw the dear before I did and I am not sure I could have broke in time.

I have never had an issue with charge planning so what is the issue? The car will tell you where the chargers are, the cost, the speed of charge, and how many are available vs in use.
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Medaggie said:

Guitarsoup said:

hph6203 said:

Better charger availability planning is apparently coming in the holiday update.
I got my update yesterday. FSD
I have FSD and the advancement is amazing. I drive 80% FSD in the city and 95% on highway. Drove at night on a 2 lane highway, pitch black on FSD. Car suddenly did a hard brake and by the time I figured out why, the deer was in my sight. The car saw the dear before I did and I am not sure I could have broke in time.

I have never had an issue with charge planning so what is the issue? The car will tell you where the chargers are, the cost, the speed of charge, and how many are available vs in use.
I can't see how many chargers are in use (and cars en route) until I'm close to the charger, maybe I'm looking in the wrong place. I might be able to see trends of use before starting the route. Hasn't been an issue yet but I was nervous driving through East Texas the day before Thanksgiving.
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I got a Model Y LR three months ago. Would have gotten a performance but opted for the third row jump seats for the kids. I was pretty nervous, traded in a Tahoe for it, but the car has blown me away. Beginning with the buying process it seems like over and over again I find myself saying "oh, that's nice."

Charging
I live in a Houston suburb and drive around 85 miles a day round trip not including kids' extracurricular activities. The battery is recommended to sit at 80% max charge for daily use, and I usually end the day around 45% charge. So it's plenty even for a heavy commute.

I average around 675 kWh per month on the car with that driving, so you can figure your "gas" cost there. I have a nights free charging plan, so my electricity / "gas" cost per mile is zero.

I've taken it on two long trips now, used supercharging for both. No issues at all, as with the wife and kids end up stopping more often than you need to charge anyway... The navigation system routes you to the chargers, and there are a surprising amount of them (way more than I thought).

That being said, you need to charge at home. Don't expect to charge it at superchargers all the time. A wall connector is great to push 40 or 50 amps in. For reference, on a 50 amp circuit my car charges at a net rate of 12 kW, so it charges for 2-3 hours each night. If you don't drive quite as much, you can get by with a 220 on a lower amp circuit. Installing the wall connector is not difficult - took me around 3 hours including the panel work and trip to home depot to buy the wire.

Driving
The car is a blast to drive. Just the acceleration is simply fun, and it handles great.

Once you get used to one pedal driving (took me about... a day) it seems dumb driving an ICE car. The pedal is heavy, but that makes it easier to drive one pedal with regen braking. I was nervous about one pedal, needlessly. It was super easy to adjust to.

FSD is a game changer and for me personally well worth the $99/mo. I get in my car, it is already set for my destination (nav learns your habits) and set to cabin temperature automatically, get out of the driveway / out of the gate of the company property, engage autopilot, and generally don't touch the steering wheel til I get home. In Houston traffic. It's good, and it has gotten noticeably better since I got the car. Looking forward to v13.

Misc
I do some work in audio, and am kinda picky about sound systems - this thing sounds better than the Bose system in the Chevy by far (that system really sucked) or the stock VW system. I prefer it to the Audi B&O premium sound system (B&O always sound tinny to me). It does have some tonal similarities to the B&O system, and I read that Tesla had B&O involved in the design - so take that for what its worth. The sub is nice, and the multiband EQ is better than the usual three band you get in most cars.

The user interface is much better than any other car I've had. Very intuitive in a lot of ways. Voice commands work well. The big screen is great.

The car is a little "tweaky" - you have some setup, and there are a lot of options. But once you do it, you don't have to mess with it any more, and the driver profile system works really well. So if it feels overwhelming, just take it easy and dont scroll through all the setup options. Most aren't really necessary.

The model Y itself is the same size as an Audi Q5, if that helps as a reference. The X is the size of a Q8.

It's just a great car. I really enjoy it so far. I think it's probably the best vehicle I've ever owned, which sounds ridiculous and I can't believe I'm saying it. But it's true.
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drumboy said:


I can't see how many chargers are in use (and cars en route) until I'm close to the charger, maybe I'm looking in the wrong place. I might be able to see trends of use before starting the route. Hasn't been an issue yet but I was nervous driving through East Texas the day before Thanksgiving.
That is really strange. I have FSD but that should not matter. When I look at the supercharger map around me, every supercharger avail is lit up and those full turns gray. Click on any supercharger and it tells u the total and number available.

When I route to a destination and need to charge up, it will tell me where to go and status of the supercharger availability.

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Your points are the exact reasons I think it is close to the perfect car for our family eventhough I am probably in the 95% of miles/year driven.

I can name you an endless list of why its better than an ICE car even down to being able watch a football game when its 100 degrees outside while my kid is having soccer practice at 5pm. ICE parents are either having their engines run or outside. I turn my youtube TV one and watch it on a 15 inch screen.

I just had my c-port replaced after a burn out and the tesla guy came to my house, replaced it in 10 minutes, and left. I thought I had a $175 bill but he said he would waive it b/c its on warranty eventhough it likely was my 3rd party cords.

I remember the days of having a broken X5 window regulator, taking it to Service, getting a $1500 bill waiting 4-5 hrs to get it replaced.

Traveling has become a piece of cake with all the superchargers popping up. 3 yrs ago, I would say it was pretty sketchy but My drive from Austin to any major City in Texas typically has atleast 10 superchargers on the way.
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Tesla Model 3 Performance is the most American car at 87.5% domestic content.

Also, since this seems to be the de facto owners' thread, I curbed my driver's front wheel and took a chunk out of the tire. Still holding air, but I think I am going to buy some 18x8.5 wheels and see what I can get for daily driving efficiency.
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Medaggie said:

This is just my opinion after driving over 120K miles. Its an almost flawless car. Did I say I can tow my boat too? The torque is amazing.

But but you can't tow your boat over 500+ miles in less than 30 degree weather with a headwind while driving uphill like my big tough diesel truck can do! Therefore EVs are completely pointless and will never be a real transport option for real drivers.
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Medaggie said:

drumboy said:


I can't see how many chargers are in use (and cars en route) until I'm close to the charger, maybe I'm looking in the wrong place. I might be able to see trends of use before starting the route. Hasn't been an issue yet but I was nervous driving through East Texas the day before Thanksgiving.
That is really strange. I have FSD but that should not matter. When I look at the supercharger map around me, every supercharger avail is lit up and those full turns gray. Click on any supercharger and it tells u the total and number available.

When I route to a destination and need to charge up, it will tell me where to go and status of the supercharger availability.


I see the info once superchargers near me, lemme check to see if it's available when starting the route at one 100 miles away.
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drumboy said:

Medaggie said:

drumboy said:


I can't see how many chargers are in use (and cars en route) until I'm close to the charger, maybe I'm looking in the wrong place. I might be able to see trends of use before starting the route. Hasn't been an issue yet but I was nervous driving through East Texas the day before Thanksgiving.
That is really strange. I have FSD but that should not matter. When I look at the supercharger map around me, every supercharger avail is lit up and those full turns gray. Click on any supercharger and it tells u the total and number available.

When I route to a destination and need to charge up, it will tell me where to go and status of the supercharger availability.


I see the info once superchargers near me, lemme check to see if it's available when starting the route at one 100 miles away.


Why does it matter that a supercharger you can't get to for an hour or more is full or not?
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Tell me more about your boat. I have a 21' pontoon boat on a single axle trailer that I currently tow with my all wheel drive Honda Pilot. This need to tow is one of the things that would give me great pause about switching to a Model Y when the time comes. Maybe I'm wrong though.
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ReloadAg said:

Tell me more about your boat. I have a 21' pontoon boat on a single axle trailer that I currently tow with my all wheel drive Honda Pilot. This need to tow is one of the things that would give me great pause about switching to a Model Y when the time comes. Maybe I'm wrong though.
Model Y tow capacity is 3500lb. My AR250 is 4100 lb so I just tow it a block from the boat ramp to my driveway, Have never done a long distance tow but I am confident it would handle it well without Issues.

I am looking to get a X so i can tow it about 100 miles.

If your pontoon is under 3500 lbs, i don't think it would be a problem at all.
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drumboy said:




I see the info once superchargers near me, lemme check to see if it's available when starting the route at one 100 miles away.
I just checked and this is what I see.

1. If I am looking for superchargers about 1 hr around me, it will tell me how charge rate, how many total, and how many available. Anything over an hour away will not give this information which makes sense because things can change in an hour
2. If I route, it typically will not tell me how many is avail b/c its far away. So when you get close, just look around for superchargers to find how many are avail.

I live in Austin, and I have never went to a supercharger that was full on any of my trips to another major city.
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Wow I didn't know that. Interesting. My pontoon is probably 3500lbs all in. I usually only tow from my house to the storage facility which is about 5 miles and from my house to Lake Austin which is about 10 miles.
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ReloadAg said:

Wow I didn't know that. Interesting. My pontoon is probably 3500lbs all in. I usually only tow from my house to the storage facility which is about 5 miles and from my house to Lake Austin which is about 10 miles.
If that is all you need, then you should be good. I see people tow much higher amounts online without issues so something around 3500 should be easy.
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Traffic heading south on Highways 59 and 77 are proof that tow ratings are merely suggestions.
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Curious any idea when the Model X is supposed to receive a refresh?
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There are nothing official so everything is just speculation. The more important option to have is hardware 4 which does come with the new model X.

Hardware 4 is said to be compatible with the AI FSD version.
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Any Tesla owners have challenging charger installs? My garage is very far from my panel - complete opposite sides of the house.

Seems like everyone I talk to had a very easy installation because their panel is in their garage, only a few feet from where the car will be. Mine is probably over 150' away - just the cost of the wire is going to be pretty expensive.
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Yep, that's like $500 in just the wire if you're running 6/3.
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I did 6 gauge for a short run on 60 amp breaker. Pulling 48 amps. I am wondering if for 150ft, you'll need larger wire or just set it for fewer amps.

How huge is your house that you have 150 feet to traverse? Just tell your butler to call an electrician.
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chap said:

Any Tesla owners have challenging charger installs? My garage is very far from my panel - complete opposite sides of the house.

Seems like everyone I talk to had a very easy installation because their panel is in their garage, only a few feet from where the car will be. Mine is probably over 150' away - just the cost of the wire is going to be pretty expensive.
We recently had a Tesla charger installed in close proximity to the panel. installation cost a bit over $1000 not including the charger. When they were working up the estimate they told me that if they had to run it to the other side of the garage that it would have been about $1700. side walls of a 3-car garage for reference. They also said if the panel was outside or at a completely different part of the house we could be looking at $3000 for installation. Hope that helps. Depending on your miles per year and the comparison ICE vehicle you'll recover that in 1-2 years. I drive about 20K miles/year and I expect to recover my $1500 in one year when you factor in gas, oil changes, etc.
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I did. I had already ordered the car and bought the charger when I found out how expensive it was gonna be. When my electrician told me he was gonna have to go back to the main panel. I was like oh crap that's the opposite corner of my house. He had to run over 200 feet of wire. It could've been less but I didn't want it run on conduit outside of the house so he took it up through the attic. Cost me over $2000. Still glad I did it.
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We've had our Model Y about 2-1/2 months and this week took our first trip in it. This will be long but if someone is following the thread and curious about buying this might be informative.

We drove from College Station to Fredericksburg on Friday for a four day weekend, coming back today. Two couples and associated luggage so a full car. I had done a lot of research on charging in Fredericksburg before we left and I was glad I did. Simply put there's not a lot there, as in no superchargers at all. Several wineries had home chargers or what Tesla calls Destination Chargers onsite for free if you're at their winery. Those add about 40 miles/hour of charging. I only found two paid chargers, one at HEB that was much slower than a Supercharger and one at the event center that was much slower than a home charger. What I learned after we booked was that the VRBO app will let you filter for EV chargers and that's something i'll use in the future. There are a lot of VRBO that have Destination Chargers and that solves everything because you can charge overnight like you're at home.

We left CS with a 100% charged battery. We stopped in Austin for lunch at a place adjacent to a group of superchargers and filled back up to 100%. Not necessary but I didn't want to get there and have to figure out charging immediately. We charged at two different wineries on Saturday just because it was there then didn't charge again until this morning when we were ready to leave. We hit several wineries Friday on the way in and several more Saturday. Sunday we went to Enchanted Rock before parking downtown and walking the rest of the afternoon. My buddy and I took it to breakfast each of the three mornings we were there.

The only frustration really came this morning when trying to charge up to drive back home. The "fast" charger at HEB isn't fast, meaning 50 kW. For reference the Tesla chargers are pushing 150 to 250 depending on their age. It took about an 1:15 to go from 40% to 100% but we both had our laptops and made good use of the time. I got confused by an error message on the charger and thought it wasn't working when it was so we went to the event center and found an awful charger before going back to HEB and finding out it was actually working fine. Our plan had been to set the car to charge and walk to breakfast and had I known it was actually working that would have been perfect. We drove home without issue and arrived with about 25% left including a detour in Austin to pick up something for our daughter.

As to driving it was fantastic. My wife has a 2015 Cadillac SRX and to me it was comparable to that car as far as road manners. Smooth and powerful with confident handling. A very good driving experience. I have the full self driving and used it for probably 80% of the highway miles and 40% of the Austin and Fredericksburg miles. I'm not confident yet in how it will handle around town stuff but it was flawless for very long stretches of highway even when it was misting Friday and today. During the 90 or so miles from CS to Austin I bet I didn't intervene twice. Same experience from Austin to Fredericksburg. We kept commenting on how incredible the system is.

My $.02 for those considering a Tesla is that if your life revolves around your home town and you can install a home charger it's an easy yes. I work from home but if I had to commute each day i would just charge at home each night and it would be great. Not sure I've had a better car and now that the first trip is behind me I won't even flinch at taking it out of town.
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Yeah, I frequently go to Fredericksburg for work and I am very surprised that there are no superchargers there by now.

Good to know about VRBO.
 
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