That's pretty wild. Interesting to see how this plays out.

BREAKING: Japanese auto giants Honda Motor and Nissan Motor will enter negotiations for a merger and join their resources to better compete against bigger global electric vehicle makers, per the Nikkei.

— unusual_whales (@unusual_whales) December 17, 2024

Will be watching this with interest. Could be a great move for Nissan.

EMY92 said:

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What would it do for Honda?

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Nothing much, honestly. Marginally higher market share I suppose.

drumboy said:

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MouthBQ98 said:

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Nissan makes some sports cars and trucks that Honda doesn't, and some of the non-US Nissan trucks and SUV are very popular in Asia and Australia. There are market segments and technologies to be gained and shared.

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Nissan makes the Patrol too, which is arriving now in QX80 form.

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It's also being released as the Armada in the US. And the new Armada will be much more similar to the Patrol than the 2nd gen was.

Dr. Nefario said:

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drumboy said:

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MouthBQ98 said:

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Nissan makes some sports cars and trucks that Honda doesn't, and some of the non-US Nissan trucks and SUV are very popular in Asia and Australia. There are market segments and technologies to be gained and shared.

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Nissan makes the Patrol too, which is arriving now in QX80 form.

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It's also being released as the Armada in the US. And the new Armada will be much more similar to the Patrol than the 2nd gen was.

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Sweet. drumgirl wants the new QX80 but I'd prefer a new GX or (another) used LX570.

The new QX80 does look legit.

Got rid of the tried and true V-8, now a turbo V-6 with same fuel efficiency and slower.

P.H. Dexippus said:

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Got rid of the tried and true V-8, now a turbo V-6 with same fuel efficiency and slower.

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Wrong on both counts. As much as I lament the demise of the 5.6L, the TTV6 Armada has improved fuel economy and is significantly quicker than the outgoing V8 models. Long-term reliability is where the new engine will likely fall short.

EMY92 said:

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What would it do for Honda?

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Well Hondas tend to be boring as hell. Their interiors are especially bland. In a perfect world, Nissan might improve their reliability and Honda might learn how to make a more interesting looking vehicle. Also, Honda has never been much at making offroad vehicles. Nissan has had some success at that.

With Nissan killing their truck, y'all can now get Nissan Ridgelines though.

It also looks like Honda is bringing back the Prelude to try and liven up their lineup. It's a hybrid.

We bought a Nissan Kicks, after not being able to find a Juke on her (very impatient) timeline.

Unfortunately, I wasn't watching Scotty Kilmer videos yet about these trash CVTs at the time of purchase.

We were just told we needed a new transmission because of a faulty solenoid. We can't find anyone willing to just replace the solenoid because of the complex design of the transaxle and legal liability.

This is a 2018 RX 350 with 65k miles.

I'm starting to think all Asian car mfg reliability is bull*****

I'm guessing that much of the quality issues are related to the pursuit of higher mileage due to government regulations. When a reliability mainstay like Toyota has the problem they just had with the Tundra engine, it's easy to believe in an overall decline. I'm no mechanic but here are the main trends I see over the last 10 years across multiple brands:

1-problems with any transmission more complex than a five speed automatic
2-problems keeping the fluid systems separated in high-pressure engines. Fuel/oil/coolant.
3-problems with complexity or durability of engine management computers
4-the mysterious difficulty in getting white paint to stick for a long time
5-problems with the mechanical side of more complex engines, such as cam phasers, lifters, cylinder shut-off systems.

This may be an anecdote but Toyota and Lexus are fanatical about the customer feedback on their cars. And eventually they fix the problems, as much as they can.

With the release of these new engines; turbo, hybrid etc, we should expect issues, of course no fatal defects.

But if I have an expectation that one manufacturer will get it right, I have more faith in Toyota than any other brands.

I don't know...Prius was a massive gamble experiment by Toyota and I have to think they finally got it right, with the last improvement being the design.

North Dallas. I got recs for four and none of them would touch it sans full replacement. Cheapest quote I got was $7,500. Dealer was $12k.

Edit: NADA was $25k. We were going to need a slightly larger car in the next year or two due to family size so we traded it in while the issue was still intermittent. It's hard for me to not generalize and write off Toyota as we bought it used expecting to get 7-10 years out of it.

MRB10 said:

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North Dallas. I got recs for four and none of them would touch it sans full replacement. Cheapest quote I got was $7,500. Dealer was $12k.

Edit: NADA was $25k. We were going to need a slightly larger car in the next year or two due to family size so we traded it in while the issue was still intermittent. It's hard for me to not generalize and write off Toyota as we bought it used expecting to get 7-10 years out of it.

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Dude that sucks. Even as a Toyota fan boy, it'd be enough for me to swear off Toyota.... Except, with the prices being quoted, I'd just go in, drop the transmission pan.. And replace the solenoid myself.

Looks like it's a $300 part. But I don't know if theres one or 10 solenoids.

Disclaimer, I don't know enough about this.. So I'm talking out of my ass. But I know someone here on the autoboard would tell me to STFU then probably proceed to help you DIY.

Yeah… this sort of fix is way out of my comfort zone. I'm somewhat capable when it comes to vehicle maintenance but I would have wanted to pay someone who does this sort of thing more regularly.

That could have been a person from TexAgs but it's too late for that now.