Is there another purchase that feels like a waste of money

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more than tires? I had to get new tires for my car today and it occurred to me that there's nothing I buy that feels like a bigger waste of money...and I had season tickets during the Fran years.

At least with other purchases, you get some form of gratification from it, no matter how small. With tires, I'm like "I can drive the same speed but for more miles now." At least with gas, I get the satisfaction of seeing the gauge read "F".
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Only when I ended up totalling the truck 4 months into a brand new set... Otherwise tires generally last me 40-50,000 miles or so.
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Maybe you're buying the wrong tires.

When I buy a good set of Michelins or other highly rated tires for my wife or daughter, I have the satisfaction of knowing they are safer in adverse conditions. I research the hell out of those purchases on tire rack looking for the best wet stopping distance and the highest resistance to hydro-planing.

When I buy AT tires for my 4x4 truck there is just as much research but there is also some gratification from the look of an aggressive AT tire.

When I buy tires for my EVO they are often the next big thing in 200TW street/track tires and I've started paying tire rack to heat cycle them for me so when I get them mounted I can see they are going to make me at least 0.5 sec quicker around the track

So you're either buying the wrong tires, or you're not a car -guy?
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I hate spending money on tires but I only buy the best available and I always replace them before any chance at getting bald.

It's the only thing separating you from the pavement. I'm glad I can do it that way too.

I've had blowouts with crappy tires. I've had tires that are absolute crap in the rain. Never again. I hate the feeling.
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Funny how buying tires feels like a waste of money, but most people don't mind overpaying for a utilitarian, rapidly depreciating, item like an automobile.
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I love buying tires. Even now that I'm running 4 vehicles again, I only have to do it once a year at most.

Spending somewhere between $800-$1500 is well worth it to know that I'm going to be able to stop/go/turn and handle conditions for the next 4 years or so.

Now if you want to talk about a real waste of money that I used to spend much more on and pay much more frequently - California gas tax. I'm glad to be back in Texas these days.

https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/state/state-gas-tax-rates-2024/
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The smell of new tires is one of my favorites. Stroking that yearly check to the county for property taxes is my least favorite expense.
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Roger350 said:

Maybe you're buying the wrong tires.

When I buy a good set of Michelins or other highly rated tires for my wife or daughter, I have the satisfaction of knowing they are safer in adverse conditions. I research the hell out of those purchases on tire rack looking for the best wet stopping distance and the highest resistance to hydro-planing.

When I buy AT tires for my 4x4 truck there is just as much research but there is also some gratification from the look of an aggressive AT tire.

When I buy tires for my EVO they are often the next big thing in 200TW street/track tires and I've started paying tire rack to heat cycle them for me so when I get them mounted I can see they are going to make me at least 0.5 sec quicker around the track

So you're either buying the wrong tires, or you're not a car -guy?

So, because I get no real satisfaction on spending almost $1500 for a set of tires for an Accord I'm not a car guy? You sound just like a stereotypical car forum guy with an over inflated ego and sense of self-worth. If you're not checking their tread depth everyday before leaving, how can you work knowing you're potentially leaving them on side of the road?

But the point still remains, there's no real sense of satisfaction with buying tires. You can try to tell yourself it's for the safety of loved ones to make you feel more like a man, but there are so many other things that don't drain your wallet and a few hours out of a weekend that will scratch that itch.

If you're getting new wheels and larger tires to achieve a look, or track tires or something, yeah. But for an everyday vehicle? Nah.
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Ag for Life said:

The smell of new tires is one of my favorites. Stroking that yearly check to the county for property taxes is my least favorite expense.

Yeah, property taxes and homeowners insurance are right there with them, especially when you don't escrow.
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If you drive a relatively high performance vehicle, new tires are instantly noticeable and enjoyable. Plus the fun you can have with the old tires right before you get rid of them.
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I love going into Costco and smelling all that new rubber over in the tire section!

I don't like spending money on tires but I actually enjoy the feeling of new rubber on my car stinking up my garage and knowing my family is a bit safer going down the road.
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How are you spending $1,500 on tires for an Accord?
Shouldn't those be like $200 a piece?
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aTm2004 said:

Roger350 said:

Maybe you're buying the wrong tires.

When I buy a good set of Michelins or other highly rated tires for my wife or daughter, I have the satisfaction of knowing they are safer in adverse conditions. I research the hell out of those purchases on tire rack looking for the best wet stopping distance and the highest resistance to hydro-planing.

When I buy AT tires for my 4x4 truck there is just as much research but there is also some gratification from the look of an aggressive AT tire.

When I buy tires for my EVO they are often the next big thing in 200TW street/track tires and I've started paying tire rack to heat cycle them for me so when I get them mounted I can see they are going to make me at least 0.5 sec quicker around the track

So you're either buying the wrong tires, or you're not a car -guy?

So, because I get no real satisfaction on spending almost $1500 for a set of tires for an Accord I'm not a car guy? You sound just like a stereotypical car forum guy with an over inflated ego and sense of self-worth. If you're not checking their tread depth everyday before leaving, how can you work knowing you're potentially leaving them on side of the road?

But the point still remains, there's no real sense of satisfaction with buying tires. You can try to tell yourself it's for the safety of loved ones to make you feel more like a man, but there are so many other things that don't drain your wallet and a few hours out of a weekend that will scratch that itch.

If you're getting new wheels and larger tires to achieve a look, or track tires or something, yeah. But for an everyday vehicle? Nah.


You sound pissed.

What tire are you spending on an accord? I mean if you're spending $1500 on a set of tires for an accord… I guess your attitude makes sense.

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GAC06 said:

If you drive a relatively high performance vehicle, new tires are instantly noticeable and enjoyable. Plus the fun you can have with the old tires right before you get rid of them.
Back when I graduated A&M, I was daily driving a Vette and didn't want to do so in Houston traffic, so I found a cheap '98 Frontier at a local dealership that was willing to let it go for $3k, so I bought it. This thing was about as bare bones as you could get in a truck (vinyl seats/floors, no power steering, windows, or locks). About the only good thing about it was it was a 5-speed and the AC was probably the same one they would eventually put in those NV vans because it's 2 settings was arctic circle or Texas summer...there was no in between.

Anyway, I put some expensive unidirectional tires on the Vette and $80 Walmart specials on the Frontier, and I had the same "eh" reaction with each. The Vette still rode like a Vette and the Frontier still rode like a 7 year old $3k truck. I literally got more satisfaction changing the hubcaps on the Frontier because I may or may not have put one on incorrectly when I did a brake job on it.

Maybe it's just me and people do like to buy tires, so I called my old roommate from A&M on the way back from Discount to see if he felt the same, and he did. Now, not sure what Roger's definition of a car guy is, but his current vehicle lineup is a Volvo V60 Polestar, Denali HD, and AMG GT-C. In the past 10 years, he's had 2 M5s, a 911 GTS, 911 TurboS, AMG GT, and a C63S. His house has a 4-bay garage is literally the same size as the house it's attached to, complete with 2 story ceilings, air conditioning, and a 2 post lift in one of the interior bays. But he's single, so no selling family safety to himself.
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HollywoodBQ said:

How are you spending $1,500 on tires for an Accord?
Shouldn't those be like $200 a piece?
The tires that are $200/per are only 30-40k mile tires. I drive about 80 miles round trip when I go into the office, so I bought a tire with a 65k mile warranty (Michelin Defenders) that were $260/tire. Add in Discount's protection (which I got because I drive across Houston), their disposal fee, and taxes, it was sitting just over $1400. I could have gotten the OEM Goodyears that would have been about $100/tire less, but those barely made 40k miles. There were cheaper options, but $1000 was the floor, and I chose a tire that I thought was best for my commute.

I rotate my tires each time I change my oil (5-6k miles). I knew this was coming with my previous rotation, but I was hoping I'd get to 45k or 50k before needing to pull the trigger. Guess not. Such is life.

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Bob Kelso said:

aTm2004 said:

Roger350 said:

Maybe you're buying the wrong tires.

When I buy a good set of Michelins or other highly rated tires for my wife or daughter, I have the satisfaction of knowing they are safer in adverse conditions. I research the hell out of those purchases on tire rack looking for the best wet stopping distance and the highest resistance to hydro-planing.

When I buy AT tires for my 4x4 truck there is just as much research but there is also some gratification from the look of an aggressive AT tire.

When I buy tires for my EVO they are often the next big thing in 200TW street/track tires and I've started paying tire rack to heat cycle them for me so when I get them mounted I can see they are going to make me at least 0.5 sec quicker around the track

So you're either buying the wrong tires, or you're not a car -guy?

So, because I get no real satisfaction on spending almost $1500 for a set of tires for an Accord I'm not a car guy? You sound just like a stereotypical car forum guy with an over inflated ego and sense of self-worth. If you're not checking their tread depth everyday before leaving, how can you work knowing you're potentially leaving them on side of the road?

But the point still remains, there's no real sense of satisfaction with buying tires. You can try to tell yourself it's for the safety of loved ones to make you feel more like a man, but there are so many other things that don't drain your wallet and a few hours out of a weekend that will scratch that itch.

If you're getting new wheels and larger tires to achieve a look, or track tires or something, yeah. But for an everyday vehicle? Nah.


You sound pissed.

What tire are you spending on an accord? I mean if you're spending $1500 on a set of tires for an accord… I guess your attitude makes sense.


I'm not pissed. Just find it funny that he perfectly encompassed a stereotypical internet car guy in such a short post. Ever go to YouTube to search for how to do something and find an 8 minute video that's 6 minutes of the person tooting their own horn and trying to sound smart and 2 minutes actually showing you how to fix the problem? That's who he reminds me of.
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aTm2004 said:

Roger350 said:

Maybe you're buying the wrong tires.

When I buy a good set of Michelins or other highly rated tires for my wife or daughter, I have the satisfaction of knowing they are safer in adverse conditions. I research the hell out of those purchases on tire rack looking for the best wet stopping distance and the highest resistance to hydro-planing.

When I buy AT tires for my 4x4 truck there is just as much research but there is also some gratification from the look of an aggressive AT tire.

When I buy tires for my EVO they are often the next big thing in 200TW street/track tires and I've started paying tire rack to heat cycle them for me so when I get them mounted I can see they are going to make me at least 0.5 sec quicker around the track

So you're either buying the wrong tires, or you're not a car -guy?

So, because I get no real satisfaction on spending almost $1500 for a set of tires for an Accord I'm not a car guy? You sound just like a stereotypical car forum guy with an over inflated ego and sense of self-worth. If you're not checking their tread depth everyday before leaving, how can you work knowing you're potentially leaving them on side of the road?

But the point still remains, there's no real sense of satisfaction with buying tires. You can try to tell yourself it's for the safety of loved ones to make you feel more like a man, but there are so many other things that don't drain your wallet and a few hours out of a weekend that will scratch that itch.

If you're getting new wheels and larger tires to achieve a look, or track tires or something, yeah. But for an everyday vehicle? Nah.


Wow, I was not trying to upset you. Sometimes you have to look for the positive even when you are spending a significant amount of money on something you'd rather not.

If it makes you feel "better" I just spent $800 for tires for my daughter and after 1500 miles the car took a total dump. Probably not getting that money back, and it wasn't a risky purchase, like why am pouring this kind of money into a bad car. Just bad luck. Maybe I'll find a replacement that has the same wheel size and has crappy old tires and I can swap them over.

This is a car forum, the standard jab when anyone complains about anything is maybe you're not a car guy. I meant nothing personal by it.

No ego tripping here. Just sharing my perspective on how to elicit some satisfaction from a necessary evil.

Hope your day gets better.
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GAC06 said:

If you drive a relatively high performance vehicle, new tires are instantly noticeable and enjoyable. Plus the fun you can have with the old tires right before you get rid of them.

+1
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I'm not upset, but there is some venting if I'm being honest with myself because tires are like the one thing I really don't get any kind of satisfaction of buying. I'd probably feel differently if I could get out for $400, but those days are gone. Sorry that you were the target of that venting.

Sucks to hear about the car. I bought this Accord a few years ago because my previous Edge crapped out on me. I went up to my buddy's place and did a complete brake job on it (rotors, pads, fluid), and as I'm sitting at a red light on the way home, I get an alert telling my I have low oil pressure. I pull over and check the oil and it's fine, so I know it's a sensor. I dropped it off at a local shop I've used for years and they thought so to, but 2 new sensors didn't fix it. They did a pressure check on the engine and found it didn't have adequate oil pressure at idle. They said they could fix it, but the cost would be more than it's worth, so they offered to bandaid it so I could trade it in, which is the option I chose.
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Razors.
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I'm betting your vette with new tires drove like a vette with new tires and your vette with old tires drove like a vette with old tires.
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Because I work in construction zones, the money I spend on the Discount Tire warranty is probably the best ROI of anything I will ever invest in.

I hate spending money on new tires but I really like having new tires.
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Rough, loud, and fun? Yep.
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aTm2004 said:

Rough, loud, and fun? Yep.
thanks for the explanation on the Accord tires

On the Vette, you must not have been driving fast enough.

Next time, I-45 from Beltway 8 to Galveston.

Or... The 15 from Baker, CA to Primm, NV. You'll definitely get your money's worth.
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I spend ~$1200 per year on tires for the Hellcat and enjoy every penny.
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But to the OP's question: homeowners insurance. That feels like lighting money on fire.
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HollywoodBQ said:

aTm2004 said:

Rough, loud, and fun? Yep.
thanks for the explanation on the Accord tires

On the Vette, you must not have been driving fast enough.

Next time, I-45 from Beltway 8 to Galveston.

Or... The 15 from Baker, CA to Primm, NV. You'll definitely get your money's worth.

Made it from Galveston to College station in about 1.5 hours in the fall of '03 on a GSX-R, above mentioned buddy on a R1, and a couple girls on CBRs. Not my smartest choice in life, but the Pierce elevated was fun.
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Tires are the most part on the entire vehicle. Have you tried driving without them?
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aTm2004 said:

HollywoodBQ said:

aTm2004 said:

Rough, loud, and fun? Yep.
thanks for the explanation on the Accord tires

On the Vette, you must not have been driving fast enough.

Next time, I-45 from Beltway 8 to Galveston.

Or... The 15 from Baker, CA to Primm, NV. You'll definitely get your money's worth.

Made it from Galveston to College station in about 1.5 hours in the fall of '03 on a GSX-R, above mentioned buddy on a R1, and a couple girls on CBRs. Not my smartest choice in life, but the Pierce elevated was fun.
Holy Crap.

I will confess to making it from my parents house on the McGregor side of Waco to my house in Galveston in 3 1/2 hours a couple weeks ago in my BMW 760Li. Eventually, I'm probably going to wind up in jail driving that car.

It's as fast or faster than the E46 M3 I had in SoCal in the mid-2000s and way more comfortable. That super stiff clutch in the M3 was my only real complaint.
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I love buying tires. It's like getting a new pair of shoes, always feels good.
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I'm an adult. I don't give important purchases like this a second thought.
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I think OP is still upset about his ruined shirt
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There's nothing prettier than a new set of mud tires
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That stretch of 45, 290 north of Cypress to 6, and then a lot of 6, we were probably 110-120 average with some springs beyond that in a few places. Our slowest for sure was between 610 getting through downtown and the cluster that was, but it was late on a Sunday, so not as bad as it could have been.

Again, not the smartest thing I've done in my life, and although I still love motorcycles, I don't see myself ever owning one again.

That 760 probably makes it hard to tell if you're going 70 or 100. I will probably never own a German car, but I get why people love them when I drive one.
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I haven't read the replies yet, I was so eager to reply to OP.

I absolutely LOVE buying quality tires. They can transform the driving experience.
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