New 2025 F250 Wheel Explosion- Blowout

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Wow... there's not a chance in hell this was a casting or manufacturing flaw. It's pretty clear from looking at the pictures for about 2 seconds, that's not anywhere near what a failed wheel would look like. You ran over something that punctured the tire then the wheel, made it about 135 degrees around the wheels rotation and was flung through the wheel well.
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No idea what happened...BUT I was driving down I-20 and had a sudden "blowout" along with a louder than normal boom. I pulled over and started to change the tire and get the spare down, opened the tailgate to get into my tool box and noticed a piece of rebar stuck to the inside of my tailgate!
It was a piece of 6" rebar that I had apparently ran over, which went into the tire, then shot straight through my truck bed and lodged into the tailgate! So I now have a hole in my truck bed and my tailgate.
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Every time I check this thread this morning, I think of Keith Hernandez spitting on Kramer.
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whatever you do, make sure you get the best price from 10 tires shops and parts departments.
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meggy09 said:

Wow... there's not a chance in hell this was a casting or manufacturing flaw. It's pretty clear from looking at the pictures for about 2 seconds, that's not anywhere near what a failed wheel would look like. You ran over something that punctured the tire then the wheel, made it about 135 degrees around the wheels rotation and was flung through the wheel well.
yeah, after looking at it on my laptop and not on my phone, i can see the shaping better.

he ran over something and towards the top of the revolution it was shot through his wheel well.
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Doug,

I know on my 2017, the factory bedliner is fairly slick where as the aftermarket have more stickiness. It is also has a little more gloss. Is there a brand you recommend for patching?
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https://www.reddit.com/r/AskMechanics/comments/14wnva4/what_causes_stuff_like_this/


I guess report(s) on that thread sound similar enough to show this isn't completely unprecedented.

In looking at the hole in the wheel, it's hard for me to tell which way it is deformed. If I had to guess it looks a bit deformed towards the inside of the wheel, meaning something came in through the tire and then into wheel. The holes in wheel well and bed, metal deformation at the edge of the holes show something came from inside the wheel well out through the bed - shot from tire up through the bed.

The photo in the reddit thread looks more clear as far as the puncture in the wheel itself, it's bowed out towards the middle of the wheel which would indicate more clearly to me that something can from the tire side. The wheel photo in the OP's post shows a cleaner break of metal but upon reinspection the surrounding metal does appear to be a bit bubbled towards middle of wheel which again would indicate something came through tire and then through the wheel.

Regarding meggy09's theory - ran over something that punctured the tire then the wheel, made it about 135 degrees around the wheels rotation and was flung through the wheel well - my initial thought was wouldn't there be TWO holes in the tire then? Something passes through outer tire, busts through but lodges in metal of wheel, then flung back out due to centrifugal force puncturing tire AGAIN then wheel well and bed.

But no, not NECESSARILY a second hole of the object was longer.

I could picture a thin piece of metal, at least 12" long, lying parallel to the road lines. Meaning the truck's front left wheel drives over the entire length of the piece of metal. When front left wheel reaches end of the piece of metal it pops up just the back end of the metal - like / but less of an agle - then back wheel hits it in a magical way that leads to it penetrating the tire and wheel. It's long enough to be in both holes at once (HEY now) and then get's ejected through bed after a quarter or half rotation. Only one tire hole because it's a longer piece of metal.

I can at least picture that, don't know what other scenarios would explain it given the wheel puncture location and size (which is bigger than other holes btw, based on aluminum fracturing characteristics potentially) and angle of departure of the object.

It is scare to think of the velocity of that object and, IF truly flung by the rotating tire, what would have happened if it was angled toward the cab of the truck.
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If road debris caused this then there should be more damage ( scraping, scratching etc) than some fairly pin point holes in wheel , tire, and bed.
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mm98 said:

Aston 91 said:

That is bizarre. Many moons ago I worked as a reliability engineer in a chemical plant and did quite a bit of root cause failure analysis on pumps, turbines, compressors etc. We saw some strange failure modes, but nothing like this. I'd guess manufacturing defect led to a fatigue failure of the wheel, but that's just a guess.
You think maybe it was a weld repair on the wheel that got broke loose and flung up through the tire and the bed ?

I know that's a huge reach
Now that I'm looking at the hole in the wheel on my computer instead of my phone, it does look like the hole is bowed inward (i.e. toward the center of the wheel). That would make it much more likely that road debris caused it, but it's surprising there isn't more damage besides these fairly small holes in the tire, wheel, and bed. Maybe Complete Idiot's theory about a piece long enough to make only one hole in the tire is correct. But I'd add that if one end of the piece was sticking out of the tire, the portion that was sticking out likely broke off as the tire rotated and the piece made contact with the road. If the portion sticking out just bent, it wouldn't have made such a small hole in the bed.
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And this is why I spend too much time laughing at dumb Reddit posts:

Redditor #1:
Sure looks like it got impaled straight through the tire and rim.
Could be basically anything >4" long and relatively strong.
A tool that fell off a truck, random trash like a piece of pipe/bar/tube, someone's indestructible survival pen, etc.
If it's not still inside the tire, it might have flung out inside your wheel well.

Redditor #2:
Screenshotting this comment to post on my tinder to let girls know that 4 inches can do some damage
Complete Idiot
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HA! I just kind of looked at the photo and thought "yeah, that's similar" - I didn't read much there.
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fixer said:

If road debris caused this then there should be more damage ( scraping, scratching etc) than some fairly pin point holes in wheel , tire, and bed.
I agree, and of course already immediately second guessing details in earlier theories. If it's a long object and gets propelled by centrifugal force I also don't see how it creates a small hole like entire object shot straight through like an arrow, it would have some lateral movement that I would think would create more of a tear than just a bullet hole-like puncture.

Very weird
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meggy09 said:

Wow... there's not a chance in hell this was a casting or manufacturing flaw. It's pretty clear from looking at the pictures for about 2 seconds, that's not anywhere near what a failed wheel would look like. You ran over something that punctured the tire then the wheel, made it about 135 degrees around the wheels rotation and was flung through the wheel well.
Exactly what the dealership said. I'm reserving judgement until we have time to break down the tire/ wheel.
Sticker shock on the price of a new wheel, but at least they should be able to get it in Next Week. lol.

Not sure why Ford can't get a new wheel in sooner. Seems like someone had a set of takeoff KR wheels for sale recently. Decided to just patch the hole as Doug suggested.

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Maybe discount tire left the parking brake on…
Juan Lee Pettimore
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As you passed under an over pass, someone from above fired one round, down through your bed and into your wheel/tire.
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Juan Lee Pettimore said:

As you passed under an over pass, someone from above fired one round, down through your bed and into your wheel/tire.

The hole in the bed negates this theory immediately as whatever went through the bed obviously entered from below not above.
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Ag for Life said:

Juan Lee Pettimore said:

As you passed under an over pass, someone from above fired one round, down through your bed and into your wheel/tire.

The hole in the bed negates this theory immediately as whatever went through the bed obviously entered from below not above.


So you're saying there were multiple shooters ?
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One on the grassy Knoll
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redag06 said:

Ag for Life said:

Juan Lee Pettimore said:

As you passed under an over pass, someone from above fired one round, down through your bed and into your wheel/tire.

The hole in the bed negates this theory immediately as whatever went through the bed obviously entered from below not above.


So you're saying there were multiple shooters ?

Anything is possible!
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StillNotAnAggie
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For a point of reference, and a very long short story for another time, this is what your truck looks like when it gets shot. Although this one is from the inside...
EMY92
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You're supposed to do this outside of the truck.

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Complete Idiot said:

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskMechanics/comments/14wnva4/what_causes_stuff_like_this/


I guess report(s) on that thread sound similar enough to show this isn't completely unprecedented.

In looking at the hole in the wheel, it's hard for me to tell which way it is deformed. If I had to guess it looks a bit deformed towards the inside of the wheel, meaning something came in through the tire and then into wheel. The holes in wheel well and bed, metal deformation at the edge of the holes show something came from inside the wheel well out through the bed - shot from tire up through the bed.

The photo in the reddit thread looks more clear as far as the puncture in the wheel itself, it's bowed out towards the middle of the wheel which would indicate more clearly to me that something can from the tire side. The wheel photo in the OP's post shows a cleaner break of metal but upon reinspection the surrounding metal does appear to be a bit bubbled towards middle of wheel which again would indicate something came through tire and then through the wheel.

Regarding meggy09's theory - ran over something that punctured the tire then the wheel, made it about 135 degrees around the wheels rotation and was flung through the wheel well - my initial thought was wouldn't there be TWO holes in the tire then? Something passes through outer tire, busts through but lodges in metal of wheel, then flung back out due to centrifugal force puncturing tire AGAIN then wheel well and bed.

But no, not NECESSARILY a second hole of the object was longer.

I could picture a thin piece of metal, at least 12" long, lying parallel to the road lines. Meaning the truck's front left wheel drives over the entire length of the piece of metal. When front left wheel reaches end of the piece of metal it pops up just the back end of the metal - like / but less of an agle - then back wheel hits it in a magical way that leads to it penetrating the tire and wheel. It's long enough to be in both holes at once (HEY now) and then get's ejected through bed after a quarter or half rotation. Only one tire hole because it's a longer piece of metal.

I can at least picture that, don't know what other scenarios would explain it given the wheel puncture location and size (which is bigger than other holes btw, based on aluminum fracturing characteristics potentially) and angle of departure of the object.

It is scare to think of the velocity of that object and, IF truly flung by the rotating tire, what would have happened if it was angled toward the cab of the truck.


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That picture makes my ears ring.
StillNotAnAggie
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Me too. For like 3 days.
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I worked in a factory through HS & A&M breaks.

The plant manager played on Baylor's CWS team in the 70s. He worked for a chain of convenience stores while in college, he would go from store to store collecting money in the company's little Datsun pickup. He carried a .32 with him. One day, he was going to a store a the worst part of town and remembered that he hadn't loaded the gun. So, he's driving down the road while loading the gun.

BANG!!! He shot the A-pillar, the bullet ricocheted off of the windshield, then off the passenger window, then hit him gently in the side and landed on the seat. His ears were ringing. But, he didn't want anyone to know what happened, so he took one of those little sticky calendars and put it over the hole in the A-pillar trim.
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I left my 6mm Remington in my truck while taking a break on the last day of deer season this year. It started storming so I decided to pack it all in and head home. I started to leave and realized I didn't unload my gun. It was sitting in my passenger floorboard so I reached over and when I turned off the safety it went off. Thru my passenger headrest, thru the headliner above the back window and thru the roof the the carport I was parked under.

I know it was stupid to unload it in my truck, I think sometimes we just get complacent, and this was one of those times. I drove straight to a gunsmith and told him to do whatever to fix it. He told me it needed a new trigger, it was recalled, but mine was older than the recall, and it was expensive. I told him it wasn't more than the hole in my truck and I'd pick it up eventually. It has the new trigger but I still haven't shot it.

TLDR: Be smart around firearms and don't be dumb.
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Yeah Remington had a big recall because of their triggers. Glad you weren't hurt
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Yep. The sear would trip with the safety on which basically turned the safety into a push-button start.
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That is insane!
Mas89
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Still waiting for the new wheel to come in to Planet Ford in Humble. Ordered last Monday. Offered to pay extra freight to get it asap. Can't be good for the truck with the 18 spare on one side and 20 wheel on the other. Why isn't the spare a 20?

Ford part system sucks.
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As long as the circumference of the spare matches regular tires, it will be okay.


That's a $90k plus pickup, right?
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ttha_aggie_09 said:

Yeah Remington had a big recall because of their triggers. Glad you weren't hurt


Yeah i have the same rifle snd had the trigger replaced after watching a TV piece on it years ago.
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The new wheel finally came in so we looked inside to find nothing but shredded rubber. Whatever went in came completely out. The new wheel thru Ford was$1,187 and with the tire and taxes 1,641. The body shop estimate was 650 when they have time to get it in. Did not claim on insurance.
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Let us know if they find a 308 shell case inside the rim when they break it down
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