AustinCountyAg said:

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While vehicle prices have gotten absolutely stupid high I think the biggest problem, which is danced around in the article is the fact people keep rolling negative equity on simply keeping up with jones'. It's one thing to buy an $85k vehicle, but it's another when you trade it in simply for getting something newer. Very few people these days keep vehicles for more than 5 years. Something like 65% of new car buys trade them in under 6 years old.

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HollywoodBQ said:

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This negative equity business is why I enjoy watching Benzs and Bowties so much.
https://texags.com/forums/46/topics/3582720/replies

The more "negative" the more expensive the Benz.

Side note - you can spend over $200k on a G-Wagen these days.

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MouthBQ98 said:

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I drive old high mileage but reliable beaters that seem to be in the shop only a tiny fraction of the time all these new rides are

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See, THIS is the real issue here. At one point, you could easily justify a $400 car payment because it was going to save you a trip to the shop every 2-4 months to spend...$800-1200. Or, at least, $2500 a year. In other words, you were avoiding paying, say, $6000 a year for a new, reliable, vehicle to pay half that on something you didn't even want to drive out of town (don't ask me how I know that).

But since Covid, there are very few vehicles now, at any price, you can buy new that aren't total POSs. I add makes that I've preferred, including Toyota and Honda, to that list. If it isn't a new generation turbo with issues, it is a CVT.

You would think that the car makers would be happy with a NA 300-hp V6 that gets 22/26 but for some idiotic reason, they aren't. They INSIST on squeezing everything out of a 4 they can, whether it works or not. Regulations are part of that, but not all of it.

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maverick2076 said:

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Serious question: have you considered leasing? Unless you are a high mileage driver, it's literally built for your use case

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idAg09 said:

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What new family vehicle do you think will make it 10+ years now? I also think this will be a major problem

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I just think it is unfortunate that we in the USA are forced to buy needlessly expensive models with less reliable drive trains and loaded with redundant technology to our cell phones that goes obsolete snd seems to break or fail more often. It's frustrating to watch foreign nations get what I consider much better vehicle choices from some manufacturers.

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idAg09 said:

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What new family vehicle do you think will make it 10+ years now? I also think this will be a major problem

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• '88 F-150 extended cab with the inline-6 and dual gas tanks. Stick shift. 4x2
• '90's era F-150 extended cab with the baby V-8. Stick shift. 4x2
• '03 FX4 F-150 with the Triton 5.4L. First automatic vehicle in my life
• '13 FX4 F-150 ecoboost. All the bells and whistles
• '19 Tundra TRD with the 5.7

AustinCountyAg said:

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While vehicle prices have gotten absolutely stupid high I think the biggest problem, which is danced around in the article is the fact people keep rolling negative equity on simply keeping up with jones'. It's one thing to buy an $85k vehicle, but it's another when you trade it in simply for getting something newer. Very few people these days keep vehicles for more than 5 years. Something like 65% of new car buys trade them in under 6 years old.

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HollywoodBQ said:

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I just think it is unfortunate that we in the USA are forced to buy needlessly expensive models with less reliable drive trains and loaded with redundant technology to our cell phones that goes obsolete snd seems to break or fail more often. It's frustrating to watch foreign nations get what I consider much better vehicle choices from some manufacturers.

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In Australia, we did get cars from places like Spain and France and Italy which we don't get as much of, or at all in the US. And of course the Proton cars from Malaysia and some JDM imports.

Here in the USA, you can buy a Roxor Jeep at a tractor dealership these days.

I'm curious what redundant technology you're talking about between your car and your cell phone?
Is it just navigation and Internet that you're talking about or is there something else?

I did get a laugh last year when my Aggie 2017 daughter figured out that if she used the navigation built into her car, she didn't have to screw around with her phone while she was driving. I tried to tell her that but... some things they just have to figure out on their own.

Of course the navigation in my 2020 Jeep is impossible to program while the vehicle is moving.

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