I tend to try to not overdo it on processed sugary starches in general, being pre-diabetic, but when i go any more than a few days with ZERO carbs I get really fuzzy mentally and start feeling dumb. Make stupid mistakes at work. Can't focus as well. By ZERO carbs I mean none. Only meat. No vegetables, beans, or milk. I realize those have a lot of fiber but even green vegetables have sugars in them and beans have a lot of carbs from starch. You have to REALLY dig into labels and nutrition content to truly go zero carb. There are a lot of foods people tend to classical I think as carb free that actually have quite a bit

I started following Shawn Baker on Instagram after I heard him on Joe Rogan's show. I haven't tried it out but been tempted to do it for a month just to see the effects. Seems like he's actually gotten more aggressive in his vernacular going after vegans which, while entertaining, I'm not sure is productive long-term. I do like someone championing the idea that meat is healthy after red meat was demonized for years though. People who have tried the diet and seen all sorts of long term health problems go away are regularly sending him messages that he shares which is pretty cool.

What is the reason for no vegetables or fruits?

Do you have to eat like 2-3 pounds of meat a day?

Does the leanness of the meat matter? Would eating only chicken and fish be okay or does the diet require fatty meats too?

Do eggs count as meat?

Can you use cooking oils? Butter? Seasoning?

You need fatty meats because your body starts converting fat to ketones to burn for energy rather than burning carbs.

The whole diet is based on eating 65-90% fat, the rest protein.

And yes to all the other questions. Just don't eat anything with carbs.

What about liquor , zero carb like tequillia ok ?

Also how do you not dehydrate ?

Bump.

Anyone started up on this lately? Was planning out grocery store run while listening to a podcast with a carnivore dieter and got me interested, so I might give it a go for a month just to see what it's like.

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The whole diet is based on eating 65-90% fat, the rest protein.

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And this isn't as easy as it sounds when you realize that a slice of brisket with visible fat is roughly--50%-50% fat-protein and you want 80%-20% fat-protein

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Disclaimer!!!!!!: I do not claim to be a health professional and I am not near as educated in that as most of you. However, if something works I find it asinine to say it's unhealthy just because someone told us it is by regurgitating flawed data from epidemiological studies (which are a complete joke and should not be considered science).

I'm doing Zero carb. It's a funny thing, I have been doing no vegetables or fruit for years but I always had bread, and lots of it. A month ago I decided to trust the info I've been reading and decided to cut carbs all the way out....except for my weekend beer drinking.

So far, I have lost 21 lbs in 3 weeks and have not felt this good since high school. My energy levels are up, I fall asleep faster and sleep deeper, my blood pressure has come down to healthy levels, bad cholesterol is down, triglycerides are great, stool is much more consistent and less painful, inflammation in my joints have virtually disappeared. But out of everything, the biggest pro to me has been my increased cognitive function. I think more clearly and problem solve more efficiently than I believe I ever have.

I completely Understand how crazy it sounds to eat nothing but meat, but it's working. And I believe it only sounds crazy because of the lies we've been fed our whole lives about a "balanced diet".....it's all complete BS. Fiber is not necessary, vegetables are not necessary, and cholesterol is not affected by saturated fats. If anything, processed carbohydrates have a much bigger impact on cholesterol than everything else combined.

Now I will cover for the incoming.

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Curious to get an update on your zero carb journey. Did you keep up with it?

I think I am going to give the Carnivore diet a try.

Found this diet plan online (I don't plan on following the plan exactly, but will use it as a guide for different meals):
Day 1

• Breakfast: Steak and eggs
• Lunch: Salmon and fried pork
• Snack: Cottage cheese (will replace with a snack from the list I like better)
• Dinner: Ground beef patties

Day 2

• Breakfast: Feta cheese omelette
• Lunch: Chicken thighs with cheddar cheese
• Snack: Chomps!
• Dinner: Ribeye steak

Day 3

• Breakfast: Poached eggs with bacon
• Lunch: Tuna and hard boiled eggs (going to add mustard and mix this together)
• Snack: Sardines (will replace with a snack from the list I like better)
• Dinner: Bone broth and roasted chicken

Day 4

• Breakfast: Kefir and two eggs over medium
• Lunch: Shredded chicken with bacon
• Snack: Tuna
• Dinner: Bison burgers

Day 5

• Breakfast: Chicken livers and scrambled eggs
• Lunch: Turkey burgers
• Snack: Hard boiled eggs (will replace with a snack from the list I like better)
• Dinner: Slow roasted salmon

Day 6

• Breakfast: Chicken and feta omelette
• Lunch: Beef liver
• Snack: Sardines (will replace with a snack from the list I like better)
• Dinner: Pork chops

Day 7

• Breakfast: Bacon and eggs
• Lunch: Grilled chicken tenders
• Snack: Steak bites
• Dinner: Prime rib

A few questions:

• I'm assuming the "burgers" are without bread? Although day 1 specifically has just patties and the other days say burgers, so a little confused.
• Is dark meat chicken with skin preferred in this diet b/c of the fat content?
• Are the rotisserie chickens sold at the grocery store okay? They don't always put the nutrtion labels on these and not sure if what they season and marinate these with might have a negative impact.
• Any alcohol advice? I can easily go once a week or a couple of weeks without drinking, but don't want to be completely anti-social. Maybe whiskey on the rocks???
• Coffee? I'm assuming no sweeteners allowed? This is probably going to be my biggest hangup.
• Beef Jerkey allowed? Seems to have some sugar, albeit minimal.

I usually workout quite a bit and stay active but tend to out-eat my excercise. I'm not obese or anything, but usually don't feel my body reflects my activity level and I know I need to work on my diet. Not exactly expecting this to work but giving it a try as it seems relatively easy for the types of foods I like to eat. I currently plan on doing this for two months and then evaluating the overall results as well as getting blood work done.

I plan to update this post about once a week, with my stats, mostly bodyfat and my diet for that week so others can see if this is something they want to try and to get random internet feedback and advise.

Day 1 (5/31):
Workout: 45 min upper body lift, 1 mile light jog to gym, 1 mile walk back from gym
Breakfast: (4) Bacon and (2) eggs over medium (cooked in the bacon grease)
Lunch: Low Sodium Tuna (in a pouch)
Snack: Steak Bites (Chopped sirloin, mixed with a little bit of garlic, tbsp of butter, sea salt, pepper, pinch of red pepper flakes, cooked in beef tallow)
Dinner: grilled t-bone steak; seasoned with salt, pepper and beef tallow
Drinks: Water, Unsweet tea, nuun sport+, Coffee with cream and spleda (first thing in the AM prior to deciding to give this a try)

Day 2 (6/1):
Stats: weight - 193.1#, bf - 24.3%, muscle - 38.5%, water - 56.8% (taken first thing in the AM on a cheap scale)
Workout: Orange Theory 60 minute HIIT (1 mile light jog there, 1 mile walk back)
Breakfast: (4) Bacon and (2) eggs over medium (cooked in the bacon grease)
Lunch: t-bone steak
Snack: none
Dinner: bacon cheddar beef patty topped with colby jack cheese and mustard
Drinks: Coffee - black, Unsweet tea, Water, nuun sport+

Day 3 (6/2):
Stats: weight - 190.0#, bf - 23.6%, muscle - 38.8%, water - 57.3% (taken first thing in the AM)
Workout: 45 min lower body lift, 1 mile light jog to gym, 1 mile walk back from gym
Breakfast: Bone-in pork chop cooked in bacon grease & 2 fried egg, cooked in bacon grease
Lunch: skipped
Snack: skipped
Dinner: T-bone steak
Drinks: Coffee - black, Water, nuun sport+, Unsweet tea

Day 4 (6/3):
Stats: weight - 188.5#, bf - 23.6% / 16%**, muscle - 38.8%, water - 57.3%
Workout: Orange Theory 60 minute HIIT (1 mile light jog there, 1 mile walk back)
Breakfast: (4) Bacon and (3) eggs over medium (cooked in the bacon grease)
Lunch / Snack: 4 oz dark meat rotisserie chicken with skin
Dinner: skipped, not hungry
Drinks: Coffee - black, Water, Unsweet tea, nuun
Notes: Feel pretty good so far, actually much better than I expected to be at this point; woke up with a slight headache but nothing major. Also my HIIT class on day 2 was a little nauseating towards the end. We shall see today.

Day 5 (6/4):
Stats: weight - 186.5#, bf - 22.9% / 15.8%**, muscle - 39.2%, water - 57.8%
Workout: 45 min full body lift & Orange Theory 60 minute HIIT (1 mile light jog there, 1 mile walk back)
Breakfast: (4) Bacon - Tender Belly (a little on the lean side, but so tasty) and (2) eggs over medium (cooked in the bacon grease)
Dinner: Ribeye, lathered in beef tallow, salt and peppered, cooked in air fryer. It was okay, but prefer the grill more, it was super simple and quick though.
Drinks: Coffee - black, Water, Unsweet tea, nuun
Notes:

• Skipping Hydroxycut today, might try to keep caffiene intake to a minimal to see how my body feels with low levels of it since I am not getting any kind of sugar spikes on this diet, would be nice to just have consistent energy and no ups and downs from other stimuli.
• Appetite is really low.

Day 6 (6/5):
Stats: weight - 186.1#, bf - 22.9% / 15.8%**, muscle - 39.2%, water - 57.8%
Workout: flag football game, semi-rest day workout wise.
Breakfast: (3) Bacon - Tender Belly and (2) eggs over medium (cooked in the bacon grease)
Dinner: 6 to 8 pieces of dark meat with skin baked chicken from Krogers
Snak: 2 pieces of dark meat chicken with
Drinks: Coffee - black, Water, nuun, whiskey on the rocks (several... bad, I know)

Day 7 (6/6):
Stats: weight - 187.6#, bf - 23.2% / 15.9%**, muscle - 39.1%, water - 57.6%
Workout: rest day
Breakfast: (2) Pork Chops and (2) eggs over medium (both cooked in bacon grease)
Dinner: 2 beef patties with reduced fat colby jack cheese
Cheat Meal: 1/2 pint ice cream
Drinks: Coffee - black, Ice - sparkling water, Water, nuun, whiskey on the rocks (several... bad, I know)

Day 8 (6/7):
Stats: weight - 187.4#, bf - 23.1% / 15.9%**, muscle - 39.1%, water - 57.7%
Workout: 45 min upper body lift & Orange Theory 60 minute HIIT (1 mile light bike ride there and back)
Breakfast: 3/4# ribeye steak and (2) eggs over medium (cooked in beef tallow)
Lunch: tuna mixed with 2 boiled egss and 2 tablespoons of mayonaise
Dinner: (2) 1/3# hamburger patties with cheese and mustard
Snack: 1 piece baked chicken with skin, 1 Chomp (venison with salt & pepper stick)
Drinks: Coffee - black, Water, nuun, Ice - sparkling water

Day 9 (6/8):
Stats: weight - 187.4#, bf - 23.2% / 15.9%**, muscle - 39.0%, water - 57.6%
Workout: Orange Theory 60 minute HIIT (1 mile light bike ride there and back)
Breakfast: (3) Bacon - Tender Belly and (2) eggs over medium (cooked in the bacon grease)
Lunch: 6 oz ribeye steak
Snack: 1 Chomp (venison with salt & pepper stick)
Dinner: (15) wings from wingstop with a little bit of ranch (probably a partial cheat meal, ~8g of carbs)
Drinks: Coffee - black, Water, tea (unsweet - decaf)

Day 10 (6/9):
Stats: weight - 187.4#, bf - 23.1% / 15.9%**, muscle - 39.1%, water - 57.7%
Workout: 45 min lower body lift, 1 mile light jog to gym, 1 mile walk back from gym
Breakfast: (3) Bacon - Tender Belly and (2) eggs over medium (cooked in the bacon grease)
Lunch: 16oz ribeye steak
Dinner: (2) 1/3# hamburger patties with cheddar cheese and mustard
Drink: coffee, water, tea (unsweet - decaf)

Day 11 (6/10):
Stats: weight - 186.3#, bf - 22.8% / 15.8%**, muscle - 39.3%, water - 57.9%
Workout: rest day
Breakfast: (3) Bacon - Tender Belly and (2) eggs over medium (cooked in the bacon grease)
Drink: coffee, water, tea (unsweet - decaf)

Day 112 (9/19):
Stats: weight 176.0#, bf 14.6%**


**: got a new BT scale that has "athlete mode" and that makes quite a difference, might report both numbers for a little while. It provides muscle mass % a little different so will back calculate that later

Supplements:
Hydroxycut, L-Arginine, nuun sport+ hydration tablets

Going to lay off the updates on this so it doesn't make this page too long, and it is a very simple diet without the need to really do much tracking. My primary meals are hamburger patties and ribeye steaks. Will add saute shrimp to the steak occasionaly, with lots of butter. Also have bacon and eggs a couple of days a week, but usually skip breakfast.

1. Definitely no bread.

2. I think either would be fine but dark meat is certainly more enjoyable because of the fat.

3. The rotisserie chickens are probably not the best, but unlikely to cause any issues from the seasoning.

4. Booze is definitely not supposed to be part of carnivore, but I have been doing it for two years and still enjoy a drink once or twice a week.

5. Definitely no sweeteners in the coffee.

6. With as much food as you have listed above, you can probably do without the jerky.

You'll likely eat a crazy amount when you first start and then gradually decrease as you get used to doing it. I can only handle two meals a day because I am so satisfied with what I eat. I usually eat about a pound to a pound and a half at lunch and about a pound at dinner. It is hard to eat more than that, even with intense workouts.

How much is your weekly grocery bill with those weights? Cost has been my biggest deterrent to this diet.

That's a good question. Probably $100-$120 a week. I buy almost all of my meat from Costco consisting of steak and hamburger patties. They have big rolls of grass fed hamburger patties that are really well prices.

I heard someone else say that they like to do the non grass fed beef cuts of steak from costco and then go grass-fed for the patties. I think I might go that route. Also after being in it for a few days, I think I am just going to keep it really simple and not go with all the different meals in that plan I found. This isn't so much about getting variety in, it seems.

That's exactly what I do. It works great. The best thing is actually the lack of variety. I use salt liberally and it never gets old. It's nice not having to think about what you are going to eat.

I also highly recommend air frying steaks. It crisps the fat on the outside and is very easy to do.

Just a bump and to add an update now that I am 37 days in on this diet.

Current weight is 184 (down from about 194), so the weight loss kind of slowed down some after the first week, but I am still leaning up. I cut out caffiene for a bit just to get a feel for how my energy was without it, and honestly I don't feel like I need to wake up to coffee. I do enjoy the euphoria from it, so I drink it most days now. I do occasionally skip it without realizing it as I don't need it to get through the day.

I am suprised by how well I have felt. Orginally thinking about attempting the diet I was worried how crappy I would feel as when in the past when I would eat steak I would enjoy it but feel uncomfortably full and sluggish afterwards, but honestly haven't experienced that one bit. Quite the opposite actually. Also the talk of eating so much fat like bacon and not having anything else to assist sounded a bit nausiating, but again no problems. My energy level is quite stable. I can go workout without eating anything prior in the morning and feel fine all the way through. I can also do really long exhausting workouts and not feel like I am going to crash if I don't eat something immediately.

I feel like my taste buds and cravings are starting to adapt as well. Originally when I would cook hamburger patties I would add cheese and mustard to it, but now I am more than fine with just salt. I will fry some wings in bacon grease and originally I would dip or coat them a simple buffalo sauce but no longer feel the need to add the buffalo sauce. Actually may drop the wings soon as I am becoming more content just eating ribeyes and hamburger patties all the time.

Still strugling with just drinking water. I have been buying zero/5 calorie zero carb sparkling water, drinking tea (unsweet), and drinking coffee. This will probably be the next phase I try to work on. Will probably keep the coffee, but really try to drop the flavored sparkling water. Also I started saving the bones and will give bone broth a try; maybe that will help with some of the boredom with water.

The no alcohol kind of sucks and have been going out with friends about once a week for drinks (although just drinking whiskey on the rocks). I need to find ways to be social without drinking I suppose . Other than that, this has been a pretty easy diet for me as I have always been a meat heavy eater. The only times I want to cheat are late at night lying in bed I will occassionally crave sugar, so the last few days I have been making a light meal right before I lay down and that has helped.

Has anyone tried making carnivore ice cream? Going to give it a try.

Recipe is as follows.

• 2 cups heavy cream
• 3 egg yolks
• 1/4 tsp Redmond real salt Himalayan Pink Salt (what I had on hand)
• 1/4 1.25 tsp glycine (might use honey if this sucks)
• 1/4 3/4 tsp vanilla extract (non carnivore part of recipe)

I think this will help add more fat to the diet without it being much of a cheat meal.

Edit: After trying it, it didn't come out too bad, but wish it were quite a bit sweeter. I added some extra glycine / vanilla after tasting it while mixing, but next time I think I am going to try something like 1Tbsp of glycine.

So I think I'm just going to pick a 30 day window sometime this fall and do this. Should be an interesting experiment.

I really want to try it. Thanks for the cool and informative thread, it will help me for sure

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So I think I'm just going to pick a 30 day window sometime this fall and do this. Should be an interesting experiment.

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Thinking I might try the same. It sounds so absurd and counterintuitive to all the brainwashing we receive about health (especially for 80's kids) that I HAVE to try it now. Just to see. Have some leftovers planned for tonight but might as well start tonight or tomorrow. Think I should have no problem with the diet in general.

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So I think I'm just going to pick a 30 day window sometime this fall and do this. Should be an interesting experiment.

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Thinking I might try the same. It sounds so absurd and counterintuitive to all the brainwashing we receive about health (especially for 80's kids) that I HAVE to try it now. Just to see. Have some leftovers planned for tonight but might as well start tonight or tomorrow. Think I should have no problem with the diet in general.

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Finally getting around to trying it. Day 1 starts today. Pretty interested to see how this goes. I am more curious than anything like an actual desire to lose weight or lifestyle change. Though the energy difference I have heard about is intriguing.

I am also a lolpoor so ground hamburger and chicken breast will be my go tos for the vast majority of this. I also refuse to cut out dairy and pickles though so it won't be 100% carbfree unfortunately. Still excited though. I am bored this time of year (Right before a new semester) and this sounds like a neat thing to throw myself into for a little while.

Good luck. You need fat, so the dairy should help with that. Especially if chicken breast are going to be a staple of your diet.

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Good luck. You need fat, so the dairy should help with that. Especially if chicken breast are going to be a staple of your diet.

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Thanks. Just finished my first meal of beef patties. They sucked. But I'll survive.

Yeah, guessing I should probably do some more research. Anyone have an actual structured eating guide that is worth a damn and not in a hardbound book?

At first I ate the patties with salt, cheese and mustard. After about a week, I started enjoying the patties just on their own. I do salt them a lot more than I used to and I think that helps as well.

I posted (several posts up) a structured meal plan I found online. But I have pretty much done away with that.

Meals:

Breakfast (maybe twice a week): Bacon and eggs, Lots of bacon so I do not get too hungry later on.
Lunch A: About 10 - 15 wings air fryed with lots of bacon grease added into the air fryer. Heavily salt the wings prior to cooking, no other spices. Early on I would use a buffalo sauce to dip the wings in, but have done away with that.
Lunch B: Hamburger patties
Snack: Sauted shrimp in butter and salt (maybe once a week)
Snack: Beef Stick
Snack: Homemade carnivore ice cream
Dinner: Ribeye or new york strip, early on I would sometimes do hamburger patties or wings for dinner, but I have gotten really acustomed to steaks. It is easy to make and taste great now that I have perfected the reverse sear method and I really look forward to it every day. Sometimes I saute a few shrimp to top it off with for a change up. As for cost, I mostly buy the steaks from Costco at about $12-$18 / lb and then when the grocery store has a sale I will load up on them then for about $5-$7 / lb. Shawn Baker mentioned that he will buy in bulk at times from a local butcher and get his ribeyes for like $5 / lb. You could also go with cheaper cuts, which I often see youtubers do. I don't find this to be overly expensive though, b/c I eat out a lot less now than I did prior to the diet, so that probably more than offsets the costs.

Thats about the extent of my variety though. Usually two meals a day and then maybe a snack about every other day. Don't really need that much variety, just find meats you like that you are going to be statisfied with and learn how to cook them to perfection with just butter, lard, and salt. Beef seems to be the the most satiating and people seem to report doing best with that being a staple though. Some people do the lion diet, which is only beef.

That list was a big help, thanks.

Been on this for about a week now and have first impressions.

My first caveat is that I am not doing zero carb as I still consume cheese and a little bit of milk every now and again. I also have been eating a lot more mixed nuts than normal. Probably a couple of handfuls a day now. So definitely on the low card side and not zero. But still sub 20g for sure and probably 15g most days.

With that though, I will say I have not seen any drastic bodily changes. I have lost maybe about ~2-3 lbs overall to date. And I am sure that is just because I am just straight up not eating as much as I was. I am not seeing any of the other boosts either really. Honestly, I feel about the same in every day activities. Which I will also say that is not what I expected either, so that is probably a plus. My con so far is that I definitely took a step back on my workouts in energy, both burst and endurance. Not happy with that at all.

And that about sums it up for now. No major benefits worth typing out and my workout energy got noticeably dinged. That being said, I realize that it takes time to get used to this so I will definitely keep at it for at least another couple of weeks and see what the final tally is after that.

As far as the eating goes, I never thought I would say it as I consider myself very much a red meat fan, but I got very bored very quickly with the diet. I don't have the budget to be too adventurous unfortunately and have to hash out what I can with pork chops and ground beef in the main. Did stumble across a really good meatloaf recipe that will probably be my go to for the time being as beef patties were already starting to kill me after just a few days. It is what it is I guess.

Will update more later. Just wanted to get this down for now.

ETA: Will also note that I suffered some pretty bad headaches the first two days. I know this is not uncommon as your body adjusts but they were pretty bad. Damn near migraine level and all day long. I am fine now in that regard but definitely worth noting I think.

The beef patties are probably my least favorite part of the diet. I probably only eat that about twice a week. I did stumble on this, this past week at Costco and will probably make this a another go-to item (probably skip wings and just do this and possibly the thighs they had like this as well). I just air fry them with bacon grease and salt and they are fantastic and easy.



Edit to also say that you might want to try to skip the nuts for a couple of weeks. With meat it is a good calorie restrictive diet. When you add snacks such as nuts and dairy, you can start increasing your caloric intake without realizing it (depending on your reason for doing this diet).

I'm 1.5 months into carnivore and love it save one thing.

The good: my IBS is gone, lost 7 lbs quickly and now slowly trending down (maybe 0.5 lbs a week but keeping my strength and getting stronger), and love the binary I can eat that but not that.

The bad: red meat is expensive, but I show up to HEB around 630AM to get whatever is on sale. In bjj, my stamina can go out quicker. I am trying now to eat 1 spoonful of honey (luckily my neighbor keeps bees!) so maybe will help.

It's boring at times, but I feel great and the only time my weight doesn't seesaw like on any other program I've been on.

Carnivore is the way to go and it's so easy and satisfying.

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I'm 1.5 months into carnivore and love it save one thing.

The good: my IBS is gone, lost 7 lbs quickly and now slowly trending down (maybe 0.5 lbs a week but keeping my strength and getting stronger), and love the binary I can eat that but not that.

The bad: red meat is expensive, but I show up to HEB around 630AM to get whatever is on sale. In bjj, my stamina can go out quicker. I am trying now to eat 1 spoonful of honey (luckily my neighbor keeps bees!) so maybe will help.

It's boring at times, but I feel great and the only time my weight doesn't seesaw like on any other program I've been on.

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I'm sure it is already mentioned in this thread, but try costco for red meat if you can. Really good cuts for pretty good prices. I would still monitor the regular grocery store and load up when they would have really good deals. I ate steak nearly every day for a year when I was on it but didn't seem too expensive b/c I ate out so little.

I noticed some fatigue in cardio, but just be sure to go pretty fat heavy and that you are getting your electorlytes. Your body does get better and better and converting fat to energy the longer you are on it, but isn't the same as carbs at the end of the day.

Looks like an old thread resurrected....But I'll jump in since it appears it has some momentum....

Am I the world's foremost authority on nutrition ? I am not.
Am I the world's foremost authority on exercise ? I am not.
Am I the world's foremost authority on biochemistry ? I am not.
Am I the world's foremost authority on exercise physiology ? I am not

What I am is a guy who despite really enjoying working out, lifting weights, and participating in sports and playing with kids living an active lifestyle has always struggled with weight, spare tire a excess body fat all over.

Tried low calorie diets
Tried slim fast and points based
Tried vegetarian/plant based diet
Tried Whole 30 diet.
Tried Paleo
Tried Mediteranean
Tried Atkins
Tried analyzing macros
Tried cutting alcohol alone.
Tried portion control
Tried Many small meals
Tried only 1 cheat day or meal.
Tried "CrossFit Diet" (meats/vegetables/nuts&seeds/some fruit, no sugar)

And again, despite being pretty physically active in terms of cardio and lifting and other activities, never made progress, always had a spare tire and excess fat hanging around.

Then in 2020 when the gyms closed and I couldn't workout, I gave keto (and eventually carnivore focused) a shot, and I lost that 7-10 pounds I was carrying around my midsection without working out cause gyms were closed.....and then when gyms reopened my performance and health went to the next level. And it is such a relief to be able to eat whenever you want, as much as you want.

As I've said on the other threads....you are your own test case. But having tried it all.....I know this works and it feels like I have found the fountain of youth and I'm just trying to shout the good news from the mountain tops because I struggled the struggle that I know many on here have, and I've come out the other side and its amazing. I've amassed significant research and spend quite a bit of time on Health Research. Happy to shre and encourage anyone however I can. Don't give up !

I got sick and tired of HEB having terrible selection and not putting meat out in the case. A friend swore by Costco, and boy was I wrong and he was right. Meat is great quality and WAY cheaper at Costco....I swear the membership pays for itself in a few dinners.

I'll leave yall to this thread, but just understand what you are doing...
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16685046/
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa0804748