Found this:

P-40 Blowing up on the runway

Japanese Model Ships

Mule_lx said:

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Roy Benavidez

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If you can get some time check out his MOH presentation by Reagan. It's on YouTube

Mule_lx said:

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Roy Benavidez

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They made the Lone Survivor. I'd think they could make one about him.

The gym at Laughlin AFB is named for him.

Mule_lx said:

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Roy Benavidez

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I just finished Legend by Eric Blehm about him. Amazing story. Like Reagan said, if you were to make a movie about him, no one would ever believe it.

https://www.amazon.com/Legend-Incredible-Sergeant-Benavidezs-Mission-ebook/dp/B00N6PETF8

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The Original AG 76 said:

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JABQ04 said:

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I'm jealous

Also I would love see a movie about Jutland

And:
The Bismarck
Midway
and of course the Battle off Samar (a la Last stand of the Tin Can Sailors)

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The 1960 movie "Sink The Bismark" is one the best WW2 movies ever. Seems to be VERY accurate. Kenneth Moore is a very underrated actor that does a great job. Lots of great action using real naval assets instead of modern CGI stuff. I'm not sure that any new version could even come close to this one.

Of course " Midway" is widely acclaimed to be a fairly good flick with reasonable accuracy and an unreal cast. Don't see how you could beat that one either.

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Meh. A better plot focused on the battle rather than a tacked-on father-son-Japanese girlfriend story and recreating the battle scenes versus the jarringly obvious use of WWII footage.

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Not to mention featuring aircraft that were actually involved in the battle. Because of their use of real footage, they went with what they could find that fit their action scenes, but often there would be an F6F Hellcat, F4U Corsair, or even an F9F Panther (a freaking jet fighter!) on screen when none of those were available in June 1942.

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Roy Benavidez

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Rex Racer said:

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I would love to see a detailed and accurate movie of the Battle of Yorktown. There are so many things that happened that are not taught in school. So many things that had to go right for the U.S. in order for us to win, and they all went our way.

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This is a good enough answer for me, but it needs to show the W ar in the Carolinas as an intro.

A faithful, true-to life account of Paris in the 1920s: the whole Lost Generation thing with Hemingway, F. Scott and Zelda Fitzgerald, Ezra Pound, James Joyce, Gertrude Stein, Picasso etc... I am fascinated by that era.

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Rex Racer said:

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I would love to see a detailed and accurate movie of the Battle of Yorktown. There are so many things that happened that are not taught in school. So many things that had to go right for the U.S. in order for us to win, and they all went our way.

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This is a good enough answer for me, but it needs to show the W ar in the Carolinas as an intro.

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"The Patriot" kinda sorta went there but I agree, a BoB quality movie would be awesome.

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IDAGG:

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- Shackleton's Voyage to Antartica and their self-rescue.

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There was a pretty good mini-series on A&E starrinbg Kenneth Branagh that covered this pretty well. See Shackelton

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Thanks! I had no idea that had been done. Lemme see if Netflix has it on disc.

Cincinnatus could be great and there are a number of old action stars (Mel Gibson, Arnold, Sly) that could pull it off.

Always thought the Gallic Wars would be an epic movie after reading Caesar's commentary.

Arminius (Hermann) and the Roman campaign into Germany. The Roman legion wss annhilated and their Ragles captured.

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So many things that had to go right for the U.S. in order for us to win, and they all went our way.

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The French having our back at Yorktown was a major thing going our way ..

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Then came news that the thirty-four-ship French West Indies battle fleet was heading for Virginia with three thousand infantry. (Rochambeau had urged the French admiral, de Grasse, to undertake this gamble.) Plans for New York were abandoned, and Washington executed a swift concentration of every available soldier before the little tobacco port on the Chesapeake. A trapped Cornwallis asked the British fleet and army in New York for help. The fleet sortied to clash with French ships of the line off the Virginia Capes in one of the most important least-known naval battles of history. The outnumbered British admiral, Thomas Graves, adhered rigidly to the conservative "Fighting Instructions," which prescribed a strict line of battle formation aimed at limiting losses. De Grasse battered several British ships in a two-and-a-half-hour clash, and Graves, after two more days of fruitless maneuvers for advantage, abandoned Cornwallis and returned to New York.

Meanwhile, a smaller French squadron under Admiral Barras slipped into the Chesapeake, carrying the French army's siege artillery. Trapped behind hastily constructed redoubts, without cannon heavy enough to match the French big guns, Cornwallis's army crumbled under night and day bombardment. On October 14, two key redoubts were carried in a night assault. Three days later, Cornwallis surrendered. As his men marched out to stack their guns, their bands played "The World Turned Upside Down." In London, when Prime Minister Lord North heard the news, he cried: "Oh God, it is all over." So it was.

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About all I remember from my American history classes about the French contribution to the Revolutionary War was along the lines of "Yeah, the French were on our side, helped us out a little" ...

Even though the Revolutionary War is the most important conflict we have ever fought it is also the least "taught" of our major conflicts and even when taught it is a weak glossed over one sided massively oversimplified summary. I'll bet that 9 outa the 10 kids ( outa the 2 outa 100 that are even aware of history) know about the French or that the war was not widely supported by the masses.

I would LOVE to see something historically accurate on the Soviet space program!

A Gus Grissom biopic would be good too. Absolve him of the needless blame for the loss of the Liberty Bell 7 that The Right Stuff put on him.

Outside of space history, the illegal annexation of Hawaii would be a fascinating movie. Providing they actually cast Hawaiians.

One of the things that surprised me about Yorktown was finding out that Hamilton threatened to resign from the military if he wasn't given a field commission (instead of serving on Washington's staff). When he finally got it, he led the assault that took one of those redoubts at Yorktown.

Maybe today but when I was in school WW1 and Korea were absolutely covered. Perhaps it was because a lot of our fathers fought in Korea and our grandfathers in WW1. Still kinda fresh

Oh yeah. It's definitely changed. They spend ages on Indians, Civil War & WWII and gloss over the rest. Texas history is similar...spend a semester on Indians & regions, a couple months on Texas Rev then a few weeks on the 180 years since.

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So many things that had to go right for the U.S. in order for us to win, and they all went our way.

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The French having our back at Yorktown was a major thing going our way ..

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Then came news that the thirty-four-ship French West Indies battle fleet was heading for Virginia with three thousand infantry. (Rochambeau had urged the French admiral, de Grasse, to undertake this gamble.) Plans for New York were abandoned, and Washington executed a swift concentration of every available soldier before the little tobacco port on the Chesapeake. A trapped Cornwallis asked the British fleet and army in New York for help. The fleet sortied to clash with French ships of the line off the Virginia Capes in one of the most important least-known naval battles of history. The outnumbered British admiral, Thomas Graves, adhered rigidly to the conservative "Fighting Instructions," which prescribed a strict line of battle formation aimed at limiting losses. De Grasse battered several British ships in a two-and-a-half-hour clash, and Graves, after two more days of fruitless maneuvers for advantage, abandoned Cornwallis and returned to New York.

Meanwhile, a smaller French squadron under Admiral Barras slipped into the Chesapeake, carrying the French army's siege artillery. Trapped behind hastily constructed redoubts, without cannon heavy enough to match the French big guns, Cornwallis's army crumbled under night and day bombardment. On October 14, two key redoubts were carried in a night assault. Three days later, Cornwallis surrendered. As his men marched out to stack their guns, their bands played "The World Turned Upside Down." In London, when Prime Minister Lord North heard the news, he cried: "Oh God, it is all over." So it was.

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About all I remember from my American history classes about the French contribution to the Revolutionary War was along the lines of "Yeah, the French were on our side, helped us out a little" ...

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Go to the Yorktown Battlefield and talk to the park rangers. You'll get a story much deeper than even that. There were tons of little things that happened that went our way. Some of it was the fault of the British themselves. I'm not trying to minimize the French at all, but I learned things visiting the park and talking to the park rangers that I had never heard before. One of these was about Lord Cornwallis ordering that all the horses be slaughtered. When the tide came in, it brought all of the bloated carcasses back ashore, and the stench overwhelmed them. There are lots of other little nuggets like that I had never heard before. You can probably get them from a book, as well, but I have never read a book specifically on that battle.

I'd love to see an actual biopic of
1. The Red Baron
2. Erwin Rommel
3. William Tecumseh Sherman
4. Simo Hiyh
And ultimately, a modern review on Robert E. Lee's decision to support Virginia. Show him in his military prowess pre-Civil War, and do it in the same light as Lincoln did on the EP. Gut-wrenching decisions.

Benavidez and the CMH



Damn stud

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Even though the Revolutionary War is the most important conflict we have ever fought it is also the least "taught" of our major conflicts and even when taught it is a weak glossed over one sided massively oversimplified summary. I'll bet that 9 outa the 10 kids ( outa the 2 outa 100 that are even aware of history) know about the French or that the war was not widely supported by the masses.

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I would love to see a movie or mini-series about the southern campaigns of the revolutionary war - especially Kings Mountain and other battles in that area. It's lesser known, and Americans were mainly fighting each other (loyalists v seperatists).

Plus, some of my ancestors were participants..

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Go to the Yorktown Battlefield and talk to the park rangers. You'll get a story much deeper than even that. There were tons of little things that happened that went our way. Some of it was the fault of the British themselves. I'm not trying to minimize the French at all, but I learned things visiting the park and talking to the park rangers that I had never heard before. One of these was about Lord Cornwallis ordering that all the horses be slaughtered. When the tide came in, it brought all of the bloated carcasses back ashore, and the stench overwhelmed them. There are lots of other little nuggets like that I had never heard before. You can probably get them from a book, as well, but I have never read a book specifically on that battle.

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It is interesting that you bring this up about Park Rangers. It depends upon which Park Rangers you talk too. Most NPS rangers that you will talk to during the Summer are summer hires; college kids or school teachers. They may or may not have a deep background on the subjects they are talking about. They are given a list of topics to create a presentation on, research it, put it together, then run it by their supervisor before they ever get in front of the public.

A lot of the little tidbits/nuggets that you are mentioning are found in personal letters, diaries and journals that are not readily available to the general public. Some of them are historically accurate, some not so historically accurate. They also get a lot of their information from the Park Historian. Now if you ever want the real skinny on things, that is the person you want to kidnap.

Gettysburg takes tour guides to a whole nother level. They have certified Park Guides. They are people who live and breath the history of the battlefield. They are REALLY good. you pay for their services but you get an awesome experience out of them.

Now that I have mentioned all of this, I really miss doing those talks/tours.