Came across several of these the other day-interesting stories.

interesting story.
My Grandfather was the assistant Fire Marshall at Walker Air Base when the UFO event happened. He was supposedly onsite at one point or another so whatever was there, he saw it.

Many years later, after he had passed away, around an anniversary of the event, some reporter knocked on the door to my Grandmothers house and wanted to know anything he might have told her about the event. Without letting him in, she told him - Nothing happened out there. If it had, Daddy would have told me about it and he didn't tell me nothing.

I was born in Roswell and that is all I know about it.

But it's remarks such as this that tend to make you think the weather balloon explanation was a cover...

AFFIDAVIT (1) My name is Thomas Jefferson Dubose (2) My address is: XXXXXXXXXX (3) I retired from the U.S. Air force in 1959 with the rank of Brigadier General. (4) In July 1947, I was stationed at Fort Worth Army Air Field [later Carswell Air Force Base] in Fort Worth, Texas. I served as Chief of Staff to Major General Roger Ramey, Commander, Eighth Air Force. I had the rank of Colonel. (5) In early July, I received a phone call from Maj. Gen. Clements McMullen, Deputy Commander, Strategic Air Command. He asked what we knew about the object which had been recovered outside Roswell, New Mexico, as reported in the press. I called Col. William Blanchard, Commander of the Roswell Army Air Field, and directed him to send the material in a sealed container to me at Fort Worth. I so informed Maj. Gen. McMullen. (6) After the plane from Roswell arrived with the material, I asked the Base Commander, Col. Al Clark, to take possession of the material and to personally transport it in a B-26 to Maj. Gen. McMullen in Washington, D.C. I notified Maj. Gen. McMullen, and he told me he would send the material by personal courier on his plane to Benjamin Chidlaw, Commanding General of the Air Material Command at Wright Field [later Wright Patterson AFB]. The entire operation was conducted under the strictest secrecy. (7) The material shown in the photographs taken in Maj. Gen. Ramey's office was a weather balloon. The weather balloon explanation for the material was a cover story to divert the attention of the press. (8) I have not been paid or given anything of value to make this statement, which is the truth to the best of my recollection. Signed: T. J. Dubose Date: 9/16/91 Signature witnessed by: Linda R. Split Notary Public, State of Florida.

The Air Force has since admitted that the weather balloon story was a cover. The AF reopened the whole Roswell incident about 20 years ago and issued another report. In that report, they said that what was discovered was a test ejection seat For the new jets they were developing and test dummies inside of it, or something like that.

Jabin said:

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The Air Force has since admitted that the weather balloon story was a cover. The AF reopened the whole Roswell incident about 20 years ago and issued another report. In that report, they said that what was discovered was a test ejection seat For the new jets they were developing and test dummies inside of it, or something like that.

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Amazing isn't it. Lies compounding just further lies.

This is a fantastic interview of W. Glenn Dennis, the funeral home director in Roswell at the time of the vehicle crash.

Here's the USAF's second report that it released on June 24, 1997:

The Roswell Report: Case Closed : McAndrew, James, 1963- : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

So an entire UFO could fit in a B-26, which has a bomb bay smaller than a pickup truck bed?

Sounds like a weather balloon to me.

Except it was a balloon to study Soviet nuclear tests

I believe it was a B-29? I've heard that it went to Carswell first...then the fake photo shoot, then to Wright Patterson field and Fort Riley in Kansas and Dayton. Thoughts on the funeral directors accout of the event? Key thing is the nurse and her account of things as related to the crash.

Here is a good interview of Gerald Anderson who was a young kid when he and members of his family came across the 2nd vehicle crash site near Socorro.




Its my understanding that the mogul (radiation detection) balloons were not yet being flown at the time.

AFFIDAVIT (1) My name is Thomas Jefferson Dubose (2) My address is: XXXXXXXXXX (3) I retired from the U.S. Air force in 1959 with the rank of Brigadier General. (4) In July 1947, I was stationed at Fort Worth Army Air Field [later Carswell Air Force Base] in Fort Worth, Texas. I served as Chief of Staff to Major General Roger Ramey, Commander, Eighth Air Force. I had the rank of Colonel. (5) In early July, I received a phone call from Maj. Gen. Clements McMullen, Deputy Commander, Strategic Air Command. He asked what we knew about the object which had been recovered outside Roswell, New Mexico, as reported in the press. I called Col. William Blanchard, Commander of the Roswell Army Air Field, and directed him to send the material in a sealed container to me at Fort Worth. I so informed Maj. Gen. McMullen. (6) After the plane from Roswell arrived with the material, I asked the Base Commander, Col. Al Clark, to take possession of the material and to personally transport it in a B-26 to Maj. Gen. McMullen in Washington, D.C. I notified Maj. Gen. McMullen, and he told me he would send the material by personal courier on his plane to Benjamin Chidlaw, Commanding General of the Air Material Command at Wright Field [later Wright Patterson AFB]. The entire operation was conducted under the strictest secrecy. (7) The material shown in the photographs taken in Maj. Gen. Ramey's office was a weather balloon. The weather balloon explanation for the material was a cover story to divert the attention of the press. (8) I have not been paid or given anything of value to make this statement, which is the truth to the best of my recollection. Signed: T. J. Dubose Date: 9/16/91 Signature witnessed by: Linda R. Split Notary Public, State of Florida.

Yeah, I've worn your shoes Canyon. I think for religious reasons, I discounted it. The more you dig into this, it becomes clear that it wasn't a weather balloon. Way to many testimonies from way to many good folk.

"I would do it [study UFOs], but before agreeing to do it, we must insist upon full access to discs recovered. For instance, in the L.A. case, the Army grabbed it and would not let us have it for cursory examination." J. Edgar Hoover-Director of FBI

The security guard called and said, "Sir, there's a glowing red object hovering right outside the front gate. I've got all the men out here with their weapons drawn." We lost between 16-18 ICBMs (nuclear tipped Inter Continental Ballistic Missiles) at the same time UFOs were in the area… (A high-ranking Air Force officer) said, "Stop the investigation; do no more on this and do not write a final report. I heard that many of the guards that reported the incident were sent off to Vietnam." Captain Robert Salas, USAF, during a videotaped interview for the Disclosure program.

"A few insiders know the truth...and are studying the bodies that have been discovered." -Dr. Edgar Mitchell Apollo 14..the 6th NASA employee to walk on the Moon.
"Maximum security exists concerning the subject of UFOs." CIA Director, Allen Dulles, 1955.

"It's still classified above Top Secret." - Senator Barry Goldwater, 1975

"Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense." Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false" -William Casey, CIA director, 1981

"Yes, there have been ET visitations. There have been crashed craft. There have been material and bodies recovered. There has been a certain amount of reverse engineering that has allowed some of these craft, or some components, to be duplicated. And there is some group of people that may or may not be associated with the government at this point that have this knowledge. They have been attempting to conceal this knowledge. People in high level government have very little, if any, valid information about this. It has been the subject of disinformation in order to deflect attention and create confusion so the truth doesn't come out. " Edgar D. Mitchell, The Way of the Explorer: An Apollo Astronaut's Journey Through the Material and Mystical World

AFFIDAVIT (1) My name is Thomas Jefferson Dubose (2) My address is: XXXXXXXXXX (3) I retired from the U.S. Air force in 1959 with the rank of Brigadier General. (4) In July 1947, I was stationed at Fort Worth Army Air Field [later Carswell Air Force Base] in Fort Worth, Texas. I served as Chief of Staff to Major General Roger Ramey, Commander, Eighth Air Force. I had the rank of Colonel. (5) In early July, I received a phone call from Maj. Gen. Clements McMullen, Deputy Commander, Strategic Air Command. He asked what we knew about the object which had been recovered outside Roswell, New Mexico, as reported in the press. I called Col. William Blanchard, Commander of the Roswell Army Air Field, and directed him to send the material in a sealed container to me at Fort Worth. I so informed Maj. Gen. McMullen. (6) After the plane from Roswell arrived with the material, I asked the Base Commander, Col. Al Clark, to take possession of the material and to personally transport it in a B-26 to Maj. Gen. McMullen in Washington, D.C. I notified Maj. Gen. McMullen, and he told me he would send the material by personal courier on his plane to Benjamin Chidlaw, Commanding General of the Air Material Command at Wright Field [later Wright Patterson AFB]. The entire operation was conducted under the strictest secrecy. (7) The material shown in the photographs taken in Maj. Gen. Ramey's office was a weather balloon. The weather balloon explanation for the material was a cover story to divert the attention of the press. (8) I have not been paid or given anything of value to make this statement, which is the truth to the best of my recollection. Signed: T. J. Dubose Date: 9/16/91 Signature witnessed by: Linda R. Split Notary Public, State of Florida.

"There exists a shadowy government with its own Air Force, its own Navy, its own fundraising mechanism, and the ability to pursue its own ideas of national interest, free from all checks and balances, and free from the law itself. " Daniel Inouye Senate Select Committee on Secret Military Assistance to Iran and the Nicaraguan Opposition (Iran-Contra hearings) (1987)

REMOTE VIEWING (a technique developed by our CIA and Stanford Research Institute) PER FARSIGHT INSTITUTE data suggests...Genesis 19:24 Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven... AND..As the Quran has it, Prophet Muhammad took a night trip to heaven aboard a trusty winged pony-horse-mule-ish creature called Buraq...

Many other topics begin to make sense..

It has been said that after President Carter was finally briefed on the et reality, he was deeply upset. For several weeks..

MEANINGFUL congressional hearings, ala the Watergate hearings, including aerospace/defense contractors and others such as Bob Lazar, Andrew Basiago and Vice Admiral Thomas R. Wilson must be held to address a vital issue that transcends politics and we will never properly advance until it happens: The 75+yr ongoing-constitutionally illegal, EXTRATERRESTRIAL and associated TIME TRAVEL cover-ups. It would also be nice to know what the results of the many years/projects involving the back-engineering of recovered "vehicles" are. Who has been footing the bill for that? How can we truly believe anything our elected officials say?

The longer an "official" disclosure is delayed...the more disruptive it could be and the longer our slavery will stay entrenched. The general public is waiting to be given permission to believe...to know.

If you ever get a chance, visit the museum in Roswell. No matter what preconceived notion you have, little green men, weather balloons, government coverup, nothing at all, etc., you'll be 100 percent convinced you are right.

$240 Worth of Pudding said:

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aggiejim70 said:

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If you ever get a chance, visit the museum in Roswell. No matter what preconceived notion you have, little green men, weather balloons, government coverup, nothing at all, etc., you'll be 100 percent convinced you are right.

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Spoiler alert: Charles Hickson/Spyderman already is.
Never has a poster needed to change the record more than this guy.
Straight up spam at this point.

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Perhaps. Perhaps not. Your thoughts on the historical cover-up? Does the reality trouble you? Stay in the ring here..

CanyonAg77 said:

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I have no thoughts about either of your videos, as I have no desire to waste that kind of time.

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CanyonAg77, you'll love this video of a lady talking about, uhm, unusual physical examinations at the hands of aliens. It's only 3:46 out of your day.



"I didn't ask for the **** probe"

Your thoughts on the current controlled extraterrestrial reality disclosure process and related US GOV cover-up?
When the contagious giggling subsides, how will our civilization adapt to this publically known reality? What might be some of the potential implications of disclosure of this reality?

Do we really want to know the full truth?

Charles Hickson Knows said:

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Your thoughts on the current controlled extraterrestrial reality disclosure process and related US GOV cover-up?
When the contagious giggling subsides, how will our civilization adapt to this publically known reality? What might be some of the potential implications of disclosure of this reality?

Do we really want to know the full truth?

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bump..

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The problem with the cover up theory is the same as with every cover up theory.
There would be dozens or hundreds of people involved, and none of them ever seem to come forward with any credible proof of the claims. Get three people in a room and you can't keep it quiet, but 7 decades of silence among hundreds of people on the most important event in human history?

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Indeed. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to easily come to a conclusion here. The gov was VERY efficient at intimidating those they feared would talk. Still is to some degree. Thats why these interviews are so important to maintain and share.

Charles Hickson Knows said:

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oragator said:

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The problem with the cover up theory is the same as with every cover up theory.
There would be dozens or hundreds of people involved, and none of them ever seem to come forward with any credible proof of the claims. Get three people in a room and you can't keep it quiet, but 7 decades of silence among hundreds of people on the most important event in human history?

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Indeed. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to easily come to a conclusion here. The gov was VERY efficient at intimidating those they feared would talk. Still is to some degree. Thats why these interviews are so important to maintain and share.

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Bullsnit.

I lived in Roswell in the 80s and knew most of those witnesses. None of them were intimidated by anyone.

I have no idea what actually happened at Roswell back in the 40s, but claiming intimidation is just making stuff up to cover holes in your own theories.

Jabin said:

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Charles Hickson Knows said:

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oragator said:

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The problem with the cover up theory is the same as with every cover up theory.
There would be dozens or hundreds of people involved, and none of them ever seem to come forward with any credible proof of the claims. Get three people in a room and you can't keep it quiet, but 7 decades of silence among hundreds of people on the most important event in human history?

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Indeed. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to easily come to a conclusion here. The gov was VERY efficient at intimidating those they feared would talk. Still is to some degree. Thats why these interviews are so important to maintain and share.

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Bullsnit.

I lived in Roswell in the 80s and knew most of those witnesses. None of them were intimidated by anyone.

I have no idea what actually happened at Roswell back in the 40s, but claiming intimidation is just making stuff up to cover holes in your own theories.

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Have you watched the videos? Many of the residents most certainly were intimidated. Although Gerald Anderson was not a resident of Roswell.....just watch his testimony. Our gov/military went to extreme lenghts to hush this event down. Odd for a simple weather balloon...

The simple fact is, many secrets have been kept by many people for many reasons. The absence of disclosures doesnt prove much.