Ghandi was a silly man

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Just one of many controversial statements in this quite interesting discussion...

Ghost of Andrew Eaton
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I haven't watched the video but I've had numerous Indian students in the past few years who say he wasn't the hero that everyone makes him out to be.
If you say you hate the state of politics in this nation and you don't get involved in it, you obviously don't hate the state of politics in this nation.
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There's been a recent push in India against Ghandi because he wasn't considered a Hindu nationalist. In fact, his assassin was a Hindu nationalist that belonged to the predecessor of Modi's party and is revered by some segments of the current ruling party.
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I haven't watched the video but I've had numerous Indian students in the past few years who say he wasn't the hero that everyone makes him out to be.
They generally aren't.
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aalan94 said:

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I haven't watched the video but I've had numerous Indian students in the past few years who say he wasn't the hero that everyone makes him out to be.
They generally aren't.
Agreed. One of the lessons my students are participating in is "Was Andrew Jackson a political hero or villain?". I'm not a huge fan of it because I don't like that kids are stuck thinking dichotomous views are the way to view historical events or people. I've clearly fallen prey to that way of thinking from time to time and it's hindered my understanding of history. So we listed out the traits of a political villain and hero and then I asked them to think about different people, real and fictional. Thankfully, they all came to the conclusion that very few people are one or the other completely but the whole of their work can make them more of one than the other. They enjoyed it and then they went through the primary sources and let the evidence guide them. It's been interesting to see students argue one way or another.
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ghandi was definitely in it for 'his own' narrow interests.
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cbr said:

ghandi was definitely in it for 'his own' narrow interests.
What were "his own" narrow interests?
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Interesting take. This younger generation likes to sling the word "colonizer" around quite a bit but it is doubtful that they are seeing the full perspective.
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Sapper Redux said:

There's been a recent push in India against Ghandi because he wasn't considered a Hindu nationalist. In fact, his assassin was a Hindu nationalist that belonged to the predecessor of Modi's party and is revered by some segments of the current ruling party.


this is spot on.

I travel to India frequently on business and there is a major major push to remove Ghandi from anything good in many parts of the country because he is considered anti nationalist and pushed for better relations between Hindus and Muslims. Countless statues of Ghandi have come down in heavy Hindu Nationalist areas and now there is a push that will likely eventually come through to remove him from currency.
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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

I haven't watched the video but I've had numerous Indian students in the past few years who say he wasn't the hero that everyone makes him out to be.


Very few people are actually the hero that people make them out to be.

Does it make what they did in history not important or not good but everyone is a flawed human being.
“Some people bring joy wherever they go, and some people bring joy whenever they go.” ~ Mark Twain
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Threetoedcoyote said:

Interesting take. This younger generation likes to sling the word "colonizer" around quite a bit but it is doubtful that they are seeing the full perspective.


It's just another buzz word they're told is racist and derogatory, same with nationalist. But these are the same people who think that only whites ever enslaved people or did bad things, they're very naive and ignorant. It's hard to take them seriously.
“Some people bring joy wherever they go, and some people bring joy whenever they go.” ~ Mark Twain
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