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Ghost of Andrew Eaton
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I came across a post in Twitter from Traces of Texas. There is a bottle in the picture with a swastika that caught my attention. Could this be a product from India? Just curious about its history.
KingofHazor
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I believe that the swastika was also commonly used by North American Amerindians, particularly in the southwest. The old US federal courthouse in Albuquerque Has HVAC duct cover grills that include a reverse swastika. The New Mexico State University yearbook was entitled the Swastika for a long time.
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It was also a good luck symbol in the western countries until the Nazis co-opted it
$3 Sack of Groceries
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On what bottle are you seeing it? I'm completely missing it….
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$240 Worth of Pudding said:

On what bottle are you seeing it? I'm completely missing it….
Top shelf. Looks like a bitters bottle. Second over from her head.
p_bubel
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It's way back there. Took me a bit to find it.
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I got it now. Had to save the pic to my phone and zoom in.
Thanks.
CanyonAg77
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As above, it was a very common symbol worldwide, before Hitler ruined it. An American fighter squadron in WWI had a Swastika as their emblem. There's a 1920s hotel in Mountainaire, NM with Swastikas all over it.

Last time this came up, someone told of finding an underground valve at their refinery, with a Swastika casting mark. They were so offended, they had it ground off.

Think about that. A valve, that had to be close to 100 years old, at a refinery, and some doofus weakens it by grinding away, all because of a mark
CanyonAg77
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Correction, it was used by the 55th pursuit squadron in 1930-1932


CanyonAg77
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By the time My Favorite Pilot served in the 55th, they were using this


aalan94
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Yes, it was used all over the world, and while some Native Americans used it, it's really rare there. It's VERY common in Korea and parts of the East. They sell it on jewelry to this day. 9 times out of 10 I would place it to there, but being on a shelf in San Antonio, I'm not so sure. Probably not going to find it without a good bit of luck.
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I did some reading courtesy of newspapers.com, and it seems that there was an explosion of interest in the swastika charm around the turn of the century as Native American artwork began to be commercially produced for tourists, and the trend spread.
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I save a bunch of posts from this subreddit and found these. It even appears in Roman Mosaics.



Ciboag96
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CanyonAg77 said:

As above, it was a very common symbol worldwide, before Hitler ruined it. An American fighter squadron in WWI had a Swastika as their emblem. There's a 1920s hotel in Mountainaire, NM with Swastikas all over it.

Last time this came up, someone told of finding an underground valve at their refinery, with a Swastika casting mark. They were so offended, they had it ground off.

Think about that. A valve, that had to be close to 100 years old, at a refinery, and some doofus weakens it by grinding away, all because of a mark

Crane valves manufactured in Germany. See many in old facilities around the world. Never seen anyone grind one off. Most people have a brain and leave it be.
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https://www.kbzk.com/cnn-regional/2019/07/28/swastika-found-on-piping-valves-during-construction-project-at-state-capitol/

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Lincoln (Lincoln Journal Star) It wasn't what a worker expected to encounter while unwrapping long-concealed pipes and valves in the basement on the Capitol's heating, ventilation and air conditioning project.

But on some of those pipes and valves that were either being replaced or cleaned out and reinstalled, workers found marks that looked like swastikas, like Nazi symbols. Many of them are hidden inside concrete, or hidden by insulation....


A communication spokeswoman on behalf of Crane Co. said that from approximately 1910 through 1936, the symbol appeared as a foundry mark on certain cast steel products from Crane Co.'s Chicago foundry.

"The symbol has a long history of benign use by many cultures over centuries," said Molly Morse of Kekst CNC. "Crane likely selected it because, at the time, it was understood to indicate good luck and good fortune. The symbol became associated with hatred during World War II, by which time Crane had stopped using it."....


The Capitol was completed and in use before the Nazis came to power and appropriated the symbol, Ripley said. He doesn't feel a need to go back and revise history by saying they must now be removed from those original pieces of equipment in the building.

If a valve with the symbol is cleaned out and rewrapped with insulation, it will be hidden away from view, he said. They would cost thousands of dollars each to replace, he said.

Still one worker, who wanted to remain anonymous, said it was somewhat shocking to come across the symbols, even if they predated Nazi motifs.

Regarding the bolded part, some people are just clueless wimps.
CanyonAg77
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Ciboag96 said:


Crane valves manufactured in Germany. See many in old facilities around the world. Never seen anyone grind one off. Most people have a brain and leave it be.

12th reply down by PA24, He did not

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3354378/4

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PA24
Back in the day while looking for a product leak on LCR refinery property in Houston, we dug up a Nordstrom valve that had a nazis swastika. I had the welder grind it off the valve.
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So much to process in old photos, some more than others. A bottle of Gilbey's Spey-Royal Scotch Whiskey behind her, Hershey's chocolate, Folger's Coffee, etc. Wish I could read the clipping from the newspapers that are on the shelving and furniture behind her.

Holes in her sweater at one seam and elbow and elsewhere, and a safety pin a bit above the waist on her blouse or top or whatever you call it. Wonder what purpose it served?

A wedding ring, and a fly on her dress just to the right of it. Another fly on the thumb of her right hand.

I had to do a double take when I first saw the picture, she is a spitting image of a girl I knew, a sister of a friend of mine, only the girl I knew had much longer hair. We were around each other a good bit for 5 or 6 years. She has been on my mind a lot lately. She was majorly into me (not something that happened very often), but I wasn't into her though I am not sure why. Caused me to wonder what life would have been like if I had been.
Ghost of Andrew Eaton
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One of my favorite museums I've been to was the Newseum. It's now defunct but they had a whole section on Pulitzer photos. I went through that room twice because the photos were so great. I get caught up looking at everything in the photos, like you did with this one. Lots more of the story to be told.
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