Comanche death rituals?

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Short version:

I had reason to wonder how the Comanches or other plains tribes handled their dead. Abandoned on the plains, buried, other? Does anyone know?

Longer explanation: Wife and I were driving a paved county road (Hale) and there was a rough patch. Instead of blaming it on overloaded semis headed to the local Azteca grain mill, I joked that it was because the road passed over an old Indian graveyard.

The backstory is that the section of road we were on was built up through a playa lake, probably 100 years ago. The guy who farmed it when I was a kid had lived there then. He told us that the workers had exposed an Indian burial when they were grading the road.

I reminded my wife of the story, and she doubted it because she didn't think the Indians did burials. Well, I can't have her to be right and me be wrong, but I have no facts at my disposal

I don't have any record or confirmation of the old guy's story. And, of course it might not be Comanche. The site would be 8 miles from the Plainview Point site, 90 miles from the Clovis point, 250 miles from Folsom

Side story, the guy drove a 50 Buick as his pickup, just threw tools and calves in the back seat, and drove a 57 Edsel as his Sunday go to town car. He was deaf and would drive, his wife was blind, so she would listen for horns and such
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Wrapped in a blanket or buffalo robe, placed in a cave or crevice and covered with stones, pretty simple.

I got that from the Internet, because the three go to books on Comanches: Fehrenbach, Gwynne and Hamalainen are silent on Comanche funeral rituals.
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Have to remember they weren't from around here. They would have brought their Shoshone based traditions with them. The Shoshone buried their dead and burned their possessions to aid them in the next life..

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Nothing in the way of caves or crevices in the area. This is the Panhandle, so no trees, either. I suspect they buried. And no rocks nearby to cover with.

Would be interesting to know what happened to the bones. Also would like to know if Comanche or earlier groups.

But it was the 1920s, no they might have plowed them right back under.

The cave comment reminded me that there was a commercial tourist place, just 1/2 mile or so from the entrance to Palo Duro Canyon State Park. It was on a side canyon, and if you paid admission, you could go down a short trail where they had glassed off a small cave so you could see an Indian burial. I have no idea if it was legit, and I guess it is still there, though the business is long since closed.
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You could contact the Comanche Nation in Lawton,OK. Might get an answer to your question.
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Canyon maybe this is what you were referring to…
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That is almost certainly the one i remember as a kid. Was there a date on the find?

I find it interesting that they feel certain it was pre-Coronado, so not Comanche My guess is the artifacts were Clovis or similar
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Article was 1964
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CanyonAg77 said:

Nothing in the way of caves or crevices in the area. This is the Panhandle, so no trees, either. I suspect they buried. And no rocks nearby to cover with.

Would be interesting to know what happened to the bones. Also would like to know if Comanche or earlier groups.

But it was the 1920s, no they might have plowed them right back under.

The cave comment reminded me that there was a commercial tourist place, just 1/2 mile or so from the entrance to Palo Duro Canyon State Park. It was on a side canyon, and if you paid admission, you could go down a short trail where they had glassed off a small cave so you could see an Indian burial. I have no idea if it was legit, and I guess it is still there, though the business is long since closed.
Not just the Panhandle. The Caprock Escarpment is literally hundreds of miles of nothing but nooks and crevices. Not to mention the Balcones Escarpment and hundreds of mesa's in between them.
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From The Indians of Texas, From Prehistoric to Modern Times by W. W. Newcombe, Jr (Ninth Paperback Edition, 1990):

Chapter 7 Comanches: Terror of the Southern Plains, page 172-173
When an elderly person was obviously approaching death he was apt to be "thrown away" by his friends and relatives, not for want of affection but out of fear of evil spirits and his possibly malevolent soul. His kinfolk simply abandoned him. When a man was dying but had still some physical strength, he gave away his property and retired to an isolated spot to await death. He might take his own life after making the proper and final arrangements with his personal guardian spirits. Burial took place as soon after death as possible. Near relatives or close friends prepared the corpse with care, men attending to men and women to their own. The corpse was bathed, the face painted red, and the eyes sealed shut with clay. It was dressed in fine clothing, some of it donated by friends and relatives. The knees of the body were drawn up to the chest, the head was bent forward on it, and the flexed body was tied in this position. A blanket was wrapped and tied around the body which was then placed on a horse. Women, riding on either side or behind the corpse, took it to the place of burial, weeping and wailing as they went. Inaccessible crevices, washes, and similar spots were preferred for graves. The flexed and bound corpse was placed in a sitting position or on its side in the crevice, facing the rising sun. Bands that moved far away from mountainous and hilly country occasionally used the tree or scaffold burial common to many Plains tribes. In the scaffold burial, scaffolds were constructed of poles and the bodies were placed upon them; in tree burial, the bodies were wedged into the crotches of trees.
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CanyonAg77 said:

That is almost certainly the one i remember as a kid. Was there a date on the find?

I find it interesting that they feel certain it was pre-Coronado, so not Comanche My guess is the artifacts were Clovis or similar
"Arrow Points"... Clovis didn't have bows and arrows.. Had to be atlatls points.
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