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Seat selection? Tennessee is introducing this next year. I hope we don't do something this blatant. I hope a salary cap is also introduced to keep schools from finding new ways to ask alumni for money. College ADs will kill the golden goose with unbridled greed at some point.


https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5773813/2024/09/17/tennessee-football-ticket-prices-talent-fee/?source=user_shared_article
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In reply to Halconblack • 3:01p, 9/17/24
Every major program is going to Need to come up with an additional $20 million each year.

How do you propose they do it? This type of transparency is much better than trying to hide it somewhere else
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Stop paying it.
The reason they are able to do this is because too many of you are too addicted to quit. You're enablers.
I'm ready for the whole thing to blow up.
I loathe what's become of this once great game.
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3:10p, 9/17/24
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double the price of a chicken ranch wrap to $40.
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In reply to Halconblack • 3:41p, 9/17/24
they can ask all they want. not getting crap from me.
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In reply to Halconblack • 3:51p, 9/17/24
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Halconblack said:
Seat selection? Tennessee is introducing this next year. I hope we don't do something this blatant. I hope a salary cap is also introduced to keep schools from finding new ways to ask alumni for money. College ADs will kill the golden goose with unbridled greed at some point.


https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5773813/2024/09/17/tennessee-football-ticket-prices-talent-fee/?source=user_shared_article
Why not both?
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4:04p, 9/17/24
Pigs get fat. Hogs get slaughtered.
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4:09p, 9/17/24
For me, the answer is forever. I'll put somebody else's kids through college when I'm done with my own. So, like 2086.
94chem,
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4:11p, 9/17/24
Many people all over the country have shown the propensity to pay very significant amounts of money to go to games. They will load up half their back yard (generator, BBQ pit, cornhole boards, etc.) and a cooler or two of food and drink, get to the game hours early, unload half their back yard and a cooler or two of food and drink, cook the food, eat and drink, go to the game, afterward load up half their back yard, a cooler or two that used to have food and drink in them, drive home, unload half their back yard and a cooler or two that used to have food and drink in them. Others go without all that, but still pay for the tickets, parking, and those far away pay for two nights at a motel.

Prices go up, and still there is a large number of people who will pay the higher price. Will it ever stop? There may come a time when the players might have to write a letter to supporters, signed with an autopen, or show up and pretend to be interested at a meet and greet in order to keep the funds flowing.

As long as any entity can make people feel like they matter, or stroke their ego a bit, there will be people to pay the freight. After all, Aggies got convinced sitting in the end zone was special, lol.
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In reply to one safe place • 5:11p, 9/17/24
one safe place said:
Will it ever stop?
yo, I don't know
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5:17p, 9/17/24
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Why aren't there NIL booths at the game (inside the stadium and outside the stadium) where you can just place a "donation" and walk away? A 100,000 people donating $20 each is a nice sum of money. Do that each game!
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In reply to AggieOO • 5:17p, 9/17/24
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Turn off the lights and I'll glow.
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5:29p, 9/17/24
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Don't really care. They can call it what they want. Fact is there's a certain amount I will pay for a ticket. Once the total cost exceeds what I will pay, I will no longer buy tickets and they can sell them to someone else or go without that revenue. Supply and demand will work everything out. I'm already in the cheap seats, and we are currently nearing my maximum tolerable cost, so I guess it's up to the experts to try to maximize revenue without destroying demand.
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In reply to one safe place • 5:30p, 9/17/24
one safe place said:
Many people all over the country have shown the propensity to pay very significant amounts of money to go to games. They will load up half their back yard (generator, BBQ pit, cornhole boards, etc.) and a cooler or two of food and drink, get to the game hours early, unload half their back yard and a cooler or two of food and drink, cook the food, eat and drink, go to the game, afterward load up half their back yard, a cooler or two that used to have food and drink in them, drive home, unload half their back yard and a cooler or two that used to have food and drink in them. Others go without all that, but still pay for the tickets, parking, and those far away pay for two nights at a motel.

Prices go up, and still there is a large number of people who will pay the higher price. Will it ever stop? There may come a time when the players might have to write a letter to supporters, signed with an autopen, or show up and pretend to be interested at a meet and greet in order to keep the funds flowing.

As long as any entity can make people feel like they matter, or stroke their ego a bit, there will be people to pay the freight. After all, Aggies got convinced sitting in the end zone was special, lol.
Okay, this is greatness!
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In reply to TexasLeaguer • 5:36p, 9/17/24
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Why aren't there NIL booths at the game (inside the stadium and outside the stadium) where you can just place a "donation" and walk away? A 100,000 people donating $20 each is a nice sum of money. Do that each game!
Today the school can't sponsor that and there would be legal liability in Texas if the law as written today is "abrogated."

I'm not sure how long that will be true give the attempted House v. NCAA settlement effort. It isn't looking likely that settlement will go through as currently offered.
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5:48p, 9/17/24
Salary cap is dumb. If it is implemented then we're back to pre-NIL where everyone cheats and only tu, Bama, OSU, etc get a free pass from the NCAA
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5:52p, 9/17/24
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To hell with college football. It is very said what has become of a great sport. At this point, I am 100% apathetic with the entire sport and could not care less if it exists or not.

Also before someone makes a comment about not caring on a fansite about college football, I mainly just come here for the meltdowns. They are entertaining.
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7:50p, 9/17/24
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Salary cap could only be implemented if it's collectively bargained and agreed upon by a players union and the NCAA or conferences.

Even if we ever got to the point that there was a player's union, it wouldn't impact NIL that much since no league puts a restriction on how much or how many endorsements an athlete can have.

When the next media deal for a conference is NCAA is lower than the previous one for that conference then we'll know it's negatively impacting the popularity of college sports, but that's not for a while I think.
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In reply to Iowaggie • 9:50a, 9/18/24
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To be clear: the House settlement is designed to fund annual future payments to reflect with other existing payments to reflect roughly 50% of total revenue the schools receive but the additional payment is distributed based on specific sports in the past catch up payments. So football and men's basketball are the beneficiaries of those catchup payments.

That is supposed to be updated but depending on the courts to arbitrate isn't preferred. A CBA eliminates most anti-trust suits assuming the terms are correctly administered by the schools. But you need arms length negotiations to accomplish that legal protection and finding a stable means of accomplishing that is harder given no one really wants to see athletes as statutory employees including most athletes.
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In reply to agnerd • 10:23a, 9/18/24
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Don't really care. They can call it what they want. Fact is there's a certain amount I will pay for a ticket. Once the total cost exceeds what I will pay, I will no longer buy tickets and they can sell them to someone else or go without that revenue. Supply and demand will work everything out. I'm already in the cheap seats, and we are currently nearing my maximum tolerable cost, so I guess it's up to the experts to try to maximize revenue without destroying demand.
That's where I'm at with concert tickets these days. Its simply not worth it to me to pay ticket price + bs fees + parking to go see someone sound worse than they do on the radio.
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11:23a, 9/18/24
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College football games are already too expensive. Donating to NIL's arm race is pretty silly.
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Colleges will always raise prices as long as there are people to pay it. I love A&M and root for my Aggies, but I've mostly been priced out of attending in person. My last 3 games attended were New Mexico, UMASS, and New Mexico. I'm ok with it, though. I have an 82" TV and a cable subscription. The games look good from my couch.
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In reply to Iowaggie • 12:55p, 9/18/24
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Deion is right. And Deion is wrong.

He's right that players are now getting paid, and are now making more money than many of the people who are watching them. And for some of them, facing increased scrutiny is new and uncomfortable to them.

Deion is wrong in saying it is jealousy that is behind these players receiving more individual scrutiny. No, Deion, these players are professionals now. They are no longer student athletes in the original sense; and as such, they are no longer entitled to the kid gloves that unpaid student athletes were once afforded.

They have agents. They're flush with cash. And in many instances, they're still making bad decisions that kids make. Well, they're in the big boy leagues now, and they need to act like it. Criticism will come with the territory, because they are now professionals with a college logo on their helmet. Paying kids multiple six figures, then expecting them to be treated with kid gloves does not make them men. It will make them feel entitled, flush with cash, and ripe for exploitation and bad decisions.
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12:57p, 9/18/24
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Deon doesn't like the media attacking his players at all.

He doesn't like the competition for it.
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In reply to Halconblack • 1:02p, 9/18/24
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Seat selection? Tennessee is introducing this next year. I hope we don't do something this blatant. I hope a salary cap is also introduced to keep schools from finding new ways to ask alumni for money. College ADs will kill the golden goose with unbridled greed at some point.


https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5773813/2024/09/17/tennessee-football-ticket-prices-talent-fee/?source=user_shared_article
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Donation takes care of Operating expenses, travel, scholarships, probably a decent share of staff salaries, etc.

Talent Fee is just NIL $$$.

Donation isn't going away.
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In reply to jrdaustin • 1:04p, 9/18/24
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Deion is Right, that they are kids.

Deion is Wrong. If they aren't contributing at a level worth the investment they should be fired.

Now, we know that's not happening, but somewhere in the middle. Coaching Staffs are responsible for performance. ON and Off the field.
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In reply to jrdaustin • 1:05p, 9/18/24
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It is jealousy and trying to treat it like the top pro leagues. That's is ridiculous as it is just as ridiculous that fans here through the years treated scholarships as allowing them to be abusuve yo players. All junk.

The only thing athletes owed us was to work hard and keep their noses clean so we were not embarrassed. No one can guarantee championships. Holding coaches and administrators and regents accountable is understandable. Players have to be organized and led to win championships.
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In reply to $3 Sack of Groceries • 1:20p, 9/18/24
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Stop paying it.
The reason they are able to do this is because too many of you are too addicted to quit. You're enablers.
I'm ready for the whole thing to blow up.
I loathe what's become of this once great game.


User name definitely checks out.
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In reply to AggieOO • 1:25p, 9/18/24
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they can ask all they want. not getting crap from me.


They're not asking for that.
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1:28p, 9/18/24
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You know most people pay for their vices with mad money? You when paying for the vices overwhelms the required spend that you're in trouble…
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In reply to jrdaustin • 1:38p, 9/18/24
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jrdaustin said:
Iowaggie said:
Deion is right. And Deion is wrong.

He's right that players are now getting paid, and are now making more money than many of the people who are watching them. And for some of them, facing increased scrutiny is new and uncomfortable to them.

Deion is wrong in saying it is jealousy that is behind these players receiving more individual scrutiny. No, Deion, these players are professionals now. They are no longer student athletes in the original sense; and as such, they are no longer entitled to the kid gloves that unpaid student athletes were once afforded.

They have agents. They're flush with cash. And in many instances, they're still making bad decisions that kids make. Well, they're in the big boy leagues now, and they need to act like it. Criticism will come with the territory, because they are now professionals with a college logo on their helmet. Paying kids multiple six figures, then expecting them to be treated with kid gloves does not make them men. It will make them feel entitled, flush with cash, and ripe for exploitation and bad decisions.
Deion is an idiot. And like most idiots, he wants all the riches and none of the responsibility
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1:42p, 9/18/24
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There are no consequences for these players - they get paid regardless - can make mistakes with no consequences -can get arrested for real crime and still get paid- make more money than most in attendance - coach makes excuses for bad performance and criticizes fans who pay the price of ticket - nice position to be in if you are a player of a certain sport - sucks if you aren't one of the "golden sports"



I collect ticket stubs! looking for a 1944 orange bowl and 1981 independence bowl ticket stub as well as Aggie vs tu stubs - 1926 and below, 1935-1937, 1939-1944, 1946-1948, 1950-1951, 1953, 1956-1957, 1959, 1960, 1963-1966, 1969-1970, 1972-1974, 1980, 1984, 1990, 2004, 2008, 2010
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2:05p, 9/18/24
I am here for it and it will be fun to see what happens. As for it stopping, not it won't. There are lines of people waiting to pay for tickets no matter the cost and we want a winning team, and we will pay for it, no matter the cost.

Do kid yourselves, the cost could be $20 a ticket and then a $400 NIL tax on top of every ticket and the games would still all sell out. No one is walking away at any price.

The economy has been hit with the largest inflation in decades yet you go an airport or resort and planes and resorts a packed. People are still traveling, eating out, going to resorts and spending money. People still have lots of money.

College football is like the NFL, you can't kill it.

I am looking forward to seeing the 20 million a year Aggie QB or Wide Receiver, the 10 million a year DE, etc. Get the checkbooks ready.



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