If you are a 5* top 10 recruit who has offers from all the top schools, which school would you go? Leave out proximity to your home state, let's look at what the school has to offer and ability to develop you into an NFL player.

Earlier, it was Alabama. You were coached by the GOAT Saban, very likely to win a Natty in your 3-4 years, and highly likely to get drafted high. Maybe even win some awards if you were really good.

Now, I can't think of any school. Texas? No. Georgia, maybe but not in Alabama's (under Saban) class.
It seems like the pecking order has been flattened a lot more than earlier.

What position do I play?

TX_Aggie37 said:

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What position do I play?

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Doggy

Don't be fooled...Saban paid a lot $$ under the table at MSU, LSU and Bama. Yes, he demanded perfection, his way and could get in a players face w/o repurcussions (as they couldn't "leave"), but most of the time he had top talent depth (statistically 2-3 deep esp at LSU and Bama).

Today is money and development perception (and do think 'being on TV' for a bit of me, myself and I syndrome).

infinity ag said:

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If you are a 5* top 10 recruit who has offers from all the top schools, which school would you go? Leave out proximity to your home state, let's look at what the school has to offer and ability to develop you into an NFL player.

Earlier, it was Alabama. You were coached by the GOAT Saban, very likely to win a Natty in your 3-4 years, and highly likely to get drafted high. Maybe even win some awards if you were really good.

Now, I can't think of any school. Texas? No. Georgia, maybe but not in Alabama's (under Saban) class.
It seems like the pecking order has been flattened a lot more than earlier.

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Not all kids are the same. Some want player development and an NFL career, some want NIL, some want championships, some count on building relationships with coaches and other players, and some may even want a quality education...

Love the $$$ answers. Legit for a lot of the 5 stars but certainly not them all.

This is where Jimbo Fisher and Tom Herman screwed themselves. Going after exclusively the highest ranked players with little consideration to them as a human being.

Back to your question. Where would I go?

Hate to say it but Texas and Sarkisian would be a heavy consideration (maroon goggles removed). I really, really like Sarkisian as a coach and leader. Just stinks he is doing in Austin.

Kirby at Georgia would be high but I wouldn't want to go to a 3-4 deep school at every position.

Kiffen would be a consideration, too.

Certainly not OSU, USC, Michigan, FSU, Penn St, Clemson, Oregon, and many others.

Absolutely not PrimeTime!!!

Frankly, I dont like any particular coach and program right now. Sark is probably my favorite based on his interviews and player feedback. Be interesting to see where Bama goes.

Tough one. Wish I could say Elko and Aggies. Ask me again next year....

TX_Aggie37 said:

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What position do I play?

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Tell me how I start game 1.

$$$ there are a million and one factors that go into the decision & everyone is different, but it almost always comes down to money.

NFL statisticians broke it down & despite what people said, where they were from, desire to win championships, almost every player always went to whoever paid them the most. Same for NBA. MLB was not discussed.

Money is not the deciding factor 100% of the time for 100% of the players, but for a super majority it is. I would guess CFB in the NIL era is the same.


To answer the question: depends on what position I play, but in general (if Ags are out): Georgia.

Ohio St - even though I hate the Buckeyes if I was 5 star it's tough to beat
they have like 20-40M for NIL
They produce LOTS NFL talent
History
Facilities
Always in top 5 and mix for CFB

The median income for and ncaa athlete is $480 dollars. the average is 21,000. make what you want of the numbers. but, to me, the idea that that $$$ is everything when it comes to making great programs in college strikes me as pretty dumb and cynical.

Sark is not a good coach. He hasn't even played a road game in the SEC yet.

In the olden days, some liquor and a handy from an Aggie Hostess used to do the trick.

Now it's takes a fancy car, a Rollie and an introduction to the financial guru to figure out how much you'll get paid.

I don't think he knows just how deep the SEC gauntlet runs. If he couldn't win in Stillwater or Lubbock , they may not survive Starkville.

t sux and it's not due to my "maroon tinted glasses" either. Ohio State? Gross .. no.

Only other schools I'd consider (since A&M is off the table) would be UGA, after that 'bama or UT.

ccolley68 said:

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Bill Superman said:

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$$$

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This and nothing else. Sadly

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Making millions of dollars in NIL money, investing it so that by the time he graduates, he can retire.

LT would say hookers and blow.

Without any doubt
Texas A&M

dcg4403 said:

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Love the $$$ answers. Legit for a lot of the 5 stars but certainly not them all.

This is where Jimbo Fisher and Tom Herman screwed themselves. Going after exclusively the highest ranked players with little consideration to them as a human being.

Back to your question. Where would I go?

Hate to say it but Texas and Sarkisian would be a heavy consideration (maroon goggles removed). I really, really like Sarkisian as a coach and leader. Just stinks he is doing in Austin.

Kirby at Georgia would be high but I wouldn't want to go to a 3-4 deep school at every position.

Kiffen would be a consideration, too.

Certainly not OSU, USC, Michigan, FSU, Penn St, Clemson, Oregon, and many others.

Absolutely not PrimeTime!!!

Frankly, I dont like any particular coach and program right now. Sark is probably my favorite based on his interviews and player feedback. Be interesting to see where Bama goes.

Tough one. Wish I could say Elko and Aggies. Ask me again next year....

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steve sarksisian has had 1 great season in his head coaching career. maybe 2 tops. is texas on the upswing at the moment yeah it appears that way but it appeared that way for us 3 years ago. i just don't know that i would anoint old booger eater just yet.

if you are looking to go pro and ur confident u start no matter where u go then it's easy you got bama, georgia, or ohio st. they have by far the most draft picks over the last decade.

Nelson Wilbury said:

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infinity ag said:

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If you are a 5* top 10 recruit who has offers from all the top schools, which school would you go? Leave out proximity to your home state, let's look at what the school has to offer and ability to develop you into an NFL player.

Earlier, it was Alabama. You were coached by the GOAT Saban, very likely to win a Natty in your 3-4 years, and highly likely to get drafted high. Maybe even win some awards if you were really good.

Now, I can't think of any school. Texas? No. Georgia, maybe but not in Alabama's (under Saban) class.
It seems like the pecking order has been flattened a lot more than earlier.

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Not all kids are the same. Some want player development and an NFL career, some want NIL, some want championships, some count on building relationships with coaches and other players, and some may even want a quality education...

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Some don't want nil?

Any player with leverage in the recruiting process that doesn't want nil is an idiot. Other factors too? Sure.

But college football is a job now. Just like amount of pay is a factor in anyone's job choice.

Playing time and being able to "build their brand"
LA Austin & Miami are probably the 3 places with most upside ( NYC doesn't have a legit college team )
Both Williams and Ewers landed high paying gigs selling Dr Pepper I don't think it is coincidence they play ball in LA or Austin.

Not sure places like Oxford, BR, BCS, Norman etc will be able to compete with the kind of exposure you can get in places like LA

Sq 17 said:

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Playing time and being able to "build their brand"
LA Austin & Miami are probably the 3 places with most upside ( NYC doesn't have a legit college team )
Both Williams and Ewers landed high paying gigs selling Dr Pepper I don't think it is coincidence they play ball in LA or Austin.

Not sure places like Oxford, BR, BCS, Norman etc will be able to compete with the kind of exposure you can get in places like LA

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Building your brand is a myth to make fans feels better about giving college players millions who may never make a impact on programs. Those are two examples of hundreds of players who top the million dollar mark from the collective. These numbers are not talked about because espsn doesn't want to turn off fans and when you sign your nil deal it comes with a non disclosure agreement.

Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:

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dcg4403 said:

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Love the $$$ answers. Legit for a lot of the 5 stars but certainly not them all.

This is where Jimbo Fisher and Tom Herman screwed themselves. Going after exclusively the highest ranked players with little consideration to them as a human being.

Back to your question. Where would I go?

Hate to say it but Texas and Sarkisian would be a heavy consideration (maroon goggles removed). I really, really like Sarkisian as a coach and leader. Just stinks he is doing in Austin.

Kirby at Georgia would be high but I wouldn't want to go to a 3-4 deep school at every position.

Kiffen would be a consideration, too.

Certainly not OSU, USC, Michigan, FSU, Penn St, Clemson, Oregon, and many others.

Absolutely not PrimeTime!!!

Frankly, I dont like any particular coach and program right now. Sark is probably my favorite based on his interviews and player feedback. Be interesting to see where Bama goes.

Tough one. Wish I could say Elko and Aggies. Ask me again next year....

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steve sarksisian has had 1 great season in his head coaching career. maybe 2 tops. is texas on the upswing at the moment yeah it appears that way but it appeared that way for us 3 years ago. i just don't know that i would anoint old booger eater just yet.

if you are looking to go pro and ur confident u start no matter where u go then it's easy you got bama, georgia, or ohio st. they have by far the most draft picks over the last decade.

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Top 4 in the last decade:

1. 'bama
2. tOSU
3. lsu
4. UF

If look over the last 20 years you would be surprised at who is in the top 20. No teams from Texas.

Franklin University

Randy Rhodes said:

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TX_Aggie37 said:

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Here's your winner. Brilliant.

I know of one recent high profile recruit who chose his school based on it being close to home, and the fishing close to the campus. 5 star guy. While he's no doubt still getting paid good money he could've made more elsewhere. Money is a big factor, but not always the biggest.

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NFL statisticians broke it down & despite what people said, where they were from, desire to win championships, almost every player always went to whoever paid them the most. Same for NBA. MLB was not discussed.

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Yeah, I heard Jeff Bagwell say once that players priorities are to:

1. Make it to the league
2. Stay in the league.
3. Get paid.
and then
4. Win

He said that if a player doesn't agree with that, they're lying.

Which means any FBS player with any hope of playing in the NFL needs to choose a place he gets visibility to make it to the NFL. Not as simple as what you make.

I played in high school with Wade Wilson at Commerce High later Vikings starting and Cowboys QB bench and QB coach. He was looking at Rice first then was at what is now Texas A&M Commerce which allowed him the visibility he needed. I have no clue what other benefits he received btw. But his career matched the Bagwell rules.

True but all other things being equal the upfront $ are a significant driver .

halfastros81 said:

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True but all other things being equal the upfront $ are a significant driver .

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What upfront $$ are you talking about?

Geez, how freaking stupid are Aggies?

Designated Hitter. I don't care if it's baseball or football, either will do.

Who has the most money? And don't forget, I have the portal for next season if need be. Show me the money!

NIL $. You want to explain why that's stupid?

Here's what I think. Someone that calls others stupid all over the board has an intellectual security issue and your posting history reflects just that.