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NIL going forward….sorry if you all knew this already

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Aginnebraska said:

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That pesky antritrust laws make it unconstitutional..depriving the players from making a living
thats not how that works.

if there were no antitrust laws in place, the athletes would have no case to make
The application of existing anti-trust laws prevent NCAA and schools from colluding to the detriment of the players either by limiting or fixing NIL payments. That is the exact regime that existed when the NCAA didn't allow players to benefit from their NIL. A cap or ban on outside NIL payments and outside NIL deals is just a derivative of that old system.
At some point payments may be declared a gift (from outside sources) if NIL amount is determined to be over market, as they are attempting to establish. Lawyers will be at the ready.
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At some point payments may be declared a gift (from outside sources) if NIL amount is determined to be over market, as they are attempting to establish. Lawyers will be at the ready.
When has the IRS ever converted income to a gift because "over market" was paid?

NIL is income, that is how it is taxed.
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Raiderjay
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Texas Tech NIL collective founder Cody Campbell to co-chair President Donald Trump college sports commission

Cody Campbell and Nick Saban to Co-Chair Trump's College Sports Commission

"The commission on college sports is expected to "deeply examine the unwieldy landscape of college sports, including the frequency of player movement in the transfer portal, the unregulated booster compensation paid to athletes, the debate of college athlete employment, the application of Title IX to school revenue-share payments and, even, conference membership makeup and conference television contracts," according to Yahoo Sports"
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I find the possibility of Saban and Campbell making Snakey Sankey's ass pucker somewhat appealing.
BMX Bandit
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You think this commission is going to suggest things the SEC isn't for? That's funny.
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BMX Bandit said:

You think this commission is going to suggest things the SEC isn't for? That's funny.
Do you think Campbell, or anyone else, made billions by giving a howdy flip what other people are "for" or not? That's funny, too.

If you read his remarks it's clear where this is going. Tech and others are angling for a seat at the table and while they may not get it, they just might. It's definitely enough cause for concern if you're the SEC or B1G. And the way this **** show has gone so far, I won't be disappointed.
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Campbell is on a commission to make recommendations. They have no actual power to do anything.

And if he all he wants is a seat for tech at the table, B16 and SEC would gladly give them one if it means getting all the antitrust exemptions they seek.

Sankey and the others have been begging the feds to get involved. It's going exactly how they want so far.
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The commission has no power but it has influence. Otherwise it would not have been formed in the first place.

I think you missed the part where I said "Tech and others". Tech and Campbell have little influence on their own. Do you not think Baylor is going to jump into the middle of this commission "investigation"? or Stanford? Or any of the ACC / PAC / XII leftovers who fly through 4 time zones to play a women's softball game?

We're talking three dozen institutions who have considerable influence on federal lawmakers from their home states. Hell, if Baylor and Tech can gum up the works and force their way into the original Big XII, imagine what 30-40 of them can do.

The link below leaves no doubt whatsoever about where Campbell is going with this. The "enemies of the enemy are my friends" will be gathering, and every swinging peen who's been left out is going to jump into the onion dip. If Sankey and Pettiti felt inviting them was the solution, they wouldn't have left them out to begin with.

https://thefederalist.com/2025/03/20/d-c-decision-makers-could-kill-college-sports-by-giving-ncaa-big-dogs-a-legal-monopoly/

Like I said, when all is said and done, the have-nots may not get what they want and may remain have-nots. But to think disruption of the today's kingdom isn't on Sankey's radar is almost willfully ignoring it.
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Which state AG will strike this down first? Tennessee is the favorite


BMX Bandit
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That didn't last long.


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Days after gaining traction, President Donald Trump has paused the formation of a presidential commission on college athletics.

The White House's decision was made Wednesday morning after conversations with lawmakers, including U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), who suggested the commission's work be sidelined as they seek co-sponsorship on Cruz's long-developing bill to regulate college athletics, sources told CBS Sports. The presidential commission could return within the next 90 days, though no promises from the White House have been made, sources said.



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Which state AG will strike this down first? Tennessee is the favorite


No doubt as this agreement would require UT to violate state law
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Told you…
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Speaking of which? Why is Florida State not using the investment to leave the ACC???
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The Texas Tech softball team is just two wins away from the Women's College World Series for one spectacular reason.

It has a pitcher worth $1 million.

That's not hyperbole. Texas Tech's booster collective actually paid NiJaree Canady a cool million to transfer from Stanford, where she was already a star, and suit up for the Red Raiders this season.

And it looks like money well spent. Canady is responsible for 58% of Texas Tech's wins. She has posted 28 wins against just five losses and struck out 272 batters over 191 innings pitched through Tuesday.

"She's one of the top women athletes, so in my mind she deserved what some of those male athletes are getting," said Tracy Sellers, who funded an endorsement from the school's donor collective with her husband, John, a former Red Raiders defensive lineman. "I hope it's setting the stage for the next girl."

But athletes like Canady are suddenly an endangered species. That's because a new set of rules that would severely restrict how much boosters can pay college athletes is likely to be enacted in the coming days. The ripple effect could mean fewer softball players, golfers, sprinters and other athletes from lower-profile sports earning big paydays.

If and when Judge Claudia Wilken approves a settlement to a consolidation of three antitrust lawsuits brought by athletes against the major conferences and the NCAA, two big shifts are set to take place. First, each college athletic department will be allowed to share about $20 million of its annual revenues with athletes. But roughly 90% of that money is expected to go to the marquee sports of football and men's basketballleaving scraps for sports like softball.

Second, outside deals for athletes to profit from their name, image or likeness (NIL) would begin to go through a new clearinghouse built with help from Deloitte and overseen by a new entity set up to enforce the rules enacted by the settlement.

She's Softball's First $1 Million Pitcherand She Could Be the Last - WSJ
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greg.w.h said:

Speaking of which? Why is Florida State not using the investment to leave the ACC???


Clemson and FSU reached a settlement with the ACC that pegs the exit fee at $75 million in 2030 (and $165 million beginning next year while decreasing annually until 2030) and revised revenue distributions. Pretty far cry from $700 million.

Their lawsuits did the trick whenever they're ready to abscond rather than being caught by the shorthairs (dated phrase) until 2036.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/44108761/acc-florida-state-clemson-reach-revenue-distribution-settlement
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BMX Bandit said:

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Which state AG will strike this down first? Tennessee is the favorite


No doubt as this agreement would require UT to violate state law


It certainly won't be Texas because the new NIL law here says ncaa rules trump state law:


BMX Bandit
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trev says we will divide the ~20mm NIL as follows:

75% football
15% mens basketball
5% womens basketball
5% other sports
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BMX Bandit said:

trev says we will divide the ~20mm NIL as follows:

75% football
15% mens basketball
5% womens basketball
5% other sports
It will change over time as revenue sources change. One question is how that will work? A second is where these percentages came from?
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One question is how that will work?


The athletic department will provide each team the allotted dollar amount corresponding with the determined percentage

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A second is where these percentages came from?


Our AD's mouth.
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BMX Bandit said:

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One question is how that will work?


The athletic department will provide each team the allotted dollar amount corresponding with the determined percentage

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A second is where these percentages came from?


Our AD's mouth.
You missed in both questions. Not what did Trev say but how did they decide this year's allocations. And the notion it comes from the athletic department is dismissive. They're just the distributor.
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I answered what you asked. work on your questions
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BMX Bandit said:

I answered what you asked. work on your questions
The questions weren't really for you. So I'll let them stand as is as well as my response to your answers.
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House settlement has been approved


Will be interesting to see how schools divide up the football money to players
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In addition, while athletes will continue to be allowed to make name, image and likeness deals with entities other than their schools, there will be an effort by the power conferences (not the NCAA) to bring greater scrutiny to those arrangements, under the direction of a new entity called the College Sports Commission. Regardless of whether their school opts in to making NIL payments, any Division I athlete who has a deal, or deals, worth $600 or more will have to report those deals to (get ready for the new college-sports jargon) to system called "NIL Go." That data will then by be evaluated to determine whether the deal has a "valid business purpose" and is within "a reasonable range of compensation," whatever those terms are deemed to mean.

Clear as mud - nothing really changed

Rich get richer

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Ted Cruz wants to be College Sports Commissioner For Life…
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BMX Bandit said:

revvie said:

Sounds like more litigation is in the future for NCAA. Especially from athletes in non revenue sports. Do you think LSU would give Olivia Dunne $2+ million in their NIL allotment.
there is definitely more litigation coming, both on the title IX issues and NIL issues

but this deal would not limit what Dunne is making. she is getting legitimate market value NIL.


She brings also $0 to LSU. She's just a glorified only fans girls wearing purple and yellow.
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jrgypsum said:

In addition, while athletes will continue to be allowed to make name, image and likeness deals with entities other than their schools, there will be an effort by the power conferences (not the NCAA) to bring greater scrutiny to those arrangements, under the direction of a new entity called the College Sports Commission. Regardless of whether their school opts in to making NIL payments, any Division I athlete who has a deal, or deals, worth $600 or more will have to report those deals to (get ready for the new college-sports jargon) to system called "NIL Go." That data will then by be evaluated to determine whether the deal has a "valid business purpose" and is within "a reasonable range of compensation," whatever those terms are deemed to mean.

Clear as mud - nothing really changed

Rich get richer


Such BS. I'm sure it will be challenged and lose. Until then, sounds like we need someone to start a lemonade stand outside Kyle Field with a $50 million advertising budget.
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Who is already cheating? Alabama, ole miss, auburn or lsu.
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Female athletes lawsuit incoming.
BMX Bandit
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Title IX was the lawsuits everyone expected to see coming quickly out of this.

it helps that trump administration's position is title IX does not apply to NIL, but its not dispositive of the issue
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Here is the actual answer on the 75-15-5-5 split:

"How schools plan to divvy up to $20.5 million among their sports has been a point of contention, with no legal framework to follow. Most schools are expected to mirror the back-payment formula outlined in the $2.8 billion settlement. That means roughly 75% of future revenue will be shared with football players, 15% to men's basketball, 5% to women's basketball and 5% to all remaining sports. Some schools have opted to mirror the gross revenue each sport averages, which could lead to more than 85% of the salary pool being set aside for football players."

A&M does not have to follow that split but the SEC will likely provide binding guidelines.


https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/house-v-ncaa-settlement-approved-landmark-decision-opens-door-for-revenue-sharing-in-college-athletics/
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Gov. Greg Abbott signed a bill into law on Thursday morning that will dramatically alter NIL regulations in the Lone Star State, and the Texas A&M Aggies best take notice.

According to Nick Schultz of On3, HB126 will allow colleges to directly pay athletes, putting Texas in line with the recent House v. NCAA settlement. It will also allow high school athletes age 17 or over to sign NIL deals, whereas only collegiate athletes could previously.

Under the House v. NCAA settlement, schools will be able to pay athletes up to $20.5 million starting in 2025-26, the first school year of a 10-year agreement. Schools will also be able to participate in revenue sharing.

https://www.si.com/college/tamu/news/texas-gov-greg-abbott-signs-new-nil-bill-into-law
 
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