NyAggie said:

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Brining back the same guys on the oline for another year is almost always better than plugging in new guys.


Experience and cohesiveness are the two biggest keys to having a successful oline

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The same oline that repeatedly got blasted in high stakes, short yardage situations with the game on the line?
I personally hope strength training this offseason pays off- not being able to get a yard when it mattered most killed the team's chances of real success last November.

Maybe having Moss back will also help move the chains. It was a discouraging season in the trenches.

levypantsEOY said:

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NyAggie said:

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Brining back the same guys on the oline for another year is almost always better than plugging in new guys.


Experience and cohesiveness are the two biggest keys to having a successful oline

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The same oline that repeatedly got blasted in high stakes, short yardage situations with the game on the line?
I personally hope strength training this offseason pays off- not being able to get a yard when it mattered most killed the team's chances of real success last November.

Maybe having Moss back will also help move the chains. It was a discouraging season in the trenches.

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You must have forgotten 2023 already

Last year was significantly better than 2023 and it was year 1 of a new scheme. We should see more improvement this year and OL could be one of our strengths.

vander54 said:

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levypantsEOY said:

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NyAggie said:

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Brining back the same guys on the oline for another year is almost always better than plugging in new guys.


Experience and cohesiveness are the two biggest keys to having a successful oline

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The same oline that repeatedly got blasted in high stakes, short yardage situations with the game on the line?
I personally hope strength training this offseason pays off- not being able to get a yard when it mattered most killed the team's chances of real success last November.

Maybe having Moss back will also help move the chains. It was a discouraging season in the trenches.

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You must have forgotten 2023 already

Last year was significantly better than 2023 and it was year 1 of a new scheme. We should see more improvement this year and OL could be one of our strengths.

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I expect pretty much every position on offense to be at least a little better.

Just not being year 1 under a new offense alone will make an impact, especially at OL and QB

levypantsEOY said:

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NyAggie said:

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Brining back the same guys on the oline for another year is almost always better than plugging in new guys.


Experience and cohesiveness are the two biggest keys to having a successful oline

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The same oline that repeatedly got blasted in high stakes, short yardage situations with the game on the line?
I personally hope strength training this offseason pays off- not being able to get a yard when it mattered most killed the team's chances of real success last November.

Maybe having Moss back will also help move the chains. It was a discouraging season in the trenches.

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You conveniently left out this part of my post:
" Lots of folks seem to have forgotten the oline jump from 2019 to 2020: same group that was as just ok at best in 2019, came back to almost win the Joe Moore award in 2020"

NyAggie said:

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levypantsEOY said:

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NyAggie said:

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Brining back the same guys on the oline for another year is almost always better than plugging in new guys.


Experience and cohesiveness are the two biggest keys to having a successful oline

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The same oline that repeatedly got blasted in high stakes, short yardage situations with the game on the line?
I personally hope strength training this offseason pays off- not being able to get a yard when it mattered most killed the team's chances of real success last November.

Maybe having Moss back will also help move the chains. It was a discouraging season in the trenches.

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You conveniently left out this part of my post:
" Lots of folks seem to have forgotten the oline jump from 2019 to 2020: same group that was as just ok at best in 2019, came back to almost win the Joe Moore award in 2020"

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And that was a predictable improvement because so many returning as an upperclassmen. Pretty typical of OL to hit their stride late in their college career

vander54 said:

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levypantsEOY said:

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NyAggie said:

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Brining back the same guys on the oline for another year is almost always better than plugging in new guys.


Experience and cohesiveness are the two biggest keys to having a successful oline

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The same oline that repeatedly got blasted in high stakes, short yardage situations with the game on the line?
I personally hope strength training this offseason pays off- not being able to get a yard when it mattered most killed the team's chances of real success last November.

Maybe having Moss back will also help move the chains. It was a discouraging season in the trenches.

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You must have forgotten 2023 already

Last year was significantly better than 2023 and it was year 1 of a new scheme. We should see more improvement this year and OL could be one of our strengths.

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What was our QB's issue if the OL wasn't holding him back?

jamey said:

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NyAggie said:

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levypantsEOY said:

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NyAggie said:

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Brining back the same guys on the oline for another year is almost always better than plugging in new guys.


Experience and cohesiveness are the two biggest keys to having a successful oline

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The same oline that repeatedly got blasted in high stakes, short yardage situations with the game on the line?
I personally hope strength training this offseason pays off- not being able to get a yard when it mattered most killed the team's chances of real success last November.

Maybe having Moss back will also help move the chains. It was a discouraging season in the trenches.

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You conveniently left out this part of my post:
" Lots of folks seem to have forgotten the oline jump from 2019 to 2020: same group that was as just ok at best in 2019, came back to almost win the Joe Moore award in 2020"

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And that was a predictable improvement because so many returning as an upperclassmen. Pretty typical of OL to hit their stride late in their college career

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Right. And we have some upperclassmen oline coming back this season as well.

Zuhn
Fatheree
Bisontis
Reed-Adams
Crownover
Faaiu

Just to name a few

NyAggie said:

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jamey said:

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NyAggie said:

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levypantsEOY said:

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NyAggie said:

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Brining back the same guys on the oline for another year is almost always better than plugging in new guys.


Experience and cohesiveness are the two biggest keys to having a successful oline

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The same oline that repeatedly got blasted in high stakes, short yardage situations with the game on the line?
I personally hope strength training this offseason pays off- not being able to get a yard when it mattered most killed the team's chances of real success last November.

Maybe having Moss back will also help move the chains. It was a discouraging season in the trenches.

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You conveniently left out this part of my post:
" Lots of folks seem to have forgotten the oline jump from 2019 to 2020: same group that was as just ok at best in 2019, came back to almost win the Joe Moore award in 2020"

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And that was a predictable improvement because so many returning as an upperclassmen. Pretty typical of OL to hit their stride late in their college career

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Right. And we have some upperclassmen oline coming back this season as well.

Zuhn
Fatheree
Bisontis
Reed-Adams
Crownover
Faaiu

Just to name a few

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OL should definitely be a team strength, and with depth. I can't remember the last time I thought that, particularly the depth part

jamey said:

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NyAggie said:

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jamey said:

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NyAggie said:

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levypantsEOY said:

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NyAggie said:

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Brining back the same guys on the oline for another year is almost always better than plugging in new guys.


Experience and cohesiveness are the two biggest keys to having a successful oline

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The same oline that repeatedly got blasted in high stakes, short yardage situations with the game on the line?
I personally hope strength training this offseason pays off- not being able to get a yard when it mattered most killed the team's chances of real success last November.

Maybe having Moss back will also help move the chains. It was a discouraging season in the trenches.

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You conveniently left out this part of my post:
" Lots of folks seem to have forgotten the oline jump from 2019 to 2020: same group that was as just ok at best in 2019, came back to almost win the Joe Moore award in 2020"

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And that was a predictable improvement because so many returning as an upperclassmen. Pretty typical of OL to hit their stride late in their college career

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Right. And we have some upperclassmen oline coming back this season as well.

Zuhn
Fatheree
Bisontis
Reed-Adams
Crownover
Faaiu

Just to name a few

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OL should definitely be a team strength, and with depth. I can't remember the last time I thought that, particularly the depth part

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Yep

I'm expecting another step of improvement from these guys, and a significant one at that.

All depends on OL.

Clearly QB2 was Saturday and always will be better than QB1…