It was probably worth it. After he was hired, CU had a record number of new student applications and donations to not just the athletic department but also the school hit all-time record highs. They were on national TV seemingly every single week for 2+ seasons. It was no different than it was at A&M when we had "home run" hires with Fran and Jimbo. People around here were just as crazy then as the people in Colorado were a couple of years ago.

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Luke The Drifter said:

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It was probably worth it. After he was hired, CU had a record number of new student applications and donations to not just the athletic department but also the school hit all-time record highs. They were on national TV seemingly every single week for 2+ seasons. It was no different than it was at A&M when we had "home run" hires with Fran and Jimbo. People around here were just as crazy then as the people in Colorado were a couple of years ago.

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You put "home run" in quotes. You are correct to do that.

You think a bump in student applicants and athletic donations for a year or three was worth it? I disagree. Carnival barkers can get everyone excited about something for the short run. Then they head out with the money and leave you with nothing of real value.

My favorite thing Mike Elko has said at least twice since he's been at A&M is that this is a real program. No fast talking politicians. No gimmicks. You want to learn to play football better? Come here.

Fool's gold is worthless no matter how excited we or Colorado folks were when we bought it. Yes, we bought a lot of fool's gold ever the years. But Colorado's turn with fool's gold takes the cake for getting taken in. At least we could point at Jimbo's national title.

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There were Zoo posters that wanted him as our next coach. Insane!!

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Link please. I'd like to see the posts of more than 1 poster who wanted to hire Deion Sanders as the next coach at Texas A&M.

Deon has wooden hands

Even if it was just a 1-year bump, it was probably worth it to CU. It would not have been worth it at Bama or Ohio State or Georgia or Oregon…but for Colorado, that's as good as it gets. The best a program and school like that can hope for is some flashy, whizz-bang gimmick to draw some interest. They're not attracting anyone who will coach them into being a perennial power. They need flash and fireworks, even if it's short-lived.

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I know Deion has legit health issue and I wouldn't wish ill on anyone, but imo, he will use that as a reason why he won't return next year. Colorado doesn't want to fire him because then they labeled racist. SAS and espn would be out there that day claiming Prime is a victim of racism. Couldn't happen to a worse fanbase

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I was thinking about that. But a lot of black coaches get fired for not meeting football expectations.

However, you're right. He'll use his health as a ln excuse to step down/retire from coaching.

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Luke The Drifter said:

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It was probably worth it. After he was hired, CU had a record number of new student applications and donations to not just the athletic department but also the school hit all-time record highs. They were on national TV seemingly every single week for 2+ seasons. It was no different than it was at A&M when we had "home run" hires with Fran and Jimbo. People around here were just as crazy then as the people in Colorado were a couple of years ago.

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You put "home run" in quotes. You are correct to do that.

You think a bump in student applicants and athletic donations for a year or three was worth it? I disagree. Carnival barkers can get everyone excited about something for the short run. Then they head out with the money and leave you with nothing of real value.

My favorite thing Mike Elko has said at least twice since he's been at A&M is that this is a real program. No fast talking politicians. No gimmicks. You want to learn to play football better? Come here.

Fool's gold is worthless no matter how excited we or Colorado folks were when we bought it. Yes, we bought a lot of fool's gold ever the years. But Colorado's turn with fool's gold takes the cake for getting taken in. At least we could point at Jimbo's national title.

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This country has been always been attracted to the carnival barker schtick and, sadly, we seem to have been particularly susceptible to it as a culture over there psst decade. Mage church Preachers and politicians have taken the opportunity and run with it so why not coaches?

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Even back when he was playing for the Cowboys...
Everything Prime does is to benefit Prime. Maybe I'm wrong. I heard an interview he gave before he left for CU, and at the time, with what he'd done there I thought maybe he was genuinely looking out for and caring for those young men.. But I now wonder if it wasn't all performative art.

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You're not.

Deion has one person in mind always: himself. He may expand that to his family routinely, but it doesn't take away how he feels about himself.

Sure, he SAYS the right things when the cameras are rolling but it is mostly shtick.

I loved the speech where he told his team to take their hats off in the meeting while he was wearing a hat.

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Kenneth_2003 said:

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Even back when he was playing for the Cowboys...
Everything Prime does is to benefit Prime. Maybe I'm wrong. I heard an interview he gave before he left for CU, and at the time, with what he'd done there I thought maybe he was genuinely looking out for and caring for those young men.. But I now wonder if it wasn't all performative art.

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You're not.

Deion has one person in mind always: himself. He may expand that to his family routinely, but it doesn't take away how he feels about himself.

Sure, he SAYS the right things when the cameras are rolling but it is mostly shtick.

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Correct.

I am a huge Deion Sanders fan (he was a very good legit two-sport athlete). And he's a world class self-promoter. I gotta hand it to him. He's really good...but not at coaching.

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Colorado likely will never recover unless they can get associated more with Denver.

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Let's hope not. That place deserves it.

But I thought he was coming with his own luggage, and that luggage was Louis? Dude has always been "me, me, me".

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Only thing that would improve this is if Shedeureure gets cut

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You know, I thought Shedeur even being in consideration for Heisman and other awards was absurd. They weren't any good when he was there. But this year, their implosion is so bad, makes me think maybe Shedeur really was that good and the only reason they were as mediocre as they were was him and Hunter. But then I remember that no, he still sucks, just his dad is an even worse coach and leader of men.

Like most people he's got his Light Days and Heavy Days.
Extremely competitive, win at all cost, competed at a level non of us can relate too.
Soft place for young people he'd like to see make it in life.

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91AggieLawyer said:

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Sq4fish83 said:

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There were Zoo posters that wanted him as our next coach. Insane!!

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Link please. I'd like to see the posts of more than 1 poster who wanted to hire Deion Sanders as the next coach at Texas A&M.

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There are 2 on this page:

https://texags.com/forums/5/topics/3419826/2

At least one more:

https://texags.com/forums/5/topics/3347154/2

Another here:

https://texags.com/forums/5/topics/3332598

There were more. MANY more, but I'm not going to go to the trouble of looking everyone up. I'm sorry you missed them, but calling out other posters when YOU were misinformed (or simply forgot) is worthy of a mea culpa.

Don't you think?

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There absolutely were a multitude of posters begging for Prime. "Think of the hype, the sizzle" etc. Memories are quite short around here

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There were definitely more than one. I'd say a handful.

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The first three weeks he skipped the team meetings he had scheduled with us. The first three weeks we were working out we did not get to see him, talk to him, interact with him, hear from him nothing."

"He keeps the door to his office closed and usually during practice he's on the golf cart, so your personal intimate interaction with him is pretty limited."

"He made himself very unapproachable with his door being closed and the sign that says 'DON'T COME IN UNLESS ASKED TO COME IN.'"

"He's got a red carpet outside his door that says 'DON'T STEP ON THIS MAT UNLESS YOUR SHOES ARE OFF, DON'T COME IN UNLESS INVITED.'"

"I went to shake Deion's hand [after being cut from the team] and said 'Thank you, Coach', and he said 'Yeah, buddy, you got it' and pointed at the door. He wouldn't even look me in the eye.'"

"I was alone in the elevator with him. I'd say 'Hey, Coach Prime, how you doing, it's good to see you'. He was on his phone typing and he would just look up at me and go back to his phone. Not even a nod. No acknowledgement that I was even there. Flat-out ignored me."

"I did the same thing [in the elevator], 'Hey, Coach, how you doing?' and he looked up from his phone and said 'Hey, buddy, press 5.' So, I pressed the fifth floor and just shut up. That was the fourth time I tried to speak with him alone. I was trying to talk to him man-to-man and he wouldn't acknowledge me."

"He's dapping up all the people he brought in, and hugging on the players that came with him from Jackson, and the guys he brought in from south Florida and all these other schools, and wouldn't even nod in my direction."

"I thought he was going to come in and mentor me and kind of take me under his wing because he wanted to see people like me who grew up with their mom and are of African-American descent excel. And then to be ignored and eventually dismissed hurt."

"They told me [an injured walk-on player] through email you had to be an 'active member of the team to be on the sideline.' Obviously, The Rock and Lil Wayne are active members of the roster."

"Typically, at the spring game when the parents fly in they get to meet the position coach and meet the head coach. Deion had been our coach for five months at that time and he refused to meet with any of the parents. That set off red flags in my mom's head."

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Where are these quotes from? Article link?

cmsaggie12 said:

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Seamaster said:

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The first three weeks he skipped the team meetings he had scheduled with us. The first three weeks we were working out we did not get to see him, talk to him, interact with him, hear from him nothing."

"He keeps the door to his office closed and usually during practice he's on the golf cart, so your personal intimate interaction with him is pretty limited."

"He made himself very unapproachable with his door being closed and the sign that says 'DON'T COME IN UNLESS ASKED TO COME IN.'"

"He's got a red carpet outside his door that says 'DON'T STEP ON THIS MAT UNLESS YOUR SHOES ARE OFF, DON'T COME IN UNLESS INVITED.'"

"I went to shake Deion's hand [after being cut from the team] and said 'Thank you, Coach', and he said 'Yeah, buddy, you got it' and pointed at the door. He wouldn't even look me in the eye.'"

"I was alone in the elevator with him. I'd say 'Hey, Coach Prime, how you doing, it's good to see you'. He was on his phone typing and he would just look up at me and go back to his phone. Not even a nod. No acknowledgement that I was even there. Flat-out ignored me."

"I did the same thing [in the elevator], 'Hey, Coach, how you doing?' and he looked up from his phone and said 'Hey, buddy, press 5.' So, I pressed the fifth floor and just shut up. That was the fourth time I tried to speak with him alone. I was trying to talk to him man-to-man and he wouldn't acknowledge me."

"He's dapping up all the people he brought in, and hugging on the players that came with him from Jackson, and the guys he brought in from south Florida and all these other schools, and wouldn't even nod in my direction."

"I thought he was going to come in and mentor me and kind of take me under his wing because he wanted to see people like me who grew up with their mom and are of African-American descent excel. And then to be ignored and eventually dismissed hurt."

"They told me [an injured walk-on player] through email you had to be an 'active member of the team to be on the sideline.' Obviously, The Rock and Lil Wayne are active members of the roster."

"Typically, at the spring game when the parents fly in they get to meet the position coach and meet the head coach. Deion had been our coach for five months at that time and he refused to meet with any of the parents. That set off red flags in my mom's head."

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https://foxsportsradio.iheart.com/alternate/amp/2023-12-05-former-colorado-players-blow-the-whistle-on-deion-sanders-coaching-flaws/

CU and their fans and their alumni are the absolute WORST. I'd pay for my kids to go to t.u. if it kept them out of the People's Republic of Boulder. Absolute trash...

Rough weekend for Prime. His buyout is $33 million. At least Shedeur wasn't awful yesterday vs. Raiders.

Couldn't happen to a better fan base