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I guess my question was, if they didn't technically fire him, why are they offering to settle with someone who is still and employee?

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its the timing of the termination that is the issue, not whether he was terminated. no one thinks he is still the coach

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But they were offering to settle shortly after that Sunday, not before the the claim that Woodward did not have authority to fire him.

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Correct. Why would you make multiple settlement offers to someone you hadn't fired yet?

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Correct. Why would you make multiple settlement offers to someone you hadn't fired yet?

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i think you are misunderstanding the issue.

(based on the lawsuit filed by kelly, what happened was) LSU decides to terminate kelly and he is told he is fired, formal notice will come. they then try to work a deal.


its not unusual to try to work out a deal when you owe someone money. especially that much

"Formal" notice wasn't made until this past Monday, correct? The settlement offers had come sometime in the previous two weeks. I would think that if lsu representatives had relieved him of his duties (the day after we beat them) and he was receiving settlement offers, then he could reasonably consider himself to be terminated and I think any reasonable person would think the same. lsu can claim that he was fired any time they like, but nobody else is going to see it that way is all I'm sayin...

i don't disagree with any of that

How is Saban the leading candidate for the LSU job? Why in the world would he step into that mess?

https://www.betonline.ag/sportsbook/futures-and-props/ncaaf-specials/coaches

Saban +200 (~33%)
Kiffin + 375
Brady +400
Lea +500
Lanning +700
Franklin +900

My favorite theory so far is that

• BK was not fired via a written letter or statement so it was not official at the initial meeting.
• After the A&M game they had a by week in which BK went on a vacation to Florida
• He went on vacation without seeking permission and should have been planning for the Alabama game
• His absence constituted a failure to perform his duties as head football coach
• Therefore he is now formally fired with cause.

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Couple of posts above mentioned fired AD Woodward. He also had a buyout, did he not? $6.5 million according to google. Any word on if lsu is going to honor the terms of his buyout? Tin foil hat has me thinking that they try to tie his buyout with the same BS unless he admits in court that he didn't have the authority to fire BK in an effort to make lsu's claims seem somewhat plausible. Thoughts?

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I would guess that Woodward would like to continue to work in University Athletics. So far, this isn't on him. This is LSU's mess that was completely created by the governor and/or other BMTs. If, in order to protect LSU and throw BK under the bus, Woodward was to agree to admit under oath that he knowingly let BK go without authorization, Woodward would subsequently be toxic to any prospective university AND any potential coach he would be interested in hiring in the future.

I would guess that Woodward's prospects through the remainder of his career well exceed the $6.5M he might be shorted by not playing LSU's game.

If this scenario were to be attempted by LSU, I wouldn't be surprised to see Woodward wind up as a witness FOR Brian Kelly...

Throw into this imbroglio that this will all be litigated under Napoleonic law. Under the principle of Redhibition a "buyer" may sue if a "product" has a non-apparent defect that the seller knew about;
someone might end up with a trip to the guillotine!

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BK's counsel could easily argue "apparent authority" even if Woodward didn't have "actual authority", along with a lot of other quotes from across that administration all the way up to the governor, and easily win this case.

Such a bad look for a once-heralded enterprise. What would be head coach would want to walk into that snakepit?

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Court and judge are in the state of Louisiana. Don't ever count on easily winning any case there in the swamp. That place is rife with corruption.

Somebody needs to make a phone call and suggest to the man in Louisiana that they need to stop the sleaze and arrange for LSU to honor the coach's contract or risk certain expulsion from the SEC.

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His contract states that if they were firing him for cause that they had to inform him of this within 7 days of termination (it has been 16 days now).

They are trying to back track and say that he wasn't officially terminated until yesterday because Woodward didn't have the authority to fire him without the approval of the board (which has now approved it supposedly).

They informed BK yesterday that he is being fired for cause. We don't know yet what the accusation is, but sounds like it might have something to do with how he handled the Greg Brooks situation (a player that was diagnosed with cancer in 2023)

This is going to get ugly. Love it.

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Yeah, the problem is the BOS acknowledged the firing and their knowledge of it in their 8am public meeting a week ago. They can't refire him for cause.

Brian Kelly's son running out alone on LSU's Senior Night, turning to the camera & saying, "LONG LIVE BK! FREE MY BOY! FREE MY BOY BK!" like he's in prison instead of getting a $54 million buyout is a Top 5 moment of the 2025 CFB season. 😭 pic.twitter.com/Gt1K8no15j

— College Sports Only (@CSOonX) November 23, 2025

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Brian Kelly's son running out alone on LSU's Senior Night, turning to the camera & saying, "LONG LIVE BK! FREE MY BOY! FREE MY BOY BK!" like he's in prison instead of getting a $54 million buyout is a Top 5 moment of the 2025 CFB season. 😭 pic.twitter.com/Gt1K8no15j

— College Sports Only (@CSOonX) November 23, 2025

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Can you imagine referring to your father as "my boy"

Yankees...

Only thing worse is yankees trying to be Southern

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Attorneys for Brian Kelly have informed LSU in a letter that the school's claim that it had not "formally terminated" Kelly as its football coach has "made it nearly impossible" for him to get another coaching job.

According to the letter, which was sent Nov. 18 to LSU athletic director Verge Ausberry and board of supervisors member John H. Carmouche, Kelly says he "reserves all rights to seek any and all damages to the fullest extent permitted by law" for the interference in any potential job candidacy.

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Dumpster fire rages on in Baton Rouge

Looks like Brian Kelly is prepping to counter sue (or just sue?) over his firing. They're about to make Kiffin the highest paid coach in college football and they are still having trouble admitting that they fired the last coach before him.

Clown show in Death Valley...

Kiffin and Sexton may get a $95M check up front out of this. That's the only way a real coach with any leverage is gonna walk into this...

If I am Kiffin I need my contract paid in full by wire transfer with no stipulations that can cause him to have to pay it back before I get on the plane to head over there.

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Looks like Brian Kelly is prepping to counter sue (or just sue?) over his firing

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He sued then two weeks ago


Lots of Morons on the LSU attorney team:

Per @DanWetzel and @PeteThamel, a member of LSU’s Board of Supervisors asked Brian Kelly’s lawyers to withdraw his lawsuit before LSU would say whether he was terminated “for cause” or “without cause.” Geaux Tigers! Nice try. 🙄

Kelly’s lawyers predictably responded with 🖕🏼. https://t.co/jw6gZIIX4E

— Tom Mars (@TomMarsLaw) November 25, 2025

I guess it's in the contract (not that contracts matter to LSU), but I wonder why schools don't make former coaches under contract still work for the school in some capacity.

Kind of like we did with RC.


At the least, the school could have more leverage in renegotiating a buy-out. Put BK to cleaning up Mikes cage or something.

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I guess it's in the contract (not that contracts matter to LSU), but I wonder why schools don't make former coaches under contract still work for the school in some capacity.

Kind of like we did with RC.


At the least, the school could have more leverage in renegotiating a buy-out. Put BK to cleaning up Mikes cage or something.

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That seems like a good way to run off potential new coaches. But of course everything LSU is doing right now is probably having the same effect.

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I guess it's in the contract (not that contracts matter to LSU), but I wonder why schools don't make former coaches under contract still work for the school in some capacity.

Kind of like we did with RC.

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because no good coach would sign that contract. their contracts say they are hired to be head football coach.

we didn't "make" RC stay. he was allowed to hang around in a new job because there was a mutual desire.

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Kiffin is a dumbass if he takes the LSU job. An absolute dumbass.

Same money at Ole Miss and Florida without the drama nor the backwards corruptness of LA.

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Don't sweat it Lane, we stiffed the other guy but we won't stiff you.

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YouBet said:

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Kiffin is a dumbass if he takes the LSU job. An absolute dumbass.

Same money at Ole Miss and Florida without the drama nor the backwards corruptness of LA.

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Don't sweat it Lane, we stiffed the other guy but we won't stiff you.

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Lots of Morons on the LSU attorney team:

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Tru dat. And they're apparently being guided by none other than well known billboard trial attorney Gordon McKernan.

I find amusement in knowing that McKernan's advertising bit is "Get Gordon And Get It Done"

Sources: Brian Kelly has been informed in writing that he’s been terminated by LSU without cause. This means LSU is set to owe him the nearly $54 million remaining on his contract.

— Pete Thamel (@PeteThamel) November 26, 2025

What the hell did they go through all of this for then? Is LSU really that dumb?

Trying that nonsense to begin with was the dumbest part. Looks like they've come to their senses. A bit at least.

LSU is effing stupid.

You can't fire a coach then say you didnt, then you do, he sues, you ask him to drop suit without telling him if with or without cause, then come out and say without.

His lawyers are now in good standing to say LSU has tarnished him and can't find a job. They're going to need to settle for 80%+ lump sum immediate payment for this to go away. It will never play out well for them

LSU is definitely going to have to expand the charities they can loot in order to fund this and potentially Kiffie. Can't possibly be enough children's hospitals in the state to make the nut.

LSU football is a total train wreck. How do you mess up a firing this bad. Talk about s*****g the bed.

Again, Kiffin would be dumb to take this job.