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2:42p, 11/30/25
but it's a transactional system rn
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Feel bad for Ole Miss. They deserve better. They should have given him the boot when he started the drama party.
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2:47p, 11/30/25
Is anyone really surprised??? It's his M.O.
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In reply to 83Aggie • 2:49p, 11/30/25
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Feel bad for Ole Miss. They deserve better. They should have given him the boot when he started the drama party.


They knew what they were getting into when they hired him.

Their problem was success and not managing to lock him in.

Plus, he's a petulant pain when you don't give him everything he wants and will now burn it all down as he leaves.
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2:54p, 11/30/25
I don't know why anyone is blaming him.....everyone created this situation.

  • Players wanted NIL and transfer portal
  • Schools / fans with big money donors love the transfer portal to get top talent cause they like winning
  • Smaller schools or non-blue blood (i.e. Tech) are now more relevant
  • Players like getting paid big money every year even if it means transferring
This is like youth sports today. It's year-round. Non-stop. Parents complain about tournaments every weekend and out of state.... $500 baseball bats...blah blah....but they all feed into it.

To quote a wise philosopher..."Don't hate the player....hate the game."
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In reply to petebaker • 3:13p, 11/30/25
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petebaker said:
He is right about this.

But Kiffin is an enemy.

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4:16p, 11/30/25
If Lane had any class and commitment to his Ole MIss players, he would have told LSU "talk to me after the playoffs....if you don't like that, then I'm happy with my extension at Ole Miss". Instead, he threatens the Ole Miss administration that he'll pull his staff immediately if they don't let him coach the playoffs. Then he tells is offensive staff, you either get on the plane with me to LSU today, or you're not coming to LSU. Why would he do that to the players? Because it's all about him. So yeah....I blame Lane. The system may be bad, but he didn't have to play his hand like that.
A&M....give us room!
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In reply to Tex117 • 5:07p, 11/30/25
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Tex117 said:
petebaker said:
He is right about this.

But Kiffin is an enemy.


Quick tell me who Pollack's agent is

The only people defending Kiffin are sextons clients

The more you know
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5:11p, 11/30/25
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Lane Kiffen loves Lane Kiffen and will always be Lane Kiffen. The pseudo Dabo / Saban act is only an act.
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Players are free agents moving every year so why can't the coach… I also find it hard to believe LSU and Ole Miss on even playing fields when it comes to football and resources to win it all. And LSU is paying for Lane so they want him now. Money talks and there is a pecking order. Sucks but that's our football.
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In reply to fulshearAg96 • 5:22p, 11/30/25
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Players are free agents moving every year so why can't the coach… I also find it hard to believe LSU and Ole Miss on even playing fields when it comes to football and resources to win it all. And LSU is paying for Lane so they want him now. Money talks and there is a pecking order. Sucks but that's our football.

Ole Miss matched LSU's yearly salary.
Lane wanted to leave.
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In reply to 83Aggie • 5:26p, 11/30/25
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Feel bad for Ole Miss. They deserve better. They should have given him the boot when he started the drama party.


Should have pulled the lsu and reassigned him the moment the rumor started. Them appointed the DC as the acting head coach and won some games under him at the helm.

Hindsight is 2020
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In reply to Ray Baker • 5:32p, 11/30/25
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Kiffin has repeatedly stated his desire to coach Ole Miss in the playoffs

Well he can't have his cake and eat it too.

Kiffin knew it was extremely weird to ask to stay on to coach while you are the coach of a direct competitor. That was not going to be allowed. He knew that. (and before you start with the but, but Tulane and Florida!!, Those schools are not competing for recruits or against one another.)


Kiffin chose to go to LSU. That is his right. I don't fault him for it. But this is not remotely comparable to Elko or the other coaches you named.

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In reply to Panama Red • 5:37p, 11/30/25
To your point, do you think Lane would have accepted a deal of getting to coach in the playoffs in exchange for agreeing that he would not accept any Ole Miss player as a transfer to LSU?

I think we all know the answer to that!

For our LSU Friend Ray Baker you'd be better served not trying to excuse the unusual and unprecedented way in which Lane left. Just say "it sucks for Ole Miss, but given the time line LSU and Lane had to act now."

I'm Gipper
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5:38p, 11/30/25
Dana X. Bible is grinning in his grave.
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In reply to JROD9398 • 5:40p, 11/30/25
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JROD9398 said:
I don't know why anyone is blaming him.....everyone created this situation.

  • Players wanted NIL and transfer portal
  • Schools / fans with big money donors love the transfer portal to get top talent cause they like winning
  • Smaller schools or non-blue blood (i.e. Tech) are now more relevant
  • Players like getting paid big money every year even if it means transferring
This is like youth sports today. It's year-round. Non-stop. Parents complain about tournaments every weekend and out of state.... $500 baseball bats...blah blah....but they all feed into it.

To quote a wise philosopher..."Don't hate the player....hate the game."

Amen
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In reply to Panama Red • 5:44p, 11/30/25
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Kiffin has repeatedly stated his desire to coach Ole Miss in the playoffs

Well he can't have his cake and eat it too.

Kiffin knew it was extremely weird to ask to stay on to coach while you are the coach of a direct competitor. That was not going to be allowed. He knew that. (and before you start with the but, but Tulane and Florida!!, Those schools are not competing for recruits or against one another.)


Kiffin chose to go to LSU. That is his right. I don't fault him for it. But this is not remotely comparable to Elko or the other coaches you named.


You make great points and I agree with you.
The conundrum here is a coach turning down a job that he wants because his current team is making the playoffs.
Lane believes that LSU is a better job than Ole Miss, and he probably made that decision weeks ago after Kelly was fired and prior to Ole Miss being a playoff contender. This was supposed to be a rebuilding year for them.
He absolutely wanted the LSU job in 2021 when Kelly was hired. That has been documented.
So, should he not take the job he wants that has a better chance to win championships because of his current team?
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In reply to Ray Baker • 5:49p, 11/30/25
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So, should he not take the job he wants that has a better chance to win championships because of his current team?

He should take the job he wants when he can. It is his life and his goals/dreams to meet.

But with decisions come criticism. And the criticism he is getting is deserved.

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In reply to Ray Baker • 5:52p, 11/30/25
Ray Baker said:
Panama Red said:
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Kiffin has repeatedly stated his desire to coach Ole Miss in the playoffs

Well he can't have his cake and eat it too.

Kiffin knew it was extremely weird to ask to stay on to coach while you are the coach of a direct competitor. That was not going to be allowed. He knew that. (and before you start with the but, but Tulane and Florida!!, Those schools are not competing for recruits or against one another.)


Kiffin chose to go to LSU. That is his right. I don't fault him for it. But this is not remotely comparable to Elko or the other coaches you named.


You make great points and I agree with you.
The conundrum here is a coach turning down a job that he wants because his current team is making the playoffs.
Lane believes that LSU is a better job than Ole Miss, and he probably made that decision weeks ago after Kelly was fired and prior to Ole Miss being a playoff contender. This was supposed to be a rebuilding year for them.
He absolutely wanted the LSU job in 2021 when Kelly was hired. That has been documented.
So, should he not take the job he wants that has a better chance to win championships because of his current team?


It's not him taking the job and leaving that's the issue, and you know it. It's how he handled literally every step of the process and how he treated people, including his own players, on the way out the door. You know this, and I sure hope you realize the false equivalency to your ridiculous take and are just trying to be a troll. Either way, I don't think anyone should be responding to your posts intended purely to rile people up. Which you are failing at anyway.
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In reply to Panama Red • 5:52p, 11/30/25
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Panama Red said:
Ray Baker said:
TAMUallen said:
Ray Baker said:
I'm sure this board was saying the same thing when Sumlin left Houston for A&M
Or when Fran left Bama for A&M
Or when Fisher left FSU for A&M
Or when Elko left Duke for A&M

You were all up in arms over that, right?


You're joking, right?

I'm genuinely curious - was Texags melting over A&M poaching coaches the same way they are about Lane leaving Ole Miss for LSU?
Was everyone here feeling sorry for Duke players when Elko left?

Remind me, did Elko leave Duke right as the playoffs were about to start?

I'm genuinely curious as to how you don't see the Grand Canyon size difference between the two situations.

Here we go:

Sumlin accepted the A&M job on 12/10 after Houston lost the C-USA championship game (12/3). A&M had fired Sherman on 12/1. Houston was 12-1 and went to the Ticket City Bowl (beat Penn State).
So no real difference between this and any other coaching hire. Houston at 12-1 was not even in a BCS Bowl.

RC was fired on 12/2. Fran was hired on 12/5 - after Alabama had finished their season on 11/30 - not eligible for post season. They also weren't going to be eligible in 2003. How is this comparable?

Sumlin fired on 11/26. Jimbo hired on 12/4 - 2 days after completing 6-6 regular season. While the flirting was going on prior to season end - it was mostly hushed and rumors that no one believed. And FSU was 6-6.

Fisher fired on 11/12. Elko hired on 11/27 - 2 days (11/25) after completing regular season (7-5). And Bjork tried to hire Stoops on 11/25.

So while all of these had conversations with A&M prior to finishing their respective seasons....
- none of the incoming coaches were flying their families to preview A&M two weeks prior to finishing their seasons. (While pretending he might still stay.)
- none had much to play for at the end of the season (even Houston).
- NONE still had a chance to win a national championship
- none did this while dragging along their current employer and then going to a rival
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At the end of the day, who really gives a s***!!! This type of stuff is gonna happen every year especially in this era of football. Coaches and players alike.
We've got the playoffs to worry about. And when that's over, we've got a lot of work to do with recruiting/portal/NIL.
Our Aggies are gonna have to spend some money and steal some players out of the portal this offseason. We're losing a bunch of good players. Other schools will be hating on us when we grab some of that top talent.
Whip out that wallet Ags. It's how we stay relevant.
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In reply to NBTXAG • 6:02p, 11/30/25
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At the end of the day, who really gives a s***!!! This type of stuff is gonna happen every year especially in this era of football. Coaches and players alike.
We've got the playoffs to worry about. And when that's over, we've got a lot of work to do with recruiting/portal/NIL.
Our Aggies are gonna have to spend some money and steal some players out of the portal this offseason. We're losing a bunch of good players. Other schools will be hating on us when we grab some of that top talent.
Whip out that wallet Ags. It's how we stay relevant.

How much are you whipping out?
Ronnie '88
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In reply to Kaiser von Wilhelm • 6:03p, 11/30/25
Kaiser von Wilhelm said:
Ray Baker said:
Panama Red said:
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Kiffin has repeatedly stated his desire to coach Ole Miss in the playoffs

Well he can't have his cake and eat it too.

Kiffin knew it was extremely weird to ask to stay on to coach while you are the coach of a direct competitor. That was not going to be allowed. He knew that. (and before you start with the but, but Tulane and Florida!!, Those schools are not competing for recruits or against one another.)


Kiffin chose to go to LSU. That is his right. I don't fault him for it. But this is not remotely comparable to Elko or the other coaches you named.


You make great points and I agree with you.
The conundrum here is a coach turning down a job that he wants because his current team is making the playoffs.
Lane believes that LSU is a better job than Ole Miss, and he probably made that decision weeks ago after Kelly was fired and prior to Ole Miss being a playoff contender. This was supposed to be a rebuilding year for them.
He absolutely wanted the LSU job in 2021 when Kelly was hired. That has been documented.
So, should he not take the job he wants that has a better chance to win championships because of his current team?


It's not him taking the job and leaving that's the issue, and you know it. It's how he handled literally every step of the process and how he treated people, including his own players, on the way out the door. You know this, and I sure hope you realize the false equivalency to your ridiculous take and are just trying to be a troll. Either way, I don't think anyone should be responding to your posts intended purely to rile people up. Which you are failing at anyway.

Explain - given the directives from Ole Miss and their AD, how should this have been handled?
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In reply to CC00 • 6:10p, 11/30/25
CC00 said:
Panama Red said:
Ray Baker said:
TAMUallen said:
Ray Baker said:
I'm sure this board was saying the same thing when Sumlin left Houston for A&M
Or when Fran left Bama for A&M
Or when Fisher left FSU for A&M
Or when Elko left Duke for A&M

You were all up in arms over that, right?


You're joking, right?

I'm genuinely curious - was Texags melting over A&M poaching coaches the same way they are about Lane leaving Ole Miss for LSU?
Was everyone here feeling sorry for Duke players when Elko left?

Remind me, did Elko leave Duke right as the playoffs were about to start?

I'm genuinely curious as to how you don't see the Grand Canyon size difference between the two situations.

Here we go:

Sumlin accepted the A&M job on 12/10 after Houston lost the C-USA championship game (12/3). A&M had fired Sherman on 12/1. Houston was 12-1 and went to the Ticket City Bowl (beat Penn State).
So no real difference between this and any other coaching hire. Houston at 12-1 was not even in a BCS Bowl.

RC was fired on 12/2. Fran was hired on 12/5 - after Alabama had finished their season on 11/30 - not eligible for post season. They also weren't going to be eligible in 2003. How is this comparable?

Sumlin fired on 11/26. Jimbo hired on 12/4 - 2 days after completing 6-6 regular season. While the flirting was going on prior to season end - it was mostly hushed and rumors that no one believed. And FSU was 6-6.

Fisher fired on 11/12. Elko hired on 11/27 - 2 days (11/25) after completing regular season (7-5). And Bjork tried to hire Stoops on 11/25.

So while all of these had conversations with A&M prior to finishing their respective seasons....
- none of the incoming coaches were flying their families to preview A&M two weeks prior to finishing their seasons. (While pretending he might still stay.)
- none had much to play for at the end of the season (even Houston).
- NONE still had a chance to win a national championship
- none did this while dragging along their current employer and then going to a rival

It's fair to say that social media back then was not what it is today. You have no idea the details that went into the hires of Fran, Sumlin, Fisher, and Elko like you do with Kiffin moving from OM to LSU
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In reply to Kaiser von Wilhelm • 6:11p, 11/30/25
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Kaiser von Wilhelm said:
Ray Baker said:
Panama Red said:
Quote:
Kiffin has repeatedly stated his desire to coach Ole Miss in the playoffs

Well he can't have his cake and eat it too.

Kiffin knew it was extremely weird to ask to stay on to coach while you are the coach of a direct competitor. That was not going to be allowed. He knew that. (and before you start with the but, but Tulane and Florida!!, Those schools are not competing for recruits or against one another.)


Kiffin chose to go to LSU. That is his right. I don't fault him for it. But this is not remotely comparable to Elko or the other coaches you named.


You make great points and I agree with you.
The conundrum here is a coach turning down a job that he wants because his current team is making the playoffs.
Lane believes that LSU is a better job than Ole Miss, and he probably made that decision weeks ago after Kelly was fired and prior to Ole Miss being a playoff contender. This was supposed to be a rebuilding year for them.
He absolutely wanted the LSU job in 2021 when Kelly was hired. That has been documented.
So, should he not take the job he wants that has a better chance to win championships because of his current team?


It's not him taking the job and leaving that's the issue, and you know it. It's how he handled literally every step of the process and how he treated people, including his own players, on the way out the door. You know this, and I sure hope you realize the false equivalency to your ridiculous take and are just trying to be a troll. Either way, I don't think anyone should be responding to your posts intended purely to rile people up. Which you are failing at anyway.

People making measley salaries getting on their high horse about 9 figure contracts and what they perceive is the appropriate course of action is hilarious
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In reply to Ray Baker • 6:15p, 11/30/25
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Ray Baker said:
fulshearAg96 said:
Players are free agents moving every year so why can't the coach… I also find it hard to believe LSU and Ole Miss on even playing fields when it comes to football and resources to win it all. And LSU is paying for Lane so they want him now. Money talks and there is a pecking order. Sucks but that's our football.

Ole Miss matched LSU's yearly salary.
Lane wanted to leave.


Well then he has every right to leave… sucks on the timing but that's our college football
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6:21p, 11/30/25
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I do think the schools need some legal protection. What's to stop the players from transferring schools in January and refusing to play?
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In reply to Ray Baker • 6:28p, 11/30/25
Ray Baker said:

It's fair to say that social media back then was not what it is today.



I'm Gipper
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6:32p, 11/30/25
Somebody needs to beat his ass. Beaten with fists in public. Send him to the LSU signing day event looking like Samcro got a hold of him.
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In reply to 12thMan9 • 6:34p, 11/30/25
That's between me and the IRS.
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In reply to Ray Baker • 6:54p, 11/30/25
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Twitter was fully engaged during the Fisher and Elko hires.
I'm not blaming it all on Kiffin - the big difference is the timeline set up by LSU firing Kelly so early.

You compared it to A&M hires and none of those were similar because of when the job was actually open.

It's a difficult situation and Kiffin handled it very poorly but as expected for someone with his history.
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In reply to Ray Baker • 7:47p, 11/30/25
to Ray Baker
Its questionable about being a man in general . do you stand for loyalty and teaching kids about things like friendship and community . is there an Aggie way of life or is it just a joke and get yours cut throat mentality.

How much money is enough if you're rich and have community for your family. or just about being the richest or winningest coach

defending Lane Kiffin is like a sociopathic red flag lmfaooo
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In reply to South Platte • 7:50p, 11/30/25
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Somebody needs to beat his ass. Beaten with fists in public. Send him to the LSU signing day event looking like Samcro got a hold of him.


A bit much.
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South Platte said:
Somebody needs to beat his ass. Beaten with fists in public. Send him to the LSU signing day event looking like Samcro got a hold of him.

Jesus Christ, Gem-Maaaa
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