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Committee has recency bias and only remember the sip game where we lost, scored less than our average and less than sip defense average, and allowed sips first 100 yard rusher. They also penalized us for Klein.
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Kaiser von Wilhelm said:

Gaius Rufus said:

Kaiser von Wilhelm said:

taylorswift13_ said:

I feel like the committee moved Bama to 9 so that if they lose to UGA they just flip Notre Dame and Bama 9/10 so they can keep the narrative that making and losing the conference championship won't hurt you as much. They also keep two huge markets in Notre Dame and Bama in the playoff.

But there's always a scenario where BYU wins then one of Bama and Notre Dame would have to be kicked out. As BYU would be automatically in along with two other conference champions


If bama and byu both win, what would that do? Thats the question that no-one knows, and what would really make things shuffle more than any other scenario. It would give an excuse to move bama up, but how far? And where would BYU be then...? Clearly objective metrics are being used when it gets the desired matchups and ignored when it might get in the way. Both would be impressive wins, and would be enough to argue them moving up significantly. Just because we don't want that to happen doesnt mean that it wouldn't.


If the committee followed their own methodology, tech should fall out of the top 8 with 2 losses and BYU would move up. Bama would bump the Ags to 8.

OU and ND would be the big losers in this case with ND getting bumped out and OU moving to 9, (or probably lower), IMO.


Silly argument, Show definitive proof that a&m would drop to 8 or you aren't allowed to respond. You already said that a&m couldn't drop below 7. So back it up or ill call you an emotional woman.

Am I doing that right...?


A&M can't move up. Please show where I said, "A&M can't drop below 7".

A Bama win moves them into the top 8 which bumps A&M down one spot.

See how easy that is?
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So, we're all big byu fans this weekend? Is that the only way we move up?
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Txhuntr said:

So, we're all big byu fans this weekend? Is that the only way we move up?


No. Quite frankly we're Georgia fans. We need ND to move up 1 and we either get Bama, Miami, not sure anyone else could fall to 10
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barstoolexpert said:

Txhuntr said:

So, we're all big byu fans this weekend? Is that the only way we move up?


No. Quite frankly we're Georgia fans. We need ND to move up 1 and we either get Bama, Miami, not sure anyone else could fall to 10


So there's no way we can move up and get the home field bye (Tulane/virginia)?
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Txhuntr said:

barstoolexpert said:

Txhuntr said:

So, we're all big byu fans this weekend? Is that the only way we move up?


No. Quite frankly we're Georgia fans. We need ND to move up 1 and we either get Bama, Miami, not sure anyone else could fall to 10


So there's no way we can move up and get the home field bye (Tulane/virginia)?


No. As much as the committee should move tech behind us with a loss, they'll somehow argue losing a conference championship game for loss #2 isn't as penalizing as losing to a top#15 ranked rival on the road in the final game of the season for loss #1. Or they'll move BYU ahead of us.

They want the Ags vs ND matchup with Bama as the backup. And they also want Ole Miss getting a bone for losing Kiffin.
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Ag1188 said:

How did Alabama move up one spot past Notre Dame, after Alabama struggled with awful Auburn? So rigged.

You know who else struggled with an awful Auburn?
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GoAgs92 said:

Ag1188 said:

How did Alabama move up one spot past Notre Dame, after Alabama struggled with awful Auburn? So rigged.

You know who else struggled with an awful Auburn?
Not A&M.
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Bunk Moreland said:

Txhuntr said:

barstoolexpert said:

Txhuntr said:

So, we're all big byu fans this weekend? Is that the only way we move up?


No. Quite frankly we're Georgia fans. We need ND to move up 1 and we either get Bama, Miami, not sure anyone else could fall to 10


So there's no way we can move up and get the home field bye (Tulane/virginia)?


And they also want Ole Miss getting a bone for losing Kiffin.


I just can't wrap my head around this. If anything, that should lump them in with the Tulane and JMU's of the world. Not prop them up. Also, what's the excuse for Oregon? They played one team with a pulse and lost…at home
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Txhuntr said:

Bunk Moreland said:

Txhuntr said:

barstoolexpert said:

Txhuntr said:

So, we're all big byu fans this weekend? Is that the only way we move up?


No. Quite frankly we're Georgia fans. We need ND to move up 1 and we either get Bama, Miami, not sure anyone else could fall to 10


So there's no way we can move up and get the home field bye (Tulane/virginia)?


And they also want Ole Miss getting a bone for losing Kiffin.


I just can't wrap my head around this. If anything, that should lump them in with the Tulane and JMU's of the world. Not prop them up. Also, what's the excuse for Oregon? They played one team with a pulse and lost…at home



Media story = ratings. Oregon lost early and to Indiana. Committee is lazy as **** this year. They're switching the rules for every team they evaluate.
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This is exactly what I thought would happen if we lost to sips. Ranking us below TT, Oregon, and ole miss all is complete BS. The committee is either incompetent or corrupt.
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Cromagnum said:

Always disrespected. So lame.
Dude, at some point we have to actually win something. We've got the opportunity. If we don't seize it, we deserve to get no respect.
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We have a comparable resume to Oregon and a better one than tech and ole miss. All 3 being ahead is complete bs.

Im so tired of this ****
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amercer said:

Shaping up to be an ugly end to the best season in 30 years.

Hope we don't have to wait until 2055 for another shot

You have to beat everyone on that list to win it all. Might as well get who many consider one of the toughest matchups at home.
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Don't show up and sheet the bed against tu, nothing impressive against Samford, and dang near chocking against SC….. feel good about 7
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Jbob04 said:

Everyone should have seen this coming. Committee has been looking for a reason to bump us down and we laid an egg in Austin last week.

Yep, we **** the bed AGAIN and gave them fuel for the narrative... which we can't ever seem to change.

I thought we'd be 8-10. We got embarrassed by a 3 loss team that lost to Florida and had to go into overtime to beat Kentucky and Mississippi State.
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4 said:

Jbob04 said:

Everyone should have seen this coming. Committee has been looking for a reason to bump us down and we laid an egg in Austin last week.

Yep, we **** the bed AGAIN and gave them fuel for the narrative... which we can't ever seem to change.

I thought we'd be 8-10. We got embarrassed by a 3 loss team that lost to Florida and had to go into overtime to beat Kentucky and Mississippi State.


Stop bleeding and sack up. Welcome to the big leagues.
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Gaius Rufus said:

TAMUallen said:

We had to beat the sips and didnt.

Now we will have it as rough as possible


"Rough as possible" would have meant a 9-seed road game against OU then a matchup with OSU.

A 7-seed home game against a bama team that can't run with a matchup against, probably IU or UGA isn't that bad.


Have you seen our run defense? Especially against scar and Texas....2 of the worst run offenses in the conference?

Or if it stays ND they ran all over us once already

This 7 seed instead of 6 is a massive blow
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trip98 said:

Gaius Rufus said:

TAMUallen said:

We had to beat the sips and didnt.

Now we will have it as rough as possible


"Rough as possible" would have meant a 9-seed road game against OU then a matchup with OSU.

A 7-seed home game against a bama team that can't run with a matchup against, probably IU or UGA isn't that bad.


Have you seen our run defense? Especially against scar and Texas....2 of the worst run offenses in the conference?

Or if it stays ND they ran all over us once already

This 7 seed instead of 6 is a massive blow


They ran 39 times for 136 yards against us. Stop making up bull*****
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There is more chance that we slide to 6 and ahead of both tech & byu if byu wins than there is of BYU and tech both ending up in front of us.

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AgWhoop2015 said:

Leaving ole miss without an offensive play caller above us is absolutely stupid. Oregon best win is USC


Weiss, Jr. is calling the offense for Ole Miss through the playoffs.
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Bunk Moreland said:

trip98 said:

Gaius Rufus said:

TAMUallen said:

We had to beat the sips and didnt.

Now we will have it as rough as possible


"Rough as possible" would have meant a 9-seed road game against OU then a matchup with OSU.

A 7-seed home game against a bama team that can't run with a matchup against, probably IU or UGA isn't that bad.


Have you seen our run defense? Especially against scar and Texas....2 of the worst run offenses in the conference?

Or if it stays ND they ran all over us once already

This 7 seed instead of 6 is a massive blow


They ran 39 times for 136 yards against us. Stop making up bull*****


I'll give you some stats that I'm not making up. Our rush defense averages 111 yards per game.
So Texas was 12th in the sec in rush offense at 132 yards.
Scar is 15th and averages 111

As you pointed out Texas hit 136 so over their average and almost 20% more than our defense averaged
Scar rushed for 121 so again I er their average and above ours as well

That's just statistics and not bull***** Another way is to realize how many BIG runs we give up. We are one of the worst in the country at that. So it's not just the average yards per game it's how impactful the runs are.

Take it a step further just use the eyeball test. For example ..arch big 35 yard run for a TD...or his runs to get 1st downs on 3rd and long
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trip98 said:

Bunk Moreland said:

trip98 said:

Gaius Rufus said:

TAMUallen said:

We had to beat the sips and didnt.

Now we will have it as rough as possible


"Rough as possible" would have meant a 9-seed road game against OU then a matchup with OSU.

A 7-seed home game against a bama team that can't run with a matchup against, probably IU or UGA isn't that bad.


Have you seen our run defense? Especially against scar and Texas....2 of the worst run offenses in the conference?

Or if it stays ND they ran all over us once already

This 7 seed instead of 6 is a massive blow


They ran 39 times for 136 yards against us. Stop making up bull*****


I'll give you some stats that I'm not making up. Our rush defense averages 111 yards per game.
So Texas was 12th in the sec in rush offense at 132 yards.
Scar is 15th and averages 111

As you pointed out Texas hit 136 so over their average and almost 20% more than our defense averaged
Scar rushed for 121 so again I er their average and above ours as well

That's just statistics and not bull***** Another way is to realize how many BIG runs we give up. We are one of the worst in the country at that. So it's not just the average yards per game it's how impactful the runs are.

Take it a step further just use the eyeball test. For example ..arch big 35 yard run for a TD...or his runs to get 1st downs on 3rd and long


Those are a lot of stats that have nothing to do with Notre Dame to avoid the direct stats we had vs ND when we played them in their house.

I'm not saying we'll replicate it should we play then again, but you made an absolutely false statement about ND running all over us the first time. You could have said "yeah I got that wrong but our run d has bee suspect ever since" and I'd have agreed with you
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Bunk Moreland said:

trip98 said:

Bunk Moreland said:

trip98 said:

Gaius Rufus said:

TAMUallen said:

We had to beat the sips and didnt.

Now we will have it as rough as possible


"Rough as possible" would have meant a 9-seed road game against OU then a matchup with OSU.

A 7-seed home game against a bama team that can't run with a matchup against, probably IU or UGA isn't that bad.


Have you seen our run defense? Especially against scar and Texas....2 of the worst run offenses in the conference?

Or if it stays ND they ran all over us once already

This 7 seed instead of 6 is a massive blow


They ran 39 times for 136 yards against us. Stop making up bull*****


I'll give you some stats that I'm not making up. Our rush defense averages 111 yards per game.
So Texas was 12th in the sec in rush offense at 132 yards.
Scar is 15th and averages 111

As you pointed out Texas hit 136 so over their average and almost 20% more than our defense averaged
Scar rushed for 121 so again I er their average and above ours as well

That's just statistics and not bull***** Another way is to realize how many BIG runs we give up. We are one of the worst in the country at that. So it's not just the average yards per game it's how impactful the runs are.

Take it a step further just use the eyeball test. For example ..arch big 35 yard run for a TD...or his runs to get 1st downs on 3rd and long


Those are a lot of stats that have nothing to do with Notre Dame to avoid the direct stats we had vs ND when we played them in their house.

I'm not saying we'll replicate it should we play then again, but you made an absolutely false statement about ND running all over us the first time. You could have said "yeah I got that wrong but our run d has bee suspect ever since" and I'd have agreed with you


My bad I got a little distracted. But yes let's dive into the details on the ND game. They had 135 rush yards on us which is about 20% more then or average.
One more piece is that includes -15 on sacks. It also includes the -11 yards on the 4th down play that they ruled a fumble that we recovered. So really you could say they put at least 146 on us just counting that one play and not sacks

Their 2 rbs ran for 94 and 68 yards respectively. They had 4.1 and 5.7 yards per carry.......oh yeah they ran for 3 TDs

The majority of the fans I know would say that's running the ball pretty damn well. Certainly closer to running all over us than us shutting their run game down
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If you want to think like a loser that is fine. I get why you were always picked last.
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Bunk Moreland said:

Txhuntr said:

barstoolexpert said:

Txhuntr said:

So, we're all big byu fans this weekend? Is that the only way we move up?


No. Quite frankly we're Georgia fans. We need ND to move up 1 and we either get Bama, Miami, not sure anyone else could fall to 10


So there's no way we can move up and get the home field bye (Tulane/virginia)?


No. As much as the committee should move tech behind us with a loss, they'll somehow argue losing a conference championship game for loss #2 isn't as penalizing as losing to a top#15 ranked rival on the road in the final game of the season for loss #1. Or they'll move BYU ahead of us.

They want the Ags vs ND matchup with Bama as the backup. And they also want Ole Miss getting a bone for losing Kiffin.
In 2024, 11-1 Texas dropped from 2 to 3 after losing the SEC CG to 10-2 Georgia (5) and 11-1 Penn State dropped from 3 to 4 after losing the Big Ten CG to 12-0 Oregon (1).

Both schools picked up their 2nd loss and dropped Notre Dame (11-1) down from 4 to 5 after Georgia moved up from 5 to 2.

11-1 SMU dropped from 8 to 10 after losing the ACC CG to 9-3 Clemson who moved up from 17 to 16.

10-2 Arizona State jumped from 15 from 12 after beating 10-2 Iowa State in the Big 12 CG who dropped from 16 to 18.
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Number 7 is total Bull****, Elko should be pissed and showing it.
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MidlandOil$ said:

Give me a F'n break.
Committee is not a fan of Aggies


Who gives two Shiites???

Just win.
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Nobody should be surprised. Very consistently every year teams get punished for losing late in the season more than teams get punished for losing early if humans are involved in ranking. It's always what have you done lately focused where people are involved. Humans are inflicted by apparent momentum or trend, and losing later will give the impression of not improving versus improving. Can't lose late. It's that simple.
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Stop *****ing. Do you know who was #7 last year? Notre Dame. They made it to the CFP final game by beating Indiana, Georgia and Penn State. It wasn't made easy for them. At some point you have to stop feeling sorry for yourself and go out and earn it.
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jt16 said:

Stop *****ing. Do you know who was #7 last year? Notre Dame. They made it to the CFP final game by beating Indiana, Georgia and Penn State. It wasn't made easy for them. At some point you have to stop feeling sorry for yourself and go out and earn it.

Well said, it's time to sack up. Win or go home.this ranking is on Elko and the team for the disaster of a game against sip. Let that loss motivate you and make a deep run in the playoffs.
 
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