Agmaniacmike12 said:

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bslater07 said:

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It's ridiculous that we're even having this discussion because the committee is dog **** for dropping us from one of 3 remaining undefeateds to the LOWEST ranked 1 loss team. It should matter WHO you lost to, not WHEN. Put up the strength of schedule and strength of record numbers and it doesn't make any sense other than the committee is filled with idiots.

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They are operating under different SoS metrics. Regardless, I think the way Oregon finished the season and the way Tech destroyed their Big 12 sched other than the 1 hiccup is enough to justify them ahead of us.

On the other hand, Ole Miss is similar to us in that they have played up/down to their competition for much of the year. Okie/ND road wins basically cancel each other out. In common opponents, A&M was much more impressive in LSU/Florida wins, similar type games vs. Miss State/Arky. A&M loss on road to Texas worse than UGA loss.

Where the divide seems to be is the belief that Tulane is a quality opponent for Ole Miss, while a road win vs. Mizzou is not for A&M. 10-2 Tulane is somehow 21 in the CFP with a +77 scoring margin in the AAC, while 11-1 North Texas is literally double that at +154 with a tougher conference slate and they are at 20. Meanwhile, 8-4 Mizzou has 4 losses to top 14 teams. Iowa is also 8-4, with 2 losses to playoff teams, others are USC and Iowa State. Somehow they are a top 25 team CFP team, but Mizzou is not.

If UNT wins by multiple scores, I think Tulane exits the CFP top 25 and Mizzou enters. JMU losing could also allow Mizzou to enter. This the path to being seeded 6 IMO. As much as I want the chaos of the ACC being left out, I'd much rather play UVA over UNT at that spot.

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They're not going to reorder us and Ole Miss based on based on whether Mizzou ends up being 27 or 25

BMX Bandit said:

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Put up the strength of schedule and strength of record numbers and it doesn't make any sense

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when you pull up the strength of schedule and strength of record numbers that are given to the committee, not the ones from ESPN, it makes perfect sense.

its a classic example of GIGO. The committee is fed garbage, that is why garbage comes out

of the four one loss teams we were grouped with, the strength of schedule and strength of record numbers (what they call "Game control") are

tech 99th SOS 32 GC (2nd best)
oregon 43rd SOS 23.3 GC (apparently this is good)
ole miss 71st SOS 17.2 GC
A&M 91st SOS (out of 136 teams. that is just dumb) 14.1 GC (3rd worst in the poll)

6 #OleMiss #HottyToddy
Projected: 6✅

SOS 71
QW 3
T25W 2
GC 17.2

This is not the same as FSU. The committee had time to see the result of a backup QB. They will not penalize this team w/no on field results to do so. The projection had them right here.

— Adam McClintock (@cfb_professor) December 3, 2025

4 #TexasTech #WreckEm
Projected: 4✅

SOS 99
QW 3
T25W 2
GC 32.0#RedRaiders have positioned themselves to get a 1st round bye. SOS is an eyesore but with the 2nd best GC in the poll its allowed. W/ the field as tight as it is, it wouldnt be wise to get another L even in a CCG.

— Adam McClintock (@cfb_professor) December 3, 2025

strength of schedule is calculated based on the win loss record of your opponents and your opponents' opponents.. so beating a 8-4 MAC team is better than beating LSU or Missouri. As I have posted several times, it may be the worst possible way to do strength of schedule.

(I don't know how game control is calculated, but we suck at it and tech is great at it)

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Game control is beating a team for the whole game. i.e. scoring 14 in the 1st quarter and essentially holding at least that type of lead for the entire game. From what I understand, it is adjusted based on the strength of opponent. Tech may be playing a bad schedule, but have to give credit for the way they have trounced their Big 12 schedule outside of the ASU game. I think they have won every game by 3 or more possessions. The best Big 12 season since Oklahoma State 2011.

Having watched Ole Miss all year, I struggle to see how their game control is not more in line with ours. They just simply haven't put teams away. Miss. State was their only 3 possession win in conference, the SCAR game was the other "dominant" conference win and they were only up 6 going into the 4th. I feel like the difference is that dumb Tulane win.

I suspect the committee will re-insert a conference champion tiebreaker to their eye tests to move up teams with matching losses or similar other eye test preferences.

So a one loss champion could be moved ahead of their ne loss non champions. But it further spikes the notion a true strength of record has been designed, implemented, and is being used. Which makes Sankey completely impotent and ESPN unreliable as a partner unless we pull out of the CFP which he can't pull off.

Game control. What a stupid azz metric.

When do Tech and BYU play?

fireinthehole said:

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When do Tech and BYU play?

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11:00am Saturday.