Good lord, it's the New York post...haha

This is why I hate Notre dame. They literally have a different set of rules than the rest of college football.

And this isn't the first time.

Go look up their rules that have been in the NCAA bylaws for years about their eligibility for bowl games.

Special rule written for Notre Dame only.

We need to get rankings and polls out of this mix altogether. It's absurd we pick champions via polls.

We need to go back to regional conferences of 9-10 teams where every team plays each other, and the winners of the conferences go to the playoffs.

ND can join a conference or not participate. Period.

This is how the NFL is built. This is how UIL is built. This is how we get subjectivity out of the equation.

But the networks, the money, and elitist entitlement mindsets will never allow it to happen.

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the 2026 committee will do whatever it wants

by the way...ND's 2026 schedule is charmin soft

basically the same -- but replaced A&M with Rice

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10-2 at worst.

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Good lord, it's the New York post...haha

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And?

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Good lord, it's the New York post...haha

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https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/college-football-playoff-selection-notre-dame-mou-2026-schedule/

Better?

So last year Alabama made the biggest stink about being left out, and this year the committee makes sure they get in even with 3 losses.

This year ND is making the biggest stink, so of course, we will never have a CFP without them ever again I'm certain.

Can we just go ahead and codify that Alabama and ND have permanent spots in the CFP in perpetuity, because apparently that's what they seem to think they deserve.

Just gives teams more incentive to beat them.

USC should be better next year.

Miami should get geared up.

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Notre Dame and their fans are more than welcome to cry harder. A name only carries you so far, and in their case, it carries a lot further than it should.

If they wanted in, they should've beaten Miami or us. They didn't, so they can sit and watch December and January and wipe away the tears while doing so.

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I get it, but Miami lost to two crap teams. Their frustration makes sense. All this subjective "well they did/didn't do ______" can always be turned around on the other team.

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Miami won their one head-to-head meeting. Can't turn that one around.

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But ND didn't lose to two ****ty teams.

Pate said this best: no matter which side of the coin you're on, the other side has an equal amount of valid point. Picking teams to be in always was and always will be ******ed. I can't wait for college football to finally create objective criteria for playoff entry. Probably 10+ years away though.

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Don't misunderstand what I meant by that statement. I am not saying that head-to-head trumps any other metric. It's the only metric that is settled on the field.

So what's the problem?

Just rank them 13th or right outside of whatever the number is.

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So what's the problem?

Just rank them 13th or right outside of whatever the number is.

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the problem is that this clause exists

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Just gives teams more incentive to beat them.

USC should be better next year.

Miami should get geared up.

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But USC wants to move that game to September and not in November. ND needs higher profile opponents in November for obvious reasons. So unsure who is going to win that battle but with USC in the B1G instead of the hapless PAC, do they even need a game with ND anymore? I'd think not.

The days of ND being the prettiest girl at the dance are drawing to an end?

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Good lord, it's the New York post...haha

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"The college football world was stunned by Notre Dame's exclusion from this season's playoff as it got penalized while being idle this past weekend."

Whoever wrote the article made some invalid assumptions. The committee just did the right thing when it counted, they moved ND down. Having them above Miami would've been ridiculous.

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1. Haven't won a natty in almost 40 years. Check
2. Haven't won a Heisman in almost 40 years. Check
3. Multiple unearned playoff berths. Check
4. Want's to be treated like royalty. Check

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Add to this, nobody watches them anymore. Check. Texas A&M has had better tv ratings than Notre Dame in each of the last 3 years. Let that sink in. More people watch Texas A&M football than watch Notre Dame football according to Nielsen, On3 and ESPN.

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I wish all the P4 teams boycott ND and not play them. I mean, how much does Purdue lose by not having them on their schedule?

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IMO, ACC has every reason to ditch their association with ND, all the way indy or not. Would the B1G grant them full membership with the separate ND/NBC TV deal intact? I'd wager the Big XII would since they don't have a conference network.

But if ND truly ends up as an indy, they can easily be boycotted.

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NBC is also part of the FOX/BIG partnership. NDs AD is the former President of NBC Sports. I think the media side will come together pretty quick, if ND decides to join. My guess, the ND contract would be added to the BIG pool, and ND gets the same payout as the other members getting Full payout. (With the possible exception being the BIG Ten network as you have to buy into ownership first)

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NBC partially owns the B1G Network?

The rule doesn't matter, because the committee will do whatever they want anyway. If ND is guaranteed a spot when ranked #12, then the committee could bump them down to #13 on the last week if they don't want them in.

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1. Haven't won a natty in almost 40 years. Check
2. Haven't won a Heisman in almost 40 years. Check
3. Multiple unearned playoff berths. Check
4. Want's to be treated like royalty. Check

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Add to this, nobody watches them anymore. Check. Texas A&M has had better tv ratings than Notre Dame in each of the last 3 years. Let that sink in. More people watch Texas A&M football than watch Notre Dame football according to Nielsen, On3 and ESPN.

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They're burning every ounce of goodwill and political capital with low reserves.

Yale, Army and Rutgers were once blue blood programs too.

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No, I think the teams own that. They are part of the Broadcast deal along with CBS and FOX. So merging ND into the BIG Ten shouldn't be hard.

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NBC is also part of the FOX/BIG partnership.

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No, I think the teams own that. They are part of the Broadcast deal along with CBS and FOX. So merging ND into the BIG Ten shouldn't be hard.

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Negative. That is not how the B1G Network has ever been structured and is the reason the B1G has always had a buy-in for new members after the launching of the conference network. The conference owned 49% and Fox owned 51% of the network. As they added teams, Fox didn't have enough timeslots particularly with their deal with the Big XII.

But folding ND's deal with NBC with the B1G Network as their "buy-in"? Would the original members be okay with that?.

(FTR: SEC did their deal differently. ESPN and only ESPN owns the SEC Network.)

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NBC is also part of the FOX/BIG partnership.

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No, I think the teams own that. They are part of the Broadcast deal along with CBS and FOX. So merging ND into the BIG Ten shouldn't be hard.

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Negative. That is not how the B1G Network has ever been structured and is the reason the B1G has always had a buy-in for new members after the launching of the conference network. The conference owned 49% and Fox owned 51% of the network. As they added teams, Fox didn't have enough timeslots particularly with their deal with the Big XII.

But folding ND's deal with NBC with the B1G Network as their "buy-in"? Would the original members be okay with that?.

(FTR: SEC did their deal differently. ESPN and only ESPN owns the SEC Network.)

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Let me start over. NBC is a partner of FOX in their BIG 10 TV deal as well as a partner of Notre Dame. All the parties work together already. If ND joins the BIG Ten, figuring out who shows what games shouldnt result in any fights among the networks. Not talking about the BIG Ten network, just NBC/FOX/CBS/FS1. They would need to buy their way into ownership in the BIG Ten Network like any other team.

Kind of like tu moving from the Big 12 to the SEC.

Notre Dame is exiting ACC for non-football sports and is currently looking for a new home. Expect an announcement by the end of Jan. This is breaking.

— MHver3 (@MHver3) December 8, 2025

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So last year Alabama made the biggest stink about being left out, and this year the committee makes sure they get in even with 3 losses.

This year ND is making the biggest stink, so of course, we will never have a CFP without them ever again I'm certain.

Can we just go ahead and codify that Alabama and ND have permanent spots in the CFP in perpetuity, because apparently that's what they seem to think they deserve.

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Bama was in before we lost to tu. They were the highest ranked 2 loss team. Why should they be punished for playing in a championship when it's been understood from the beginning of the system that conference championship results would not cause a team to be bounced? That was one of the few stated guidelines ever disclosed by this cluster.

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NBC & Peacock's 2025 Big Ten Saturday Night Slate (through November)

• Western Illinois at Illinois - Friday, August 29, 7:30 p.m. ET
• New Mexico at Michigan - Saturday, August 30, 7:30 p.m. ET
• Miami of Ohio at Rutgers - Saturday, September 6, 3:30 p.m. ET (Peacock Exclusive)
• Boston College at Michigan State - Saturday, September 6, 7:30 p.m. ET
• Towson at Maryland - Saturday, September 13, Noon ET (Peacock Exclusive)
• Ohio at Ohio State - Saturday, September 13, 7 p.m. ET
• Oregon at Penn State - Saturday, September 27, 7:30 p.m. ET
• Indiana at Purdue - Saturday, November 28, 7:30 p.m. ET

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One -two matchups, the rest crap games. Probably why I didn't think NBC broadcast many football games other than certain ND games.

You win. Mea culpa.

How easy is it for a school to cancel a game with ND for the following season? The whole ACC on their schedule should cancel next years games. Force those effers to play a complete group of 5 schedule.

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So last year Alabama made the biggest stink about being left out, and this year the committee makes sure they get in even with 3 losses.

This year ND is making the biggest stink, so of course, we will never have a CFP without them ever again I'm certain.

Can we just go ahead and codify that Alabama and ND have permanent spots in the CFP in perpetuity, because apparently that's what they seem to think they deserve.

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Bama was in before we lost to tu. They were the highest ranked 2 loss team. Why should they be punished for playing in a championship when it's been understood from the beginning of the system that conference championship results would not cause a team to be bounced? That was one of the few stated guidelines ever disclosed by this cluster.

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I don't think they should've been in after the loss to OU late in the season. That's 2 losses, one late in the season, one to effin FSU who was terrible.

Then they proved they didn't belong when they got their asses handed to them in the CCG.

I know the committee doesn't want to punish for participating in the CCG, but they had them too high pre-CCG to begin with.

Fair enough. And for the record, I don't think Bama is that good. I think they get favorable treatment when they shouldn't. I think Vandy was a better 2 loss team. I think their reason for not being included should've been based on everything leading up to the CCG. If they didn't bounce them before the championship game, I'd have a problem with them being bounced after. It sets a bad precedent that I easily see being used against us some day.

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How easy is it for a school to cancel a game with ND for the following season? The whole ACC on their schedule should cancel next years games. Force those effers to play a complete group of 5 schedule.

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ND is contractually obligated to play a five ACC team schedule every year with teams rotating. That agreemtn has really screwed with ACC scheduling in that they now have what they call nonconference games against other ACC teams.

The only advantage the ACC got out of the arrangement with ND was getting a better deal with ESPN on the ACC Network. Now? I think the ACC should tell ND not to let the door hit them in the ass on their way out.

Expect the ACC to no longer be in a few years. It might survive another 5 years or so. There will be a new western conference of sorts over time of these long road trips adding up.

ND's cushy schedule next year pretty much guarantees it a playoff berth if they go 10-2 or better.

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How easy is it for a school to cancel a game with ND for the following season? The whole ACC on their schedule should cancel next years games. Force those effers to play a complete group of 5 schedule.

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ND is contractually obligated to play a five ACC team schedule every year with teams rotating. That agreemtn has really screwed with ACC scheduling in that they now have what they call nonconference games against other ACC teams.

The only advantage the ACC got out of the arrangement with ND was getting a better deal with ESPN on the ACC Network. Now? I think the ACC should tell ND not to let the door hit them in the ass on their way out.

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Laughable if you think the ACC doesn't want ND now simply bc ND is whining about the ACC being part of the lobbying effort to keep ND out.

The ACC is much more valuable even with a partial alliance with ND. They aren't gonna let hurt feelings get in the way of those media dollars.

This MOU sounds more like an IOU

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Notre Dame is exiting ACC for non-football sports and is currently looking for a new home. Expect an announcement by the end of Jan. This is breaking.

— MHver3 (@MHver3) December 8, 2025

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In line with AD's comments yesterday and the press conference announced for tomorrow. Let's hope they get blackballed. This AD is about to look like a hero (not sure how) or a complete myopic dumbass.

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How easy is it for a school to cancel a game with ND for the following season? The whole ACC on their schedule should cancel next years games. Force those effers to play a complete group of 5 schedule.

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ND is contractually obligated to play a five ACC team schedule every year with teams rotating. That agreemtn has really screwed with ACC scheduling in that they now have what they call nonconference games against other ACC teams.

The only advantage the ACC got out of the arrangement with ND was getting a better deal with ESPN on the ACC Network. Now? I think the ACC should tell ND not to let the door hit them in the ass on their way out.

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Laughable if you think the ACC doesn't want ND now simply bc ND is whining about the ACC being part of the lobbying effort to keep ND out.

The ACC is much more valuable even with a partial alliance with ND. They aren't gonna let hurt feelings get in the way of those media dollars.

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Perhaps direct that comment to ND's AD? He needs support to burn down ND further.