Parts of all of the "major" cities kinda are.

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Historically Rice has been better than Vandy hands down.

The key is that Vandy is a legacy SEC school. If the SEC had broken up like the SWC, Vandy would be in the sunbelt or some other crap conference and you would never hear from them again.

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This is the correct answer. Vandy drug their heels forever before finally investing in their program and they were only able to do it then because they had a wallet full of SEC cash.

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BrotherChad2 said:

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Ruck Fice!

They do nothing for Houston.

They do nothing for the state of Texas.

Rice admits majority out of staters and foreign students while ignoring Houston and Texas students!

Y'all make fun of "Cougar High" but UH does a great job of investing in the people of Houston and state of Texas and the local community. Rice does not.

So do not care that they're not good at football! Boo hoo!!

Ruck em!

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UH? Can't even fill the small stadium for big football games. Rice and UH suffer from same problem - kittle/no alumni support. At least the student body has gotten into basketball.

Brother, what is this "investing" by UH you speak of?

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Plenty of UH alumni live and work in tha H for Houston companies and support UH. Can't say the same about Rice. You're right about especially in basketball, but Frittata supports football too.

Most Rice alumni leave the city after college and are off to Illuminati dealings at Blackrock! Sad!!

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Rice is in an awful part of Houston...

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I take it you've never set foot on the Rice campus.

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There is a certain subset of posters on here (who mostly spend time on other boards) who seem to believe that every major US city is Mogadishu…

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How dare you sir!!
I live in San Antonio and Mogadishu ain't got nothin' on Juarez!

Because Rice couldn't care less about football, for the most part.

Rice has no desire for transfer students. Oh, they have a few, but they aren't going to dedicate space on their strategic plan or budgetary resources or even academic policy revisions to enable transfers.

A number of private schools in the past few years softened their transfer and residency requirements in order to accommodate their athletic programs' desires to utilize the transfer portal. Rice did not (unless something has changed very recently).

Also, the whole SEC thing helps Vandy. Does anyone even know what conference Rice is in? Is it AAC? ConfUSA?

Part of the issue Rice has is that they do have lots of wealthy graduates but the ones that have enough wealth to really make an impact on NIL went to the business school for a graduate degree. Up until recently the business school didn't even offer an undergraduate degree. Like most people you aren't going to donate millions to a school that you didn't attend for undergrad.

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This is the first time Vandy has been good at football in forever.
They've both had great baseball teams and nat'l championships.
Do either even have a basketball team?
Nashville >>>>>> Houston (and I live in Houston)
I assume Vandy is a much bigger school? Rice campus is nice. I bet Vandy's is nicer.
Vandy will go back to being Vandy, just like Indiana will revert to being Indiana.

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I'll add this to the LONG list of times you've been wrong. Its obvious that you're posting out of your ass and did absolutely zero research before typing. Do you ever get tired of being wrong all the freaking time? JFC, dude.

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Vandy got an old school SEC schedule for 2026

Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Ole Miss, Tennessee

no former Big 12 teams

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Ouch. Easily 4 losses.

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cevans_40 said:

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Rice is in an awful part of Houston and Nashville is simply a better city overall. Academically, the same types of students attend both schools but Vandy has done a much better job of appealing to the natives versus the International draw for Rice.

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The village and the medical center are awful parts of Houston?

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Yes. Less awful than other areas but still trash. Expensive trash.

Nothing like hanging out at the hospital for college student.

Rice is a very left wing school and just doesn't give a damn about athletics.

Vandy, even though they probably aren't "conservative" by any stretch, is in the SEC where athletics mean everything and it just kind of rubs off on them. And now that you can buy players, if they have people with money to throw around, they can compete with anyone.

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CharleyKerfeld said:

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cevans_40 said:

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Rice is in an awful part of Houston and Nashville is simply a better city overall. Academically, the same types of students attend both schools but Vandy has done a much better job of appealing to the natives versus the International draw for Rice.

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The village and the medical center are awful parts of Houston?

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Yes. Less awful than other areas but still trash. Expensive trash.

Nothing like hanging out at the hospital for college student.

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Thanks for confirming you have no idea what you're talking about me. You've saved me valuable time to ignore your future posts.

Do you even Texags, bro?

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cevans_40 said:

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CharleyKerfeld said:

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cevans_40 said:

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Rice is in an awful part of Houston and Nashville is simply a better city overall. Academically, the same types of students attend both schools but Vandy has done a much better job of appealing to the natives versus the International draw for Rice.

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The village and the medical center are awful parts of Houston?

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Yes. Less awful than other areas but still trash. Expensive trash.

Nothing like hanging out at the hospital for college student.

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Thanks for confirming you have no idea what you're talking about me. You've saved me valuable time to ignore your future posts.

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At least I'm not the only one who thinks the Rice area is kind of nice. I was going to comment but decided to save my sanity and not argue the merits of the two cities.

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CharleyKerfeld said:

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cevans_40 said:

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CharleyKerfeld said:

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cevans_40 said:

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Rice is in an awful part of Houston and Nashville is simply a better city overall. Academically, the same types of students attend both schools but Vandy has done a much better job of appealing to the natives versus the International draw for Rice.

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The village and the medical center are awful parts of Houston?

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Yes. Less awful than other areas but still trash. Expensive trash.

Nothing like hanging out at the hospital for college student.

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Thanks for confirming you have no idea what you're talking about me. You've saved me valuable time to ignore your future posts.

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At least I'm not the only one who thinks the Rice area is kind of nice. I was going to comment but decided to save my sanity and not argue the merits of the two cities.

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Geto Boys>Taylor Swift.
EOT.

Rice is in the American (hasn't even been in it that long).
Vandy is a founding SEC member with the same payout as every other member.

Rice has to compete in state with: tu, A&M, TCU, SMU, Tech, Baylor, UH, UNT, UTSA, Texas State and UTEP.
Vandy has to compete in state with: UT, Memphis and Middle Tennessee.

Rice living alumni: 60k
Vandy living alumni: 145k

I've spent some time on the Rice campus, have been to a game there. I think it would be really cool if they could become a decent little powerhouse but when you even have a school the size of UH down the road with trouble maintaining fan support in a power conference, hard to imagine Rice ever figuring it out.

I'm 27 so I don't remember the SWC or anything but all the reading that I've done has made it seem to me like Rice even had trouble maintaining any sort of home atmosphere even during the conferences golden years.

We'll see how much financial support they have if Rice follows through with their plans for a major stadium renovation. This includes down sizing from ~46k to ~30k capacity BTW.

Fun fact - Vanderbilt has winning record against the Longhorns. (8-5-1)


(Their last win was in 1921)

King of the Dairy Queen said:

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cevans_40 said:

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CharleyKerfeld said:

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cevans_40 said:

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Rice is in an awful part of Houston and Nashville is simply a better city overall. Academically, the same types of students attend both schools but Vandy has done a much better job of appealing to the natives versus the International draw for Rice.

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The village and the medical center are awful parts of Houston?

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Yes. Less awful than other areas but still trash. Expensive trash.

Nothing like hanging out at the hospital for college student.

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It's okay to say you made a comment without knowing what you were talking about. You dont have to double down.

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I have been to Rice and all around the area. Its awful. I do hope you enjoy the area the next time you are down there for a hospital visit or maybe some of the nice boutiques in that area.

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Can't recall, is rice village crypts or bloods territory?

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Can you just imagine how great the college experience must be right here?

Just think, Rice's stadium hosted a Super Bowl. It was the site of JFK's "We choose to go to the Moon" speech.

They are spending a bunch of money to turn Rice Stadium into a 30,000 seat venue with lots of upgrades. It will be very fancy. It doesn't seem the athletic program lacks for money.

Rice has the largest endowment, per student, of any school in Texas. The place oozes with money. They seem to have a weird focus on spending more on academic type stuff. Donations from very big entities are impressive.

The undergrad population is about the same size as the service academies - maybe a few hundred students larger. The only BCS football school that's smaller is Tulsa.

I have a couple of family members that are Rice grads. They've been world travelers, and as life has taken its' turns, they both now live close to each other, a mile or so from the campus. Yeah, really bad parts of town there. I'll be there next week and will get to have a personal driver take me to the game in Aggieland next weekend.

I'll probably walk around a little bit and report back about the ghetto conditions in the area, assuming I'm not killed. Fortunately, the nearby school that my Granddaughter attends is armed to the teeth with private security and off duty LE folks. Many thanks for that, for all those poor little kids.

Not a fan of the traffic getting there if I drive (I'm a rural area, small town kind of guy) but once inside the loop, it's no problem. Traffic and the closed in feel of a big city get to me after a few days. The food options and cultural and sports opportunities are some of the best you can find anywhere, in my opinion.

As far as Nashville goes, it's becoming Austin-ish. Not what it used to be.

cevans_40 said:

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King of the Dairy Queen said:

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Can't recall, is rice village crypts or bloods territory?

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Can you just imagine how great the college experience must be right here?

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I can't lie, wife works in the med center, is looking at Rice for a PHD and I have spent a lot of time in this area in recent years. Seems like an infinitely better campus life than UH, like not even close.

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Rice is in the American (hasn't even been in it that long).
Vandy is a founding SEC member with the same payout as every other member.

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This, and as others have mentioned: SEC and it's money.
The conference affiliation is everything. Vandy more media money this year than Rice has received over the past 10-15 years. But it's more than just the media money, it's home ticket sales benefit from SEC fans traveling to watch SEC games. It's larger home crowds that boost sponsorships.


If Tulane's president doesn't have Tulane leave the SEC in the 1950s, they are also probably like Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Duke, Wake Forest, or Stanford instead of closer to Rice,

Rice, unlike their private school peers in the Metroplex, has the misfortune of having a large state school in town, and an even larger one just down the road.

Houstonians built a 70,000 seat stadium for Rice in 1950 because they wanted to keep up with Dallas (which had the Cotton Bowl), but never really rallied around Rice quite the way the Dallas did around SMU (and Fort Worth around TCU). By the time the Oilers and Astros were in town, Rice's window had closed. What money they made was off of the back of visiting fans buying tickets when their favorite team came to town, and the split of the gate that visiting teams used to get when hitting the road back in the old SWC days. When the SWC became an "eat what you kill" league, Rice was at such a disadvantage that they were never able to compete in the money making sports, and that's not going to change. The only thing that could change their fortunes would be for some sugar daddy (a la Cody Campbell) to pump a lot of money into that program, and that seems highly unlikely.

I'm not sure there's ever been a reason to reply to a Cevans post, on any topic.

Only one of those schools is an elite academic institution (and it isn't Vanderbilt).

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Only one of those schools is an elite academic institution (and it isn't Vanderbilt).

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I see someone is attempting to troll even harder than Cevans. Well done.

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cevans_40 said:

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King of the Dairy Queen said:

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Can't recall, is rice village crypts or bloods territory?

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Can you just imagine how great the college experience must be right here?

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I can't lie, wife works in the med center, is looking at Rice for a PHD and I have spent a lot of time in this area in recent years. Seems like an infinitely better campus life than UH, like not even close.

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So a turd sandwich is better than a turd taco?

cevans_40 said:

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Rice is in an awful part of Houston and Nashville is simply a better city overall. Academically, the same types of students attend both schools but Vandy has done a much better job of appealing to the natives versus the International draw for Rice.

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Unlike UH right

cevans_40 said:

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Rice is in an awful part of Houston and Nashville is simply a better city overall. Academically, the same types of students attend both schools but Vandy has done a much better job of appealing to the natives versus the International draw for Rice.

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Rice is between the Houston Medical Center and West U. WTF are you talking about? I'll bet you think SMU is in a rough hood too.

Rice is a very liberal school. I remember games at their place where the Rice students would give the Hitler salute while our band played at half time. The faculty has been leftists for a long, long time.

Rice is tiny and they don't give two ****s about athletics. They give only one ****, and that's because of Wayne Graham. The bottom line is that Rice should be DII or even DIII like MIT or Cal Tech. I grew up in the immediate area, my Dad went there in the sixties and I went there for an MBA. Athletics are just way down their list of priorities. I went to a Rice home football game last year and it was a much worse environment than it was back in the SWC days. I don't know why they cling to DI status, but I could have said the same about SMU until recently.