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Wiggins is offical: New OC

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Mike's interviews have made it clear that he has been planning for the day Klein would leave for quite a while now. He's also said that offensive planning has always been a collaborative process, so he already knows what Wiggins can contribute.

Nothing is a sure thing, but if someone as meticulous as Mike is comfortable with his development, then I'm fine with it. In terms of team continuity it's ideal to have an internal hire.
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SteveA said:

All you numbskulls that want a big splash hire should go play on the politics forum. This guy knows the offense and the personnel. An outside OC would come with his own scheme and would need time to acquaint himself here. I mean sure, he could sue, but could he suck much worse that some of what we have seen this year?

I don't think he's going to sue.
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Risky, hope he is right. I trust him, Just curious why he negotiated big money increases for assistant coaches if he wasn't going to use it.
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Buzzkill said:

Room40 said:

That's a mistake and a big leap of faith


It's a mistake? You've come to this, obviously well thought out, conclusion based on some secret information about his ability to call plays , right?

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I want to trust Elko on this, and I think I do, but my BAS started twitching after the tu loss.

I want Wiggins to succeed!
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Gyles Marrett said:

I often wonder how some posters think coaches who are now great coordinators or head coaches got their first chance.

Weird assumption that if you haven't been a coordinator before you're destined to fail. Wiggins resume is pretty stellar. But we need something to yell at clouds about I guess.

You made the assumption that some posters can think.
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Really not exciting considering how quickly we promoted DC from within. Makes it seem reluctant to promote oc from within weeks later.

But in elko we trust.
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I don't believe the Offensive Line strategy has only applied to the offensive line... they have rotated through to be flexible and have a complementary mindset. It can be seen in the "Men of the 10" attitude, and can also apply to coaches if the leadership is there to do it. I think Elko does have that, and if so, Wiggins should get the support and I am sure has been prepping for this for a long time.

Also, I am pretty sure this year the options for OC are pretty thin, considering how many top level OC's are being hired as head coaches. Every hire is a gamble, and this likely is the best choice of all available choices.
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Congrats to Mr. Wiggins. Now can he bring over Ryan Williams?
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Rather hire someone elite at being Offensive Coordinator. Maybe this will be better than his DC hire Bateman which turned out to be an epic Fail. And I'm not sure how many elite offenses would trade their OC for our playcaller Klein either. But, Elko obviously knows it's his own butt on the line so hard not to trust him at this point.
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Quote:

Rather hire someone elite at being Offensive Coordinator.

Yeah, because elite OC's are jumping at the chance to leave the place where they are elite for another OC job.... sheesh.
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Concerned we have a new play caller for next year who has never called an offense in his life. I guess Elko is OK with OJT. Wonder how all the other offensive coaches will view him as their new boss,
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King of the Dairy Queen said:

Really not exciting considering how quickly we promoted DC from within. Makes it seem reluctant to promote oc from within weeks later.

But in elko we trust.

The DC situation was probably made nearly a year ago - we were just waiting for Bateman's contract to run out and then it wasn't going to be renewed. While we had an idea that Klein would leave at some point, I think it probably wasn't expected to be this year, but the K-State coach seemed to be done with the current state of CFB, so the timeline was moved up.
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He could be the best OC ever or the worst OC ever. We'll find out after next season.

We've hired a lot of coaches with all the right credentials that end up failing miserably.
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He was awful under saban
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IS this fellow any good?
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Most of us here probably didn't realize that he was the co-offensive coordinator. If you are going to have "co-coordinators" then you must be prepared to elevate one when the other leaves or else you risk losing both of them. I like the continuity of the selection and the fact that we promoted from w/in. If you look at all those successful Alabama teams (or really any successful college program over the years), they were able to achieve continuity when the staff was/is picked apart. Bottom line, if we keep our house in order and build the most talented roster, we should at/near the top 12 every year.
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A lot of these "big mistake" posters were the same people that wanted Elko to hire E Rob to be the DC when Jimbo got let go. Elko obviously knows when and when not to promote assistants to coordinator positions.
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Nah, he was terrible under Saban as WR coach. I can't recall anyone coming out of that program that did much during his tenure.
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LarryLayman said:

Lurker44 said:

Risky with no OC experience. Hope for the best


Looks like he coached under Saban for three years(2019-2023) and was promoted by Saban to assistant head coach of offense in addition to wide receivers coach in his last year at Alabama, then Elko hired him. With the success coaches from the Saban tree have had I think this looks like a very good hire. He may not pan out but I don't see how anyone can think he is not qualified.


^^^This.

No doubt that Elko expressed the highest expectations in the interview process, (went in-depth to the chalk boards and ipads) as well as doing his due diligence on his endorsements (Saban perhaps?) and references.

Wiggins looks like a great hire. The biggest question next year will be the Oline and that damn end of year schedule ...yikes!
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PeekingDuck said:

Nah, he was terrible under Saban as WR coach. I can't recall anyone coming out of that program that did much during his tenure.

You may need to type slower for some of these posters.......
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PeekingDuck said:

Nah, he was terrible under Saban as WR coach. I can't recall anyone coming out of that program that did much during his tenure.
Only a Heisman winning WR and a stable of NFL receivers!
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I think it's a fantastic hire. With no experience in play calling our opponents won't know what to expect. No previous game footage to study.
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I guess players retention was one of the key factors for this hire. Elko will look for a QB coach/co-OC now.
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StrykerAg said:

Hello darkness, my old friend


Que the "that's racist" meme.

Just curious, where do these "elite" coordinators come from?
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Sure hope this works out, but not expecting it to at all. We're one of the top programs in the country and we have to settle for a guy with 0 experience?
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Lurker44 said:

Risky with no OC experience. Hope for the best

Yep, typical Aggie approach..... hurry and find someone, anyone..... don't take a calculated approach to find the best OC you can, just go with what you got (or don't have)...... like you said, we can only hope.....


The ONLY valid ANNUAL goal for ALL Aggie Sports is a NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!

Gig'em !
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I find it truly hilarious how TexAgs poopoos anyone who is outside of their comfort zone. A&M has been absolutely BROKEN since 1939 (with the exception of a few standout years) and when we get a change agent like Elko in here, people question his methods, despite proving on field success.
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rbtexan said:

Room40 said:

That's a mistake and a big leap of faith

Lazy take. Big leap of faith, maybe. Mistake? You're making assumptions based on little to no information.

So, you don't think the fact he has never served as an OC is a legitimate basis for the assumptions ? Then why don't you add to that our Aggie history of making poor hiring/selection decisions on coaches.


The ONLY valid ANNUAL goal for ALL Aggie Sports is a NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP!

Gig'em !
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I like this. Definitely not a panic decision as Elko had to know Klein was going elsewhere...
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We should be more surprised Elko could lure Wiggins away from Bama in the first place given our lack of talent at WR and penchant for underutilizing WRs in 2023.

He's been involved with some of the best offenses of the last decade, I'd expect he's learned a thing or two while doing his rounds. If he can create anything close to those Bama offenses with Smith, Waddle, Ruggs, and Jeudy I think we'll all be very happy.
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Aggie_Nuke said:

rbtexan said:

Room40 said:

That's a mistake and a big leap of faith

Lazy take. Big leap of faith, maybe. Mistake? You're making assumptions based on little to no information.

So, you don't think the fact he has never served as an OC is a legitimate basis for the assumptions ? Then why don't you add to that our Aggie history of making poor hiring/selection decisions on coaches.

No, I don't.

What's hysterical to me is that IF the Wiggins hire works out and the offense is great next season, and should other programs come sniffing around to offer him a job elsewhere, you'll be screaming from the rafters that we need to open up the checkbook to keep him, completely forgetting and ignoring the fact that you called his hiring a mistake in the first place.

We don't know if it'll work out or not. I agreed that it's a leap of faith. But calling it a mistake? We don't know that yet, YOU don't know that yet. Remember when we hired an experienced, veteran OC a few years back named Noel Mazzone? How did that work out?

As I posted earlier, the winningest, most successful HC in Texas A&M history had no experience as a HC when he was hired. None….zero. The presumption that just because someone hasn't done a job before makes them unqualified or unable to do it is extremely asinine.

It's not like Wiggins doesn't have an impressive resume'. These posts reek of entitlement, as if we are somehow deserving of "big name" hires at every open position…based on what exactly? The fact that we haven't won a NC in 86 years or a conference championship in 27?

Maybe we ought to trust the guy who we hired to be the HC, who is 19-6 in his first two seasons and who has us 11-1 and in the playoffs for the first time in school history, to make the right hire. It's not like his job doesn't depend on having quality assistants.
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Ugh
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Let's see how he does next year. He shoukd have decent talent to work with.
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Alright Cam Coleman, your move
 
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