I remember when everybody wanted Mond to forgo his last year and turn pro,(including myself), and he did, but halfway or less into the following season many, including myself, wished he'd have stayed.

TxAg76 said:

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Capt_Crunch 14 said:

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Reed lost that game entirely on his own. Anyone and everyone can blame him if they want. I won't miss Klein but Reed was pure garbage today.

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This x1000

It's not about the last play.
He played like sh*t the entire day.

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He played like that for 2 games straight.

A lot of people are overreacting.

Reed just needs to apologize publically then be force fed Sonic Smashburgers till he craps his pants.

boomer77 said:

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I remember when everybody wanted Mond to forgo his last year and turn pro,(including myself), and he did, but halfway or less into the following season many, including myself, wished he'd have stayed.

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Covid year was funny, and Mond turned out to be below average in the NFL.

Reed played terrible and still had a chance to win.

10 sacks though sure as hell ain't all on Reed.

Not sure who to blame, but the offense has not operated with a sense of urgency in too many games this year. A sense of urgency not in the sense of "oh crap the game is almost over, we need to score", but a mentality that translates to offensive success on the field when given any opportunity. I think the coaches realized this too as evidenced by the implementation of a hurry up offense early in the game, sort of. It clearly didn't solve the issue.

Dr. Alister MacKenzie said:

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Which one?

Reed
Elko
Klein

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How about those passes that were dropped? Can anyone name the receivers that dropped them? We have no leadership, period!!!!! I won't call names for fear of being banned. Where does the buck stop?!

gwoodtamu said:

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I'll blame him, Reed was ****ing awful, and the entire reason you lost. Imagine having to look your defense in the face knowing you couldn't ****ing muster 11 points, at home, in a playoff game, Trash.

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LOL, remember how many were calling for Reed to get the Heisman at mid season? Now who is their kicking boy???!!!! LOL

Heineken-Ashi said:

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JDCAG (NOT Colin) said:

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The last drive, minus the last play is what Reed can do that many other QBs can't.

The other 58:16 seconds of the game an average QB has probably put more points on the board.

He doesn't do the easy things well enough to move the ball consistently, so you basically have to hope you get more superman plays from him than the cumulative effect of all the bad.

We didn't get that today, so we lost.

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Yet, he far outplayed Beck who did absolutely nothing all game.

Except WIN

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Stone44 said:

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Go pay Lagway whatever it takes and hire the best quarterback coach you can find. Reed is a turnover machine

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Lagway had 14 Ints to Reed's 10. Don't know the total fumble count but Lagway wasn't good at holding into the ball.

Lagway is not the answer. Lateral move at best,

Artorias said:

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Lagway is not the answer. Lateral move at best,

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This. Lagway is much more physically gifted, but seems to be a blockhead.

I have never been Reed fan, but I thought maybe, just maybe, he'd become something different, after the Mizz game. The SC game made me regress, the Texas game reset me to my preseason "I don't think he's the guy, but I'll give'm a chance", and today sent me into full "Nope, he's gotta go."

Even with that, I'd still take Reed over Lagway.

EKUAg said:

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Reed doesn't play run defense. This was a team loss.

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Hard not to blame the guy running the offense when you put up 3 points at home. Basically they asked the defense for a shutout. So if the defense not shutting out the other team isn't good enough then it's a team loss.

Dr. Alister MacKenzie said:

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Which one?

Reed
Elko
Klein

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This

Garbage starts with Klein and the genius that allowed him to stay on. Incredibly stupid move. With a decent offensive gameplan, even an "off" Reed should have beaten this team given the D keeping us in it. Incompetence is still our friend.

BTKAG97 said:

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Anyone else notice issues started when the Heisman talk and the accompanying interviews ramped up about 4-6 weeks ago?

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Exactly! This is also, coincidentally, the same time he stopped running and tried to become a pocket passer.

Reed was missing 5-10 yard passes over and over. It was absolutely pathetic.

Wound Haynes King have won that game for us today?

The OC should be trying to create plays that utilize the talent we have…Leach, Kiffin, Petrino would salivate with talent we have on offense. Klein tried to turn Reed into a pocket passer, and Klein did not have any consistent rushing attack past 2 seasons. Reed shares some of this loss, but Klein is primary point of contention. Good luck to him at KState but his play calling particularly today w/ 2+ weeks of "preparation" (and Elko tolerating this) was in the toilet…

Reed would have been better if we were not so one dimensional. We were one dimensional because we couldn't run. We couldn't run because our OL could not open uo holes.

This game cost this year's' seniors on the OL big time. With what I saw their draft stock dropped like a stone. Especially Zuhn and Crownover. They likely costs themselves millions because they have played like ass the last two games. You know what I see when I look at those guys and I'm a NFL GM? Major projects and day 3 picks. Maybe even late on day 3.

Elko better go out and get some good OL guys from the portal if he wants to win anything.

2Legit_92 said:

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Wound Haynes King have won that game for us today?

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No. He was inaccurate too.

There are so many BS excuses on here for Reed's play. When he had time and wide open receivers he couldn't get the ball to them. Most of his throws were off target. Even when he completed one, it was usually in a bad spot so the receiver had to turn around instead of getting it in stride for an opportunity for yardage after the catch. He absolutely cost us this game. Anyone who thinks otherwise is crazy.

OL and lack of running game was a much, MUCH bigger issue than Reed, though Reed didn't play great.

Reed still has ALOT of growth and is nowhere near his ceiling, as Elko said.

QBs take the blame and the glory, good or bad right or wrong. Any reasonable 3rd party would put this loss squarely on the OL though acknowledging QB1 didn't have his best game…… in no small part due to the OL.

There is a bunch of blame to go around, it wasn't all Reed by any objective measure.

Reed - hasn't played good in the last 2 games, and really didn't play all that well against whatever directional school we played before tu. Bad passes and inaccurate passes killed us.

Offensive line - they got absolutely prison raped all game by Miami's defensive line. It was pathetic watching them get absolutely blown the F up on every play. As a result our running game was non-existent and that filtered into our passing game being crap as well. Reed has a hard time being above 60% when he has time in the pocket, and he never had time in the pocket the entire game.

Defensive line - 2nd game in a row they got their asses handed to them by the opposing team's offensive line. 2nd game in a row our unanimous all american's name wasn't called all game long. They got beat and they never got pressure on Beck, which allowed him to be marginally good enough to win. Had we even sniffed a sack or two, things would have been different I think.

Coaching staff - did an absolutely terrible job at playing to our strengths or making adjustments, which is somethign they had done pretty well most of the season.

Officials - at least 3 significant penalties that would likely have had an impact that weren't called. Late hit on Reed, the late hit out of bounds in front of 2 freaking officials on our sideline on 3rd down that should have extended our drive, and the helmet to helmet that knocked the Miami defender out of the freaking game but apparently wasn't a targeting penalty right at the end that should have given us 1st and goal from the 1 or 2.

All in all, we collectively played like crap. Yeah, the defense held Miami to 10. But they gave up the game winning touchdown in horrific fashion at the end of the game when it counted the most. We just sucked all around for the most part. Typical A&M in late season big games, this year it just started a little later than normal.

Reed's lack of accuracy has been an issue all along. It's not just about completion percentage, it involves a Quarterback's ability to hit a receiver in stride, or to make an accurate throw where a receiver is stopped and waiting for a pass (Bubble Screens) allowing the receiver to make a move quickly after the catch and not have to jump, reach way down, reach back, etc. just to make the catch. That absolutely destroys those type of plays. Also, where a RB is coming out of the backfield as a check down receiver so that they also don't have to make big adjustments just to catch the ball.

Accuracy by the Quarterback leads to respect by defenders of the passing ability which allows a running game to improve. Also, if the defense is concerned about accurate slant throws, WR Bubble screens, 10 yard crossing patterns, Curl routes, etc., then the defense is much more susceptible to long passes.

schmellba99 said:

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There is a bunch of blame to go around, it wasn't all Reed by any objective measure.

Reed - hasn't played good in the last 2 games, and really didn't play all that well against whatever directional school we played before tu. Bad passes and inaccurate passes killed us.

Offensive line - they got absolutely prison raped all game by Miami's defensive line. It was pathetic watching them get absolutely blown the F up on every play. As a result our running game was non-existent and that filtered into our passing game being crap as well. Reed has a hard time being above 60% when he has time in the pocket, and he never had time in the pocket the entire game.

Defensive line - 2nd game in a row they got their asses handed to them by the opposing team's offensive line. 2nd game in a row our unanimous all american's name wasn't called all game long. They got beat and they never got pressure on Beck, which allowed him to be marginally good enough to win. Had we even sniffed a sack or two, things would have been different I think.

Coaching staff - did an absolutely terrible job at playing to our strengths or making adjustments, which is somethign they had done pretty well most of the season.

Officials - at least 3 significant penalties that would likely have had an impact that weren't called. Late hit on Reed, the late hit out of bounds in front of 2 freaking officials on our sideline on 3rd down that should have extended our drive, and the helmet to helmet that knocked the Miami defender out of the freaking game but apparently wasn't a targeting penalty right at the end that should have given us 1st and goal from the 1 or 2.

All in all, we collectively played like crap. Yeah, the defense held Miami to 10. But they gave up the game winning touchdown in horrific fashion at the end of the game when it counted the most. We just sucked all around for the most part. Typical A&M in late season big games, this year it just started a little later than normal.

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You cannot put any of this on the defense. They gave up only 10 points! And that is after two Reed turnovers (not counting the one in the end zone to end the season). No, the team did not collectively play like crap. The defense was great. The OL did not have a great game, but it didn't matter. When Reed had time, he SUCKED. Make just a few better throws and we win. He failed over and over again. A decent (even mediocre) QB wins that game.

I'm genuinely curious how y'all put blame on the defense. Sure, they **** the bed on the 60 yard run.

But do y'all really think the standard is to give up 3 points? Anything more than that is a disappointment and failure from the defensive unit?

Crazy....

Ozamataz Buckshank 01 said:

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TxAg76 said:

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Reed lost that game entirely on his own. Anyone and everyone can blame him if they want. I won't miss Klein but Reed was pure garbage today.

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This x1000

It's not about the last play.
He played like sh*t the entire day.

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He played like that for 2 games straight.

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0:00 Hike
0:00.5 Pocket collapses

Peyton Manning, Dan Marino, John Elway, and Tom Brady would throw the ball over or behind receivers in that situation (and they did). This is not on Marcel Reed.

Reed followed very strict orders up the chain:
a) Don't run.
b) Stand in the pocket.
c) Go through primary, secondary, checkdown.

Before (b), he had ZERO time for progressions. No QB in the history of football can do that. EXCEPTION: OC plans for pocket collapse and/or lets his QB run. Everyone keeps saying, "Reed looked terrible over the last two game!" Guess what? The pocket lasted one full second less during those final two games.

It's a minor miracle that Reed did as well as he was able to do throughout the season with seconds less than most QBs. Games are won and lost in the trenches. No OL, no offense. No DL, give up 8 long runs. Teams with an OL and a DL win championships. We have neither.

tl;dr Please stop blaming Reed, it's certainly a simple and easy explanation, and it's also 100% wrong.

Frank Grimes said:

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There are so many BS excuses on here for Reed's play. When he had time and wide open receivers he couldn't get the ball to them. Most of his throws were off target. Even when he completed one, it was usually in a bad spot so the receiver had to turn around instead of getting it in stride for an opportunity for yardage after the catch. He absolutely cost us this game. Anyone who thinks otherwise is crazy.

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We had one of the best offenses in the country until the last two games. Our offense averaged 35 points per game. Marcel Reed was the QB throughout the entire season. Until we hit the red zone, that long drive at the end of the 4th Q was 80% Reed and 20% Klein. Near the ten, Klein called the three passes. Reed is guilty of following orders.

Re: DL, you must have watched a different game. The DL played well, very well until Regis went down. The biggest problem on D was the LBs, has been all season whenever the D struggled or were not good enough.

The DL this season was very good, many SEC teams would like to have our DL. The LBs in the other hand, our starting 2 LBs would not see the field for probably the top 4 or 5 SEC defenses IMHO.

Klein is an extremely bad OC. Reed is a mediocre QB. I blame the man in charge. Elko needs to win something before he scolds the fans. It's one thing if he thinks Reed is suspect but the best he has and doesn't want to fire Klein before the end of the season. But you should keep your mouth shut when fans choose to believe their lying eyes.

I can blame him because he demands money to play
And if you're going to demand money to play then I can demand results
And the results suck

gwoodtamu said:

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I'll blame him, Reed was ****ing awful, and the entire reason you lost. Imagine having to look your defense in the face knowing you couldn't ****ing muster 11 points, at home, in a playoff game, Trash.

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The only things "Trash" is this post

From_Zachry_to_Blocker said:

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Frank Grimes said:

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There are so many BS excuses on here for Reed's play. When he had time and wide open receivers he couldn't get the ball to them. Most of his throws were off target. Even when he completed one, it was usually in a bad spot so the receiver had to turn around instead of getting it in stride for an opportunity for yardage after the catch. He absolutely cost us this game. Anyone who thinks otherwise is crazy.

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We had one of the best offenses in the country until the last two games. Our offense averaged 35 points per game. Marcel Reed was the QB throughout the entire season. Until we hit the red zone, that long drive at the end of the 4th Q was 80% Reed and 20% Klein. Near the ten, Klein called the three passes. Reed is guilty of following orders.

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Klein called all the plays, not just the last three.

Edit to say that the orders to Reed were never to throw poor passes and interceptions. That's what he is guilty of.