Reed needs JFF's private off season coach that helped him to stop throwing interceptions before being named QB1.

And we will go 8-4 at best because of it

Miles or Brady MAY have an impact on this. Ya just never know what lies ahead in this crazy ass college football world

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Op, you kept calling people grievers all year for saying exactly what you just posted

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We exceeded my expectations so I'm not crying like the rest of y'all. And y'all grievers turned out to be way wrong again so there's also that. But we ended up leaving too much opportunity on the table in the end.

I think the play calling was culprit #1, followed by the OL play and Reed. But Reed will undoubtedly be our QB next season so you'd better come to terms now and spare yourself.

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He is just NOT a division 1 quality quarterback

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Here's the problem with Reed; when he's at his best, he absolutely is a high-level D1 QB. You're just only going to get his best for about 8 quarters out of the season, and you have no clue when those quarters will happen. The rest of the season is a mix of average and downright awful.

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reed is best when his oline is at its best. any pressure and he gets flustered and makes mistakes. his mechanics are not good but any pass rush causes him to jump around.

I like Reed, but he's not consistently accurate enough.

Also, hesitates to run too much.


I hope he corrects those issues. The hesitation he can. The accuracy.....ehhhhh. I'll have to see it to believe it.

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Op, you kept calling people grievers all year for saying exactly what you just posted

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We exceeded my expectations so I'm not crying like the rest of y'all. And y'all grievers turned out to be way wrong again so there's also that. But we ended up leaving too much opportunity on the table in the end.

I think the play calling was culprit #1, followed by the OL play and Reed. But Reed will undoubtedly be our QB next season so you'd better come to terms now and spare yourself.

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No one was ever crying.... you & the other pumpers are just very sensitive & not capable of having reasonable discussion


Appears you've finally come around... It just took you much longer to come to the same realization we had long ago...


This season was fun & Reed still has a very high ceiling if we can get a decent oline in place & he can figure out how to play quarterback consistently

But we were never serious contenders for anything

Reed will be just fine and we will win 10 games next year and everyone will be saying we had a cupcake schedule….again.
Below was week 2 rankings this year. Everyone said the same thing….8-4 if we're lucky….Middle of the road. We went 11-0 before our first loss. The TU and Miami losses were a total mind F*** on what this team accomplished. Elko has us going in the right direction. In year 2 we made the playoffs. Until we don't make the playoffs, let's give the man the benefit of the doubt. At the beginning of the year, no one thought this was a cupcake schedule and not many thought the playoffs would happen. Lot of football ahead of us. LFG Aggies!!!

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Pichael Thompson said:

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Op, you kept calling people grievers all year for saying exactly what you just posted

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We exceeded my expectations so I'm not crying like the rest of y'all. And y'all grievers turned out to be way wrong again so there's also that. But we ended up leaving too much opportunity on the table in the end.

I think the play calling was culprit #1, followed by the OL play and Reed. But Reed will undoubtedly be our QB next season so you'd better come to terms now and spare yourself.

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No one was ever crying.... you & the other pumpers are just very sensitive & not capable of having reasonable discussion


Appears you've finally come around... It just took you much longer to come to the same realization we had long ago...


This season was fun & Reed still has a very high ceiling if we can get a decent oline in place & he can figure out how to play quarterback consistently

But we were never serious contenders for anything

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Pot meet kettle? If predicting 9-3 is pumping to you then you can't be helped off the ledge. It's you cry babies who can't have reasonable discussion, just look at y'all bleeding to death in here.

Y'all have a long couple years ahead of you watching Aggie football if you can't handle the season we just had and realize that we're stuck with your boy Reed for the foreseeable future.

Not D1 is insane. You don't watch much football outside of A&M I take it. Even Tulane which is a playoff team has a qb that isn't half as good as Reed. He could go to a lot of P4 schools and be the day 1 starter.

I think it's a little ludicrous that people are ready to write off Marcel so quickly. He is a sophomore. If your child wasn't all-conference in their sport by their sophomore year you'd tell them to quit right? Of course not. We all acknowledge that players can develop from their sophomore to their senior year in basically any other capacity besides college football for some reason. The only reason any of us are down on Marcel is because he was good enough to start as a sophomore in the first place and we had the opportunity to see his strengths and his flaws.

Yes I know he redshirted so this is technically his third year. Yes I know kids get paid these days so we shouldn't have any patience with their development. Can you give me a good reason not to expect Marcel to take another jump and be a better quarterback next year? He already took good strides in his game last offseason.

We are all pissed about how bad he and the offense played to end the year but it would be an overreaction to write him off and make a QB change.

What I see with Reed:

I think he's a good/solid SEC QB. He showed alot of growth this year with his processing. He's getting better at making adjustments at the line and knowing where to go with the ball.

He doesn't have elite speed, juke or size, but he's got enough mobility to be dangerous and force defenses to respect him.

With his arm, it's truly a "take the good with the bad" situation. He has a hyper motion of sorts that allows him to get the ball out quickly and with good velocity for someone his size, but with those traits comes volatility in terms of accuracy and proper touch.

From a passing production standpoint, he reminds me a little bit of Mond because he puts up good/solid numbers but leaves too many yards/points on the field with inaccuracy. The play against Miami where he one-hopped a WIDE OPEN KC was a perfect microcosm.

But it's not just the ones that aren't completed. Our receivers routinely have to make drastic adjustments to catch his passes. Sometimes that means diving to catch a ball that would have generated a great YAC opportunity. Sometimes that means jumping or turning around. Things that give the defense a split second longer to adjust and cut-down easy YAC.

All that said, when you net out the good with the bad, we can win alot of games with Reed and our 11-win season shows that it's possible. I'm not eager to throw him to the curb. But I also don't see us winning any hardware with him because of two things:

1) He's not built for cold/windy late-season games. Adding an extra variable to already-volatile passing ability is not a good recipe. In normal weather conditions against most teams, Reed can make up for his inevitable misses by hitting a few big shots or hitting a few well designed downfield crosses. When strong wind is added to that mix and even completing shorter passes is tough, he's going to struggle and turn the ball over.

2) The inaccurate throws that cost us downfield completions/YAC are devastating as the competition level increases. We can get away with it against the low/mid SEC teams, but you only get so many looks per game at chunk plays against the best defenses. If you want to win the biggest games against the best teams, you have to convert when opportunity presents itself.

Reed is only at his best against middle-of-the-road teams/defenses, but to be fair, that goes for any QB. The question is can he at least be serviceable against good defenses. The answer is no.

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Go rewatch the game and how badly he missed his targets
And it's not just 2 games
Go look at first half of SC game

He's an athlete playing QB not a QB who's an athlete

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Yep he missed, the wind didn't help and Klein didn't account for it either which was more of a problem. He played poorly, not sure why are yall are acting like I'm saying otherwise.

He missed as many targets as Klein did good play calls, and less than OL whiffs. The loss doesn't land on one person unfortunately for y'all simpletons, it's a little more complicated than that.

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And we will go 8-4 at best because of it

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That and the lack of an offensive line and any kind of running game. Oh, and we can't kick field goals.

I expect us to go crazy for new kicker and possibly new punter next year. With Bond and Zirkel out, that makes the recruiting pitch for an elite kicker easy: come join a winning program and be the guy from day 1.

With no expectations, Celly plays loose and makes throws that are provocative. When we're down by a million vs SCAR, he played like he NEEDED to move the ball, and he did.

When he had a lot of pressure to perform, he second guessed those provocative passes and checked it down, often patting the ball a ton and feet all over the place.

Also….where did the TE seam throw go? We had some TE vertical throws early on that disappeared late in the season.

I just don't get it…. Marcel has the talent, but down the stretch got too focused on not throwing INTs that he never moved the ball effectively consistently.

Then near the goal line he HAD to throw…. often forcing it in a panic, and throwing multiple endzone INTs.

It's between the ears.

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reed is best when his oline is at its best. any pressure and he gets flustered and makes mistakes. his mechanics are not good but any pass rush causes him to jump around.

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First off, what QB isn't at his best when he gets protection. ANY PRESSURE??? Reed didn't have time to look up before he was being chased from the get-go. The ONLY reason we had any offense at all was either his passing or scrambling, and I do mean scrambling. Stats don't mean much to you? Look at the rushing stats. TERRIBLE when your QB leads the team with 27 yards in rushing that included 5 sacks.

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I expect us to go crazy for new kicker and possibly new punter next year. With Bond and Zirkel out, that makes the recruiting pitch for an elite kicker easy: come join a winning program and be the guy from day 1.

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We ended up doing that with Zirkel this year. My guess is that no one in the organization can identify what a good kicker looks like so even if they do pay top $, doesn't mean the player will actually be able to kick

Zirkel was never an elite pick up. Elko stated that part of why they weren't able to land anyone better than Zirkel in the portal is because of how consistent Randy has been the last 3-4 years. No one wants to transfer in to sit behind an established starter. Now that Randy is gone, it should make recruiting an elite kicker far easier.

And for what it's worth, identifying what a good kicker looks like has to be one of the easier recruiting evaluations in the entire sport. Made FG%s from each 10-yard increment tells pretty much the entire story assuming their snap and hold guys were adequate. You could train a monkey to do the evaluation and I'm sure Elko and staff are capable.

OP, please explain how it's Kliens fault that Reed turned the ball over 3 times last game? On the fumble Reed didn't even know the play. All 10 other players did. The Int at middle field was 5 yards behind the WR. The Int to end the game, at no point was he open.
Sadly I do agree Reed will be the starter next season. With 6 QBs on the roster I doubt we get one via the portal who would challenge Reed. On paper we have a much tougher schedule, Reed needs to take strides as a passer and not depend on his athletic ability if we want to win those games.

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OP, please explain how it's Kliens fault that Reed turned the ball over 3 times last game? On the fumble Reed didn't even know the play. All 10 other players did. The Int at middle field was 5 yards behind the WR. The Int to end the game, at no point was he open.
Sadly I do agree Reed will be the starter next season. With 6 QBs on the roster I doubt we get one via the portal who would challenge Reed. On paper we have a much tougher schedule, Reed needs to take strides as a passer and not depend on his athletic ability if we want to win those games.

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Y'all bozos still arguing with yourselves? Reed sucked. Klein sucked worse. The OL sucked as well.

Most of y'all suck so you should be able to relate.

I watched the replay. The ~20 yard ball that Reed underthrew to KC early in the 4th probably would have been a TD if he hits him in stride. Sickening. I like Reed and he has won us a lot of big games, but he also has lots of opportunity for improvement. I think the experience he has gained will help him and I support him 100%. We need to be better running the ball next year, there's no reason A&M shouldn't have a good running game every season.

Most on this dumb board though he was a heisman candidate before the texas game

Of course if he transfers to OU he'll win it

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Yes, Reed melted down when it mattered most, twice. And the OL and OC did absolutely nothing to help.

But believe me, you Reed will be QB1 next season. The top QB market is supposedly commanding $4-5 mil. I know the zoo can't comprehend that number but it's a lot for something that guarantees nothing.

The reality is that Elko and Wiggins are fully invested in Reed and expect him to take another step next year like any Jr QB should.

Just two games ago Reed was top 5 in the heisman race and the big heads were stupidly asking if he was nfl bound, which we all knew he wasn't. But things change fast, and now every pot banger in this place is calling for his head.

I'm not going to defend him much after only scoring 1 TD in the 2 most important games in memory. But Klein's play calling in these two games was as big of an issue, an the OL showed up with their mouths only.

We need to hire a top QB guru this off-season and Reed takes the next step next year coupled with better OL play and play calling. It's a lot to ask and BAS doesn't tell you want to hear, but that's the best we can hope for.

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It's a hard situation, there's not a simple answer to….. but I'd like to present some conversation topics.
1) more than 1 thing can be true….. he has some great moments, but also had some huge failures. Failures don't erase the success, but vice versa is also true
2) he was surrounded by a ton of talent, along with a premier OL in college football the majority of the year
3) Ihave my issues with some of the play design/calling, but that's the same play-caller getting guys wide open when Marcel has his biggest misses too
4) No way to know what Marcel will develop into, and no way to know how successful a portal guy will be.

As for me, I'd be more willing to put my $$ on a portal guy, then a guy with as many starts as Marcel who can't throw the stop and curl routes consistently to arguably the best WR group in the country. But I also see the other side too

Arkansas State star QB Jaylen Raynor is expected to enter the transfer portal, a sources tell me and @chris_hummer.

Three-year starter at Arkansas State who accounted for totals this year of 3,361 passing yards, 423 rushing yards and 26 total touchdowns. pic.twitter.com/yrbhx9NmEs

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