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Washington is trying to stop him from entering the transfer portal because he signed his revenue contract last week and now he wants to leave. LSU is likely landing spot if he is able.

I think he ends up in Baton Rouge, but will be interesting if he doesn't and LSU passed on Leavitt for him
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HoustonAg2106 said:

Because I really hope LSU is left standing without a chair to sit on.

Washington is trying to stop him from entering the transfer portal because he signed his revenue contract last week and now he wants to leave. LSU is likely landing spot if he is able.

I think he ends up in Baton Rouge, but will laugh hard if he doesn't and LSU passed on Leavitt for him


I think Leavitt passed on LSU not them passing on Leavitt lol

This will be an interesting case to watch for sure
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Agvet12 said:

HoustonAg2106 said:

Because I really hope LSU is left standing without a chair to sit on.

Washington is trying to stop him from entering the transfer portal because he signed his revenue contract last week and now he wants to leave. LSU is likely landing spot if he is able.

I think he ends up in Baton Rouge, but will laugh hard if he doesn't and LSU passed on Leavitt for him


I think Leavitt passed on LSU not them passing on Leavitt lol

This will be an interesting case to watch for sure



Leavitt was visiting LSU and had no other visits lined up and reports were that it was going very well and they were expecting him to commit before he left.

He went to the LSU basketball game with Lane Tuesday night and then after the game Demond Williams enters the portal and an hour later Leavitt has a visit with Tennessee lined up for the next day.

I think it's pretty obvious that Demond became available and they told Leavitt nevermind. Lane had recruited Demond twice before once in high school and again when he was at Arizona and entered the portal to follow his coach to Washington
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Everything Kiffin does is an awful look

He's a pos human
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Levitt is running out of landing spots for the $$ he wants. Miami, Bama or Oregon remain
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Pichael Thompson said:

Everything Kiffin does is an awful look

He's a pos human
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Pichael Thompson said:

Everything Kiffin does is an awful look

He's a pos human

True but he's cleaning up in the portal
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I look forward to one of these cases blowing up in court. I'm in favor of players getting paid, but not at the expense of violating signed contracts. This crap puts Washington in an impossible position.

Ready for as much egg on Lane Quittin' as possible too.


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Barnacle said:

I look forward to one of these cases blowing up in court. I'm in favor of players getting paid, but not at the expense of violating signed contracts. This crap puts Washington in an impossible position.

Ready for as much egg on Lane Quittin' as possible too.





Why would coaches be allowed to break contracts (which they do all the time) but players aren't?

Serious question.
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HoustonAg2106 said:

Barnacle said:

I look forward to one of these cases blowing up in court. I'm in favor of players getting paid, but not at the expense of violating signed contracts. This crap puts Washington in an impossible position.

Ready for as much egg on Lane Quittin' as possible too.





Why would coaches be allowed to break contracts (which they do all the time) but players aren't?

Serious question.


Why do we even bother with contracts at all?

Serious question.
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Pichael Thompson said:

Everything Kiffin does is an awful look

He's a pos human

I disagree, have you seen his daughter?
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HoustonAg2106 said:

Barnacle said:

I look forward to one of these cases blowing up in court. I'm in favor of players getting paid, but not at the expense of violating signed contracts. This crap puts Washington in an impossible position.

Ready for as much egg on Lane Quittin' as possible too.





Why would coaches be allowed to break contracts (which they do all the time) but players aren't?

Serious question.
Coaches negotiate contract terms that are fulfilled if they leave, or negotiated in the aftermath. Players could do the same. Either way, "breaking" a contract is only the condition if one party stiffs another. Choosing to leave before defined term limits is simply choosing a different out. Truly "breaking" a contract is what LSU was originally attempting to do to Brian Kelly.
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GoAgs92 said:

Pichael Thompson said:

Everything Kiffin does is an awful look

He's a pos human

I disagree, have you seen his daughter?


Every female....
No matter how smokin' hot they may be....

Some man, somewhere....is 100% tired of her sh*t
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Leavitt is interesting....
Makes me wonder if he's holding out for Oregon, and just playing the game with everyone else in the interim.
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soleta27 said:

Levitt is running out of landing spots for the $$ he wants. Miami, Bama or Oregon remain
He's so far been linked to 4 different schools we play next year. Beginning with his Arizona State, then it's been LSU, Kentucky, and now Tennessee if that's true.
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npc said:

HoustonAg2106 said:

Barnacle said:

I look forward to one of these cases blowing up in court. I'm in favor of players getting paid, but not at the expense of violating signed contracts. This crap puts Washington in an impossible position.

Ready for as much egg on Lane Quittin' as possible too.





Why would coaches be allowed to break contracts (which they do all the time) but players aren't?

Serious question.
Coaches negotiate contract terms that are fulfilled if they leave, or negotiated in the aftermath. Players could do the same. Either way, "breaking" a contract is only the condition if one party stiffs another. Choosing to leave before defined term limits is simply choosing a different out. Truly "breaking" a contract is what LSU was originally attempting to do to Brian Kelly.



I don't see the difference between a coach who has signed a contract and leaves before that contract is completed and what this Demond kid is doing.

The player agreed to a certain amount to play next year and he is deciding he doesn't want to be there anymore so he doesn't get paid now. What enforcement does this contract have to make him stay at that school? If they paid him up front then just make him pay back the money
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HoustonAg2106 said:

npc said:

HoustonAg2106 said:

Barnacle said:

I look forward to one of these cases blowing up in court. I'm in favor of players getting paid, but not at the expense of violating signed contracts. This crap puts Washington in an impossible position.

Ready for as much egg on Lane Quittin' as possible too.





Why would coaches be allowed to break contracts (which they do all the time) but players aren't?

Serious question.

Coaches negotiate contract terms that are fulfilled if they leave, or negotiated in the aftermath. Players could do the same. Either way, "breaking" a contract is only the condition if one party stiffs another. Choosing to leave before defined term limits is simply choosing a different out. Truly "breaking" a contract is what LSU was originally attempting to do to Brian Kelly.



I don't see the difference between a coach who has signed a contract and leaves before that contract is completed and what this Demond kid is doing.

The players agreed to a certain amount to play next year and he is deciding he doesn't want to be there anymore so he doesn't get paid now. What enforcement does this contract have to make him stay at that school? If they paid him up front then just make him pay back the money

Coaches have buyouts that "complete" the contract, should they leave. If coaches signed a contract saying they agree not to coach anywhere until their term runs up, and they leave, then they did not "complete" their contract. It sounds like this player signed a contract saying he can't play anywhere else. That will likely be found as overly restrictive. Associating a buyout with a player leaving would have better legal standing.
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The Banned said:

HoustonAg2106 said:

npc said:

HoustonAg2106 said:

Barnacle said:

I look forward to one of these cases blowing up in court. I'm in favor of players getting paid, but not at the expense of violating signed contracts. This crap puts Washington in an impossible position.

Ready for as much egg on Lane Quittin' as possible too.





Why would coaches be allowed to break contracts (which they do all the time) but players aren't?

Serious question.

Coaches negotiate contract terms that are fulfilled if they leave, or negotiated in the aftermath. Players could do the same. Either way, "breaking" a contract is only the condition if one party stiffs another. Choosing to leave before defined term limits is simply choosing a different out. Truly "breaking" a contract is what LSU was originally attempting to do to Brian Kelly.



I don't see the difference between a coach who has signed a contract and leaves before that contract is completed and what this Demond kid is doing.

The players agreed to a certain amount to play next year and he is deciding he doesn't want to be there anymore so he doesn't get paid now. What enforcement does this contract have to make him stay at that school? If they paid him up front then just make him pay back the money

Coaches have buyouts that "complete" the contract, should they leave. If coaches signed a contract saying they agree not to coach anywhere until their term runs up, and they leave, then they did not "complete" their contract. It sounds like this player signed a contract saying he can't play anywhere else. That will likely be found as overly restrictive. Associating a buyout with a player leaving would have better legal standing.



I haven't heard anything about Demond's contract requiring a buyout if he left early, that would be different but I haven't heard that report to be the case.

If the contract states that he's not allowed to go to another school and that is what they are trying to enforce it won't hold up.
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HoustonAg2106 said:

The Banned said:

HoustonAg2106 said:

npc said:

HoustonAg2106 said:

Barnacle said:

I look forward to one of these cases blowing up in court. I'm in favor of players getting paid, but not at the expense of violating signed contracts. This crap puts Washington in an impossible position.

Ready for as much egg on Lane Quittin' as possible too.





Why would coaches be allowed to break contracts (which they do all the time) but players aren't?

Serious question.

Coaches negotiate contract terms that are fulfilled if they leave, or negotiated in the aftermath. Players could do the same. Either way, "breaking" a contract is only the condition if one party stiffs another. Choosing to leave before defined term limits is simply choosing a different out. Truly "breaking" a contract is what LSU was originally attempting to do to Brian Kelly.



I don't see the difference between a coach who has signed a contract and leaves before that contract is completed and what this Demond kid is doing.

The players agreed to a certain amount to play next year and he is deciding he doesn't want to be there anymore so he doesn't get paid now. What enforcement does this contract have to make him stay at that school? If they paid him up front then just make him pay back the money

Coaches have buyouts that "complete" the contract, should they leave. If coaches signed a contract saying they agree not to coach anywhere until their term runs up, and they leave, then they did not "complete" their contract. It sounds like this player signed a contract saying he can't play anywhere else. That will likely be found as overly restrictive. Associating a buyout with a player leaving would have better legal standing.



I haven't heard anything about Demond's contract requiring a buyout if he left early, that would be different but I haven't heard that report to be the case.

If the contract states that he's not allowed to go to another school and that is what they are trying to enforce it won't hold up.

Correct, there is no buyout.

Also correct that the contract says he can't play elsewhere. I think you are correct it won't hold up in court, but technically it is possible. They have given consideration in every sense of the word, so a noncompete would be enforceable in a state like Texas. No idea about Washington laws. Nor do I know about interstate laws, as they are attempting to prevent him from playing in an entirely different conference the Washington is only in competition with in theory. IDK
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The Banned said:

HoustonAg2106 said:

The Banned said:

HoustonAg2106 said:

npc said:

HoustonAg2106 said:

Barnacle said:

I look forward to one of these cases blowing up in court. I'm in favor of players getting paid, but not at the expense of violating signed contracts. This crap puts Washington in an impossible position.

Ready for as much egg on Lane Quittin' as possible too.





Why would coaches be allowed to break contracts (which they do all the time) but players aren't?

Serious question.

Coaches negotiate contract terms that are fulfilled if they leave, or negotiated in the aftermath. Players could do the same. Either way, "breaking" a contract is only the condition if one party stiffs another. Choosing to leave before defined term limits is simply choosing a different out. Truly "breaking" a contract is what LSU was originally attempting to do to Brian Kelly.



I don't see the difference between a coach who has signed a contract and leaves before that contract is completed and what this Demond kid is doing.

The players agreed to a certain amount to play next year and he is deciding he doesn't want to be there anymore so he doesn't get paid now. What enforcement does this contract have to make him stay at that school? If they paid him up front then just make him pay back the money

Coaches have buyouts that "complete" the contract, should they leave. If coaches signed a contract saying they agree not to coach anywhere until their term runs up, and they leave, then they did not "complete" their contract. It sounds like this player signed a contract saying he can't play anywhere else. That will likely be found as overly restrictive. Associating a buyout with a player leaving would have better legal standing.



I haven't heard anything about Demond's contract requiring a buyout if he left early, that would be different but I haven't heard that report to be the case.

If the contract states that he's not allowed to go to another school and that is what they are trying to enforce it won't hold up.

Correct, there is no buyout.

Also correct that the contract says he can't play elsewhere. I think you are correct it won't hold up in court, but technically it is possible. They have given consideration in every sense of the word, so a noncompete would be enforceable in a state like Texas. No idea about Washington laws. Nor do I know about interstate laws, as they are attempting to prevent him from playing in an entirely different conference the Washington is only in competition with in theory. IDK


There is a former Wisconsin player (Xavier Lucas) that signed this exact same contract last year because apparently this is a standard contract across the Big 10. After he signed he decided he wanted to go to Miami and this same exact drama played out. Xavier Lucas will be playing for Miami tomorrow night just FYI.
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Every contract I've ever been involved with had specific termination provisions included in it, and liquidated damages for not following them. But those were not employment contracts. And I don't think this contract is public so don't know what is in it or how the law and provisions would actually apply.

But guaranteed there are probably a couple employment lawyers on Texags that can spell out the likely course this will take. Would love to hear from them, as this is likely to become a more frequent occurrence in what is now the Wild West of CFB
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the demon Williams contract with Washington is specifically not an employment contract
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northeastag said:

Every contract I've ever been involved with had specific termination provisions included in it, and liquidated damages for not following them. But those were not employment contracts. And I don't think this contract is public so don't know what is in it or how the law and provisions would actually apply.

But guaranteed there are probably a couple employment lawyers on Texags that can spell out the likely course this will take. Would love to hear from them, as this is likely to become a more frequent occurrence in what is now the Wild West of CFB

These are not employment contracts, the players are not employees of the school. Maybe that misconception is why so many think Washington can actually stop Demond from transferring to another school.

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I hope Washington is able to enforce this. We've got to start moving towards some kind of structure
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ElephantRider said:

I hope Washington is able to enforce this. We've got to start moving towards some kind of structure

They are not able to enforce this. Wisconsin tried to stop Xavier Lucas from doing this exact same thing to go to Miami...you'll seem him play tonight for the Hurricanes.
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Demond's agent also represents the Washington head coach...I think this is the first sign that he's for sure leaving.
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How did the Lucas situation get resolved? Did Wisconsin lose a lawsuit with the player? Was there a settlement? I see there is still litigation between Wisconsin and Miami for damages.

Maybe Wisonsin didn't feel the juice was worth the squeeze going after the player. Maybe they thought they didn't have a chance in court?

It seems Washington is saying "every legal ave" so maybe they do go after the player. The legal process would take a long while, does a restraining order get applied stopping the player from doing anything?

Does it matter what states they are in Wisconsin vs Washington?
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althepal97 said:

How did the Lucas situation get resolved? Did Wisconsin lose a lawsuit with the player? Was there a settlement? I see there is still litigation between Wisconsin and Miami for damages.

Maybe Wisonsin didn't feel the juice was worth the squeeze going after the player. Maybe they thought they didn't have a chance in court?

It seems Washington is saying "every legal ave" so maybe they do go after the player. The legal process would take a long while, does a restraining order get applied stopping the player from doing anything?

Does it matter what states they are in Wisconsin vs Washington?

Xavier Lucas was denied entry into the portal by Wisconsin the same was Washington is doing to Demond. Xavier Lucas decided to drop out as a student from Wisconsin and applied to the University of Miami as a normal student. Once there he was made offer to join the football team and he has been playing for them ever since.

Wisconsin is suing Miami for damages which I don't totally understand how they can claim that, but the fact remains that there is or entity in this country that can stop a student from choosing where they want to attend school and by proxy play football. The NCAA has no enforcement mechanism and these contracts are not employment contracts.

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HoustonAg2106 said:

BMX Bandit said:



Demond's agent also represents the Washington head coach...I think this is the first sign that he's for sure leaving.

I don't mean to get off-topic, but the representation piece might be an aspect of NIL that needs to be reeled in for the future. An interesting part of the Brian Kelly LSU apocalypse after the A&M game was the fact that Woodward, Kelly, and Garrett Nussmeier all had the same agent.
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Ray Baker said:

HoustonAg2106 said:

BMX Bandit said:



Demond's agent also represents the Washington head coach...I think this is the first sign that he's for sure leaving.

I don't mean to get off-topic, but the representation piece might be an aspect of NIL that needs to be reeled in for the future. An interesting part of the Brian Kelly LSU apocalypse after the A&M game was the fact that Woodward, Kelly, and Garrett Nussmeier all had the same agent.

Are there rules in the NFL regarding this? Can Pat Mahomes and Andy Reid have the same agent? I honestly don't know the answer, but I agree on it's surface it seems like a conflict of interest.

EDIT: Google AI says yes players and coaches on the same team in the NFL can have the same agent. There is no way to stop it I guess
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Calling it now Leavitt will be an Oregon Duck when Dante Moore declares for the draft after the CFP.
Demond Williams will be made an example and forced to stay at Washington, he will be the start of a massive snowball effect of new rules implemented for the next season...

This is literally worse than the NFL, college players are currently all on 1 year contracts and can leave however many teams they want. Again, wouldn't be shocked if Williams is the first example of a deal gone wrong.
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constructionaggie said:

Calling it now Leavitt will be an Oregon Duck when Dante Moore declares for the draft after the CFP.
Demond Williams will be made an example and forced to stay at Washington, he will be the start of a massive snowball effect of new rules implemented for the next season...

This is literally worse than the NFL, college players are currently all on 1 year contracts and can leave however many teams they want. Again, wouldn't be shocked if Williams is the first example of a deal gone wrong.

LOL seriously, what entity has the authority in this country to force someone to go to college where they don't want to? I assure the NCAA or the courts do not.
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Mars has solid record of bearing the ncaa. Currently representing Trinidad Chambless.

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I think you're missing the big point, It's not that he can't go where he wants to go, it's he signed a contract That's it
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