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Hurricanes and Hoosiers - National Championship Thread!

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dreyOO
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Their Ryan Swope just makes plays
TexasRebel
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TexasRebel said:

Can we just send the refs home now?


They aren't doing anything.
dtownAg14
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What's the point of the refs if they're never going to call anything on either team lol
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Ginormus Ag said:

Definitely no SEC talent in these stands.

Sorry to disagree. After two years in Bloomington, IU talent can compete with anywhere.
suburban cowboy
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dreyOO said:

Their Ryan Swope just makes plays


a lot of great championship teams have one

Georgia comes to mind
the Pats with Welker, Edelman, Amendola as well
ABATTBQ11
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Someone needs to blow the game, I mean whistles.
Emilio Fantastico
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Don't worry, they will make a game deciding call in the last 2 minutes.
Tergdor
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This has to be one of the worst football games I've ever watched from a reffing standpoint
ag0207
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The porn star
Ginormus Ag
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dtownAg14 said:

What's the point of the refs if they're never going to call anything on either team lol


They are just trying to make sure both teams have fun.
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CapCityAg89 said:

Ginormus Ag said:

Definitely no SEC talent in these stands.

Sorry to disagree. After two years in Bloomington, IU talent can compete with anywhere.
"in the stands"
Scotty Appleton
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suburban cowboy said:

dreyOO said:

Their Ryan Swope just makes plays


a lot of great championship teams have one

Georgia comes to mind
the Pats with Welker, Edelman, Amendola as well


That's racist. And on MLK day!
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These play calling is so clutch, must be nice
I wanna see our defense pissed off, not confused, maybe a little murder in their hearts Reload12, 11/4/11
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Ginormus Ag said:

Definitely no SEC talent in these stands.


We wouldn't know with the producers fetish with Mendoza parents
CapCityAg89
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Again, I totally get letting them "decide it on the field" in the NCG. BUT. This is kinda ridiculous. At least it's been horrid both ways.
TonyD33
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Point being, and i've said this for years, that the hardest route to defend is a come-back when the CB's back is turned.

Almost every CB will have his back turned at some point when you are running a vertical route in man coverage.

When the receiver stops and comes back, he will almost ALWAYS have a huge advantage on the defender.

It's time we start using this a bit more.
Logos Stick
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Yeah, it's pretty bad.
DGrimesAg92
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Logos Stick said:

DGrimesAg92 said:

KCup17 said:

DGrimesAg92 said:

KCup17 said:

DGrimesAg92 said:

KCup17 said:

Sparkie said:

Thats targeting


lol no shot


No shot of a bdf ref calling it, yes correct.


Didn't lead with crown of helmet. Didn't launch. No chance it's targeting


It's ok, you obviously don't understand the rule of defenseless players. It was the definition of a defenseless player.


Forcible contact to the head or neck area of a defenseless player. Forcible contact didn't occur at the head or neck area.


WRONG!!

"A player is defenseless when they are especially vulnerable to injury because of their position or situation. Common examples include:
A receiver in the act of catching a pass or who has not had time to protect themselves after the catch"

"What makes the hit illegal?

"A hit becomes illegal when a defender:
1. Makes forcible contact
Significant force (not just incidental contact)

AND
2. Targets a defenseless player by:
Contacting the head or neck area, OR
Leading with the crown (top) of the helmet, OR
Launching upward into the player

You do not need helmet-to-helmet contact for it to be targeting."


LAUNCHING UPWARD INTO A DEFENSELESS RECEIVER


I don't see it how you are printing it. Where did you get that text from?

This is from the rulebook.

Some indicators of targeting include but are not limited to:

"Launch: A player leaving their feet to attack an opponent by an upward and forward thrust of the body to make forcible contact in the head or neck area."


"ARTICLE 4. Targeting and Making Forcible Contact to the Head or Neck Area of a Defenseless Opponent

No player shall target and make forcible contact to the head or neck area of a defenseless opponent (See Note 2 below) with the helmet, forearm, hand, fist, elbow or shoulder."




Let's start with the definition of a defenseless player.

Defenseless Player
ARTICLE 14. A defenseless player is one who because of their physical position and focus of concentration is especially vulnerable to injury. When in question, a player is defenseless. Examples of defenseless players include but are
not limited to:
a. A player in the act of or just after throwing a pass. This includes an offensive player in a passing posture with focus downfield.
b. A receiver attempting to catch a forward pass or in position to receive a backward pass, or one who has completed a catch and has not had time to protect themselves or has not clearly become a ball carrier.
c. A kicker in the act of or just after kicking a ball, or during the kick or the return.
d. A kick returner attempting to catch or recover a kick, or one who has completed a catch or recovery and has not had time to protect themselves or has not clearly become a ball carrier
e. A player on the ground.
f. A player obviously out of the play.
g. A player who receives a blind-side block.
h. A ball carrier already in the grasp of an opponent and whose forward progress has been stopped.
i. A quarterback any time after a change of possession.
j. A ball carrier who has obviously given themselves up and is sliding feet-first.
k. A player attempting to recover a loose ball.

14:b CLEARLY the situation here.
Scotty Appleton
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Becker IS like a much faster Eric Decker. He will be a bad ass in the NFL.
CapCityAg89
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TonyD33 said:

Point being, and i've said this for years, that the hardest route to defend is a come-back when the CB's back is turned.

Almost every CB will have his back turned at some point when you are running a vertical route in man coverage.

When the receiver stops and comes back, he will almost ALWAYS have a huge advantage on the defender.

Yepper.
Ginormus Ag
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CapCityAg89 said:

Ginormus Ag said:

Definitely no SEC talent in these stands.

Sorry to disagree. After two years in Bloomington, IU talent can compete with anywhere.


They did not make it to the game.
Emilio Fantastico
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Tergdor said:

This has to be one of the worst football games I've ever watched from a reffing standpoint

Well, the A&M - Auburn game was pretty bad but on the other end of the spectrum.
dreyOO
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It's almost as if this reffing crew is used to standing idle while watching track meets…hmmm
ag0207
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Problem is you need an accurate QB to make it work…..
ABATTBQ11
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OMG this is still going on?
Emilio Fantastico
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Did they run A&M's offensive line out there?
Tergdor
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Refs had to call that one
KCup17
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Becker has great hands
Twisted Helix
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Bad mistake there.
Emilio Fantastico
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They missed the one on the Miami TD earlier.
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ABATTBQ11 said:

OMG this is still going on?


Yep....education has no time limits.
Tergdor
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They missed one on the second play of the game. I'm surprised they called this one.
ABATTBQ11
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If they don't get the first, points or go for it?
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Damn this is going to be an incredible finish!

What could have been. Miami is very good.
DGrimesAg92
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The difference in this game is a half ass effort by a freaking punter.
 
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