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The formula to winning a Natty under the new rules

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Jimbo4win
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Ugly said:

The updated NIL/transfer portal "rules" have been in place for 4-5 years now. With the exception of a Georgia team that continued on to win it for a second year in a row (and possibly including them), are the winning trends starting to emerge? Here is what is looks like you need to win the Natty based on recent history:

  • A weak OOC schedule. No national championship winner has played a P4 team out of conference since 2022 Georgia. This let's your team get settled in and builds confidence without risking significant injury.
  • A regular season with a few real challenges surrounded by gimme games. The last three champions have played three teams ranked at the end of the season apiece (most of those top 10 teams), and then mostly feasted on teams they drastically outmatch otherwise. This allows you to give your complete (i.e. multi-week) focus to these big games, and gives you experience with top-level teams without beating yourself to a bloody pulp by the end of the season. Long runs of wins against easier opponents also help build confidence (see Texas A&M during the middle of this year for more examples of this).
  • A team full of super-seniors, sprinkled with some key transfer portal additions. In this age of NIL portal, having a 22-23 year old that has been in your system for the whole time just putting their head down and grinding it out seems to be winning over a highly ranked player jumping around to a different team each year and then jetting for the NFL after year three. Obviously this is not true for every example, but the trends seem to suggest that experience is starting to beat star rankings, at least slightly.
  • This should be obvious, but injury luck at key positions is massive (which is why the first two bullets are evn more important). The last championship team to start more than one QB throughout the season was 2021 Georgia, and that was really more of a case of letting you QB competition drag into the first few weeks of the season.
  • Other important items aren't as obvious or haven't changed much, like coaching staffs that are great at developing players, recruiting teams that excel at talent evaluation, and organizations good at building a solid culture that is resistant to high player turnover year-to-year.
  • Star-rankings are not un-important, as teams with high talent ratings still tend to do better overall than teams that do not by a significant amount. However, the ultimate champion has not been well-predicted by star rankings the past few years. According to 247's composite team talent rating, the last three national champions were #72, #3, and #14. With the exception of Indiana this year, each needed to have a highly rated team, but it is not a given that a top 5 talent team will play another top 5 talent team to win it all, like it was for much of the 10's.
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This is solid! Just a few thoughts to add-1) a catching staff with elite talent evaluation skill. 2) a coaching staff that demonstrated an ability to develop guys to get them to the NFL


So in reality, the more things change the more they stay the same. Rosters have always been paid. Coaching and excepting has always been what sets teams apart over meaningful periods of time(ie the difference between winning one national championship versus having a program that wins and competes year after year)
gA_CMAB_FA
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Wanna win? Get grown-ass men like this:

Miami LB Mohamed Toure to return for 8th season of college football

He'll be tossing those skinny 19yr old 5-stars around again next year.
CharleyKerfeld
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Rule 34: Don't continually piss the bed in your rivalry game
rootube
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Be Notre Dame. Their schedule next year is a doozy.


Wisconsin
Rice
Michigan St
Purdue
North Carolina
Stanford
BYU
Navy
Miami
Boston College
SMU

With the new top 12 rule they can probably lose to both Miami and BYU, the only teams they play and cruze into the playoffs.

The CFB leadership really hosed the playoff changes for next year. Stay at 12, give all conference champs a guaranteed spot and give ND an automatic spot.


So if the current rules in place next year we're applied to last year, Duke and ND get in and Miami gets left out. Great job making a sketchy selection process worse.
gA_CMAB_FA
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rootube said:

Be Notre Dame. Their schedule next year is a doozy.


Wisconsin
Rice
Michigan St
Purdue
North Carolina
Stanford
BYU
Navy
Miami
Boston College
SMU

With the new top 12 rule they can probably lose to both Miami and BYU, the only teams they play and cruze into the playoffs.

The CFB leadership really hosed the playoff changes for next year. Stay at 12, give all conference champs a guaranteed spot and give ND an automatic spot.


So if the current rules in place next year we're applied to last year, Duke and ND get in and Miami gets left out. Great job making a sketchy selection process worse.


ND wont get in with that. 10-2 teams with multiple ranked wins will jump them even if they are 12-0.
Jarrin Jay
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Nope. That is ridiculous. We could have played NM State or Miami OH or Tulsa at home, got the W, and still would have finished 11-1 and in the CFP. No 11-1 SEC team will ever miss the CFP, period. You are totally wrong here.

Worse yet, the CFP committee, not even applying their own metrics, had us at 11-1 the LOWEST seeded 1 loss P4 team. So actually it did not matter at all in the end. Technical played UAPB, Kent State, and Oregon State all at home (the same Oregon State who lost to Sam Houston State at home) and only the W mattered.

Jarrin Jay
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Uh, no, not only would 12-0 ND be in they would be a top 4 seed. They will get in even at 11-1 with a loss to either Miami or BYU. 10-2 they are probably out.
BusterAg
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The best pattern of success is to be competitive every year and wait for either that lightning in the bottle like Mendoza or for the ball to just bounce the right way enough times during the post-season.

You don't need an easy schedule in order to win the natty. If you lose more than 2 regular season games, you are not likely one of the top 12 teams in the country, and you wouldn't win the natty even if you did get into the CFP.
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