Texas A&M Football
Sponsored by

Josh Dobson 5* CB Fong Bomb

10,101 Views | 36 Replies | Last: 1 day ago by 25Lighters
All I do is Nguyen
How long do you want to ignore this user?
No matter what!
Epstein didn't do, you know, the thing...
I'm the rare Astros/Cowboys/Spurs fan. We do exist
TAMUallen
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Things are different with NIL now but we sure as hell are doing something right. I can't imagine what our program could be like if we make a championship run
AozorAg
How long do you want to ignore this user?
It's our year…next year!
Lathspell
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
I am okay with this.
Nick_dv
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
This reminds me of how we got Horton, and shows this staff's recruiting strategy. Pick a target player (cam Coleman / john Merideth), recruit them heavily, if they start leaning another direction start recruiting a guy you've kept on the "back-burner" just in case (Horton / Dobson). I know we're still pursuing Merideth, but this is now two instances of this staff being able to quickly pivot to a "backup" plan recruiting wise, which I am a HUGE fan of. (also don't get me wrong, Horton and Dobson are awesome players in their own rights, but it is a fact that Coleman and Merideth were recruited harder at the beginning of their respective processes)
Nick_dv
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Nick_dv
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
probably 3 years from now is when we'll hit a "peak" year, these CO 26 and 27 recruits need time to develop
NoahAg
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AozorAg said:

It's our year…next year!

This time this year IS next year!
deer corn
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Just don't do any filming or documentary of him or any recruit, that becomes wasted footage for...nothing.
Maroon Flash
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
I don't believe the staff is easing up on recruiting any of the top prospects. This guy is a no brainer take and coveted recruit no matter who we already have committed. I would wager he was absolutely never on the "back burner".
carl spacklers hat
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Maroon Flash said:

I don't believe the staff is easing up on recruiting any of the top prospects. This guy is a no brainer take and coveted recruit no matter who we already have committed. I would wager he was absolutely never on the "back burner".

100%. No 5-star is a back burner recruit.
People think I'm an idiot or something, because all I do is cut lawns for a living.
StinkyPinky
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
The momentum is hard to deny. The sips can point to history all they want (and they won't admit it) but this change is legit and will be the start of something beautiful. And why? Only one word….Elko.
OldShadeOfBlue
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Nick_dv said:

This reminds me of how we got Horton, and shows this staff's recruiting strategy. Pick a target player (cam Coleman / john Merideth), recruit them heavily, if they start leaning another direction start recruiting a guy you've kept on the "back-burner" just in case (Horton / Dobson). I know we're still pursuing Merideth, but this is now two instances of this staff being able to quickly pivot to a "backup" plan recruiting wise, which I am a HUGE fan of. (also don't get me wrong, Horton and Dobson are awesome players in their own rights, but it is a fact that Coleman and Merideth were recruited harder at the beginning of their respective processes)

Aggies were trending for Dobson before Meredith started trending to Texas
Nick_dv
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Yes we've been in the lead with him for a while, but the recruitment effort was definitely stronger for Merideth (not too say it's sine dissipated)
All I do is Nguyen
How long do you want to ignore this user?
StinkyPinky said:

The momentum is hard to deny. The sips can point to history all they want (and they won't admit it) but this change is legit and will be the start of something beautiful. And why? Only one word….Elko.
Id also argue that Tommy Moffitt is a huge proponent of this success also. Being able to develop guys for the next level is a huge draw for recruits
No matter what!
Epstein didn't do, you know, the thing...
I'm the rare Astros/Cowboys/Spurs fan. We do exist
AgDad121619
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Nick_dv said:

This reminds me of how we got Horton, and shows this staff's recruiting strategy. Pick a target player (cam Coleman / john Merideth), recruit them heavily, if they start leaning another direction start recruiting a guy you've kept on the "back-burner" just in case (Horton / Dobson). I know we're still pursuing Merideth, but this is now two instances of this staff being able to quickly pivot to a "backup" plan recruiting wise, which I am a HUGE fan of. (also don't get me wrong, Horton and Dobson are awesome players in their own rights, but it is a fact that Coleman and Merideth were recruited harder at the beginning of their respective processes)
highly doubt this kid is "backup" plan. He is a top 10 player and there are 2 cbs on the field every defensive play
greg.w.h
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
With Moffitt we had a late first round pick…I wouldn't overindex his value just yet.
Nick_dv
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
He definitely isn't a backup plan level talent, but in terms of the resources that were being devoted, it seemed that Merideth was taking up more of the staff's attention
AozorAg
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Nick_dv said:

probably 3 years from now is when we'll hit a "peak" year, these CO 26 and 27 recruits need time to develop
That's an outdated thought process from 15 years ago.
Bunk Moreland
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AozorAg said:

Nick_dv said:

probably 3 years from now is when we'll hit a "peak" year, these CO 26 and 27 recruits need time to develop
That's an outdated thought process from 15 years ago.


Not necessarily. We aren't losing waves of 1st year freshmen to the portal under Elko so far. Of course it's not the Saban era of a program stacking a 3 deep of 5 stars, but recruiting is still the lifeblood. You develop talent, expect more shedding than in the past once guys hit 2 or 3 years in a program without getting the playing time they want and you fill voids with key transfers each year to supplement that.

It's a delicate balance but you still have to recruit and develop at an elite level.

The good news is after 2 or 3 years coaches probably also know what they do and don't have in a guy, and this new era allows for everyone to just move on faster vs keeping a wasted spot on a guy out of some sense of loyalty.
Nick_dv
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Of course programs can drastically improve in one offseason bc of the portal, but all of the recent national champions (besides Indiana) have won in a year roughly 2-3 years after major recruiting cycle hauls being brought in and developed
Blonde Coffee Beans
How long do you want to ignore this user?
I bet if we signed the highest rated class of all time, THEN a championship of some sort would be had
"I don't care about your feelings OP. I'm not going to let fandom replace reason, thought, and history"
Ghost91
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Blonde Coffee Beans said:

I bet if we signed the highest rated class of all time, THEN a championship of some sort would be had


Or if we moved to the premier Conference in all the land…
Or if we built a shiny new stadium…
Or if we hired a coach who's won a NC…
Or if
Or if
Or if…
TX_Aggie37
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Nick_dv said:

Of course programs can drastically improve in one offseason bc of the portal, but all of the recent national champions (besides Indiana) have won in a year roughly 2-3 years after major recruiting cycle hauls being brought in and developed

Mostly because national championship programs recruit at elite levels every single year.
lagoag
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Nick_dv said:

He definitely isn't a backup plan level talent, but in terms of the resources that were being devoted, it seemed that Merideth was taking up more of the staff's attention

That's a whole lot of assumptions in that statement. You may have seen articles written more about any recruit but that doesn't mean the coaching staff wasn't recruiting someone else just as hard. No one knows what's going on behind the scenes.
Bag
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Nick_dv said:

This reminds me of how we got Horton, and shows this staff's recruiting strategy. Pick a target player (cam Coleman / john Merideth), recruit them heavily, if they start leaning another direction start recruiting a guy you've kept on the "back-burner" just in case (Horton / Dobson). I know we're still pursuing Merideth, but this is now two instances of this staff being able to quickly pivot to a "backup" plan recruiting wise, which I am a HUGE fan of. (also don't get me wrong, Horton and Dobson are awesome players in their own rights, but it is a fact that Coleman and Merideth were recruited harder at the beginning of their respective processes)

no body was keeping horton or dobson on the back burner, hth
agchugger
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Is that not a normal strategy for every team everywhere?? What is so unique about it??
AgSnacks16
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Anyone know what it takes for Fong to lock in a prediction? He is usually right, but often the commitment announcement doesn't come for weeks or months afterwards. Curious about the process if anyone has insights.
NyAggie
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Maroon Flash said:

I don't believe the staff is easing up on recruiting any of the top prospects. This guy is a no brainer take and coveted recruit no matter who we already have committed. I would wager he was absolutely never on the "back burner".


Yep
NyAggie
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Nick_dv said:

Yes we've been in the lead with him for a while, but the recruitment effort was definitely stronger for Merideth (not too say it's sine dissipated)

Mike fo you know the effort was stronger for Meredith?

Sure, the momentum was stronger with Meredith early on but that doesn't mean we weren't recruit g Jordan just as hard
LB12MEEN
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
All I do is Nguyen said:

StinkyPinky said:

The momentum is hard to deny. The sips can point to history all they want (and they won't admit it) but this change is legit and will be the start of something beautiful. And why? Only one word….Elko.

Id also argue that Tommy Moffitt is a huge proponent of this success also. Being able to develop guys for the next level is a huge draw for recruits

Elko hired Moffit.
Gig ‘Em Baby!
beerad12man
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Maroon Flash said:

I don't believe the staff is easing up on recruiting any of the top prospects. This guy is a no brainer take and coveted recruit no matter who we already have committed. I would wager he was absolutely never on the "back burner".

Yes, but allocation still has to be there. If you pivot some funds from Merideth to secure Dobson. But if you get Merideth, you may not use that much funds on both. Especially with another 5 star CB committed.

Same with Mark Matthews and Olu Olubobola. Probably won't fund both. Both are 5 stars. Don't want to go too broke with HS and have zero for portal, either. So you still have to balance how much goes to one position.
beerad12man
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
AgDad121619 said:

Nick_dv said:

This reminds me of how we got Horton, and shows this staff's recruiting strategy. Pick a target player (cam Coleman / john Merideth), recruit them heavily, if they start leaning another direction start recruiting a guy you've kept on the "back-burner" just in case (Horton / Dobson). I know we're still pursuing Merideth, but this is now two instances of this staff being able to quickly pivot to a "backup" plan recruiting wise, which I am a HUGE fan of. (also don't get me wrong, Horton and Dobson are awesome players in their own rights, but it is a fact that Coleman and Merideth were recruited harder at the beginning of their respective processes)

highly doubt this kid is "backup" plan. He is a top 10 player and there are 2 cbs on the field every defensive play

There's more to it than that, though. It's still boils down to money.

Just like, if not for money, we'd 100% take both Coleman and Horton. We had room. When Coleman was gone, Horton got more and secured him. With coleman, Horton not only gets less, but he sees us get WR1. Same with Merideth/Dobson. if he comes, Dobson gets, less, and sees CB1. Less chance of getting him. Pivoting of funds makes sense and it's why every time we see a guy we may lead for or get trend elsewhere, it's not a coincidence we have someone about as good where those funds are allocated to secure.
dcg4403
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
AozorAg said:

It's our year…next year!


Same! Lol. .

Rinse and repeat...

Just so HAPPY to see Elko absolutely DESTROYING Sark and poor little horns in HS recruiting. Embarrassing for sip fans.
All I do is Nguyen
How long do you want to ignore this user?
It honestly takes 2-3 solid to really top tier recruiting classes to see a long term difference. The depth takes time
No matter what!
Epstein didn't do, you know, the thing...
I'm the rare Astros/Cowboys/Spurs fan. We do exist
Page 1 of 2
 
×
subscribe Verify your student status
See Subscription Benefits
Trial only available to users who have never subscribed or participated in a previous trial.