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Texas fans and Texas grads are not evil, neither individually nor collectively

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Individually I agree-one of my closest friends is a sip, and of all I have met I can only think of one I did not like.

Collectively? TEXAS JUMP UP AND BITE MY ***!

Gig 'em and BTHOtu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[This message has been edited by Rebbasser (edited 11/23/2005 11:36p).]

gonna bookmark this one

Every man on the team should read Colonel's post on Thursday night.

Incredible, definately the greatest post i have ever seen here!


Bravo and BigD, you guys just don't get it. I seriously wonder if either of you are realy Aggies.

Now lets go out there and beat the HELL OUTTA t.u.!

Spirit in Aggieland

Awsome post!

What Jessup said!!!

beat the hell outta tu

Devp23 -- I get it. Don't worry. I participated in enough things when I attended here. I continue to give back to Mays, TMF, and am a member of the Century Club. I call and talk to Dallas High School kids about attending A&M. I go to Jesuit for their college night. I have season football tickets and tailgate all morning and host friends and family. I love my Ags more than you will know.

I think you don't get it. Playing the "we are little brother and lower class" stuff simply isn't true anymore. If you feel that way, however, it ends up coming true. We are on equal footing now. This isn't the solely corps school it was back then and that is what is being described. Those are our roots and I'm proud of them, but now poor and rich go to Texas and poor and rich go to Texas A&M. My apologies if I don't compare everything I love about Texas A&M to Texas. If that's "not getting it" then I don't want to get it. I'll be content contributing and donating my time and money to A&M and feel good about it.

"'Tellus combined with velocity. That's Telocity."
--Martellus Bennett

A good read, a little dramatic for my tastes but I understand why it is so appealing to many us Ags. The ongoing debate about bonfire has made me realize something about my fellow Ags. We tend to remember things not as they were but as we wished they were. We like to play up the small cow college lore of Texas A&M, a place where hard workng country boys came to roll up their sleeves, receive an education, and go back home to provide for their family.

The truth is that Texas A&M quit being a "Cow College" long before most of us were born. Hell, my dad graduated in the 50's and he takes offense at those who say A&M was a cow college during his tenure here. The notion that the rich kids went to UT and the poor farmers went to A&M is just a small part of the myth.

What bothers me is that so many of us seem to enjoy having this inferiority complex to UT. We have become so caught up in being different from other universities that many of us have come to feel that this inferiority complex makes us "quaint" or "unique". It just makes us look pathetic. The A&M I went to is a flagship school of Texas. The A&M I went to is a leading reasearch institution known around the world. The A&M I went to produces leaders in numuerous fields, not just agriculture. The A&M I went to has moved beyond its small all male military academy days and has changed into one of the top 25 public universities in the nation.

I feel many things about UT but I'll be damned if I ever feel inferior to them.

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I thought it was great until he justified TU with being "liberal" as the reason they can't understand A&M.

Does everything have to resort to politics these days?

Gig 'em, Aggies!

Good Bull!

BigD you are missing the forest for the trees. What you describe is the distilling down of the Aggie Spirit. I do not want us to be compared generically to other universities, which is what you seem to be saying.

There IS something special at TAMU and you either get IT or you don't,

I do agree with you on one point. BTHOtu!

Yes Justin........everyting must be political these days. Be quiet and sit in the corner.

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I thought it was great until he justified TU with being "liberal" as the reason they can't understand A&M.

Does everything have to resort to politics these days?

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These days?

It's been that way for at least thirty-five years. That's all I can personally confirm but I'm pretty sure it goes back farther than that. ...a lot farther.

He's right.

MA

What you might want to think about is that "liberals" have been at A&M just as long. If you doubt this go back and check the Battalion over the years. Its always had a liberal slant. The we're conservative their liberal does not hold water.

When being a fan becomes a religion and a philosophy unto itself, you've crossed the line into idolatry. And that's a very unwise and negative destination.

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The sips during this week are, are .. They're...evil. They do evil. That makes them...That makes them evil doers. And, that's just, that's just............















bad.

Thanks Col.

Great Post

Reminded me of some things that some bad Aggies and poor performances of my football team had sapped away.

it's funny when you get paid $2M to win at it...

...never said that we don't have liberals - not with an enrollment of 40,000+.

It's not the absolutes but the proportions that create the respective characters of the schools. That the characters are different - one liberal and one conservative is undeniable - although the lines blur more and more over time.

...also knew a lot more folks who griped about Batt articles & editorials than ever agreed with them.

MA

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The best post I have ever read. The internet may be the enemy, but I hope every player gets a chance to read it before gametime. Excellent, Colonel. Beyond excellent.

Thank you all for the kind replies. I never really expected anyone to read this novel, and certainly never expected anyone to respond the way most of you have. No matter what else happens -- tomorrow, next year or beyond -- I'll always be proud to be an Aggie because of the spirit my fellow Ags give me.

I feel very strongly that individual views, whether they are in support of or opposition to my own, are needed, and I appreciate seeing them on this topic. I intended not to reply to any of the posts, but I want to make one small point, and it has to do with this sentiment:

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What bothers me is that so many of us seem to enjoy having this inferiority complex to UT. . . . It just makes us look pathetic.

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I hope no one else took my post to mean that we are, in any way, inferior to t.u. If that is the message you took from my post, I did a poor job of communicating my point.

The point of the post was to say that Aggies are, in fact, superior to the 'sips in ways they can never understand. All the stuff about them being the rich kids and us being dumb farmers was never meant to be taken as being my view on the reality, but their (in the most general and collective sense) view toward us. Texas A&M is not now, nor has it ever been, inferior to t.u. I have no inferiority complex because there is nothing in this world better than being a Texas Aggie.

Also, my use of the phrase "liberal ideas" was not intended to convey a political position. Rather, it was intended in its classical, philosophical sense and intended to carry with it the positive connotation that has, until very recently, always accompanied that phrase. Ironically enough, everything is not political.

PKPAggie1 do I know you? Oh, lol. Yeah, I do! How are you doing bud?

Well said.

Absolutely wonderful read. GigEm!

BTHOtu!!!!!!!!!

Thanks..