******BTHO North Carolina******

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Never a fan of passing along the backline especially deep in your half. I don't get why G allows then to do that. It is the most boneheaded way of losing possession.
NATTY OR BUST. BUST IT IS.

GIVE ME NATTY, OR GIVE ME BAS!!!
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To me it's the difference of really good teams and experienced players when they finish their opportunities. We had two great chances and didn't finish either one
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Really getting outplayed right now. Do they have the wind this half?
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Looked like the wind was more across the field than down the field
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Is this announcer i calling a golf tournament?

Where is dottie pepper with some on field reporting
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UNC seems to have a much better first touch than we do. That control is giving them way more chances.
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Why would you goto NC when you get subbed out every 10 minutes in groups of 6

This aint 1986 where there is only 1 good program

Tailgate88
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For those of us who can't watch live, please post scoring updates etc. instead of just commentary. :-) Thanks!
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1-0
5 mins left
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2 1/2 mins left

We can't even get the ball in our half
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Yeah especially when you are behind and the clock is not your friend.
LB12Diamond
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UNC has not given up even one goal in 2021
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Bad passing and bad touches made the difference here.
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One of the days we might not be put into a NCAA bracket without NC. We seem to always be in their bracket.
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The difference was defense and experience. We put some honest shots on frame. And put up a helluva fight though at the end everything got sloppy. Looked like we accepted the outcome before we got to the end of the game.

Weird year and season. But glad they went to the E8 again. Looks like with another year of seasoning that kind of game will be even more fun to watch like the TCU game was.
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MookieBlaylock said:

Why would you goto NC when you get subbed out every 10 minutes in groups of 6

This aint 1986 where there is only 1 good program


Incorrect
A player can only be subbed once per half
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ColoradoMooseHerd said:

MookieBlaylock said:

Why would you goto NC when you get subbed out every 10 minutes in groups of 6

This aint 1986 where there is only 1 good program


Incorrect
A player can only be subbed once per half
Fairly certain that in college you can sub once only in the first half but unlimited in the second.
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Good experience for a young team. I was hoping for a college cup appearance, but honestly this group exceeded expectations. It was a fun run in a weird season. I look forward to building on this and thankfully, we don't have to wait very long to see the 2021 team on the field.
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I think UNC had six players go pro after the fall season. It could have been far worse.
NATTY OR BUST. BUST IT IS.

GIVE ME NATTY, OR GIVE ME BAS!!!
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NC is a deep team playing at home. As others have said, we really exceeded our expectations.

I believe that we have a good freshman class coming in. We really need to build on this experience.

This is the game that we really missed Lopez in particular. Her strength would have helped us a lot at mid-field.

Overall, no disgrace loosing to NC, especially at home.
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I think UNC had six players go pro after the fall season. It could have been far worse.

They had two. Just like A&M. (As indicated in my earlier post)
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Heck of a season, Ags.
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Very competitive first half. The team played well for the most part and showed that they could compete with the Tar Heels. A bad pass, a regular theme in the second half, brought that momentum to a halt in the first half.

The second half was disappointing across the board.
Poor passing, possession and poise was indicative of our second half. We simply did not play well for the entirety of the half. Our central midfielders really struggled in the half, particularly our freshman #9 player. Unfortunately, the second half was tough on virtually all of our freshmen.

The great news is that the team is so young and performed very well for much of their "season". The freshmen showed great promise and should have a very successful remaining three years. I am looking forward to watching the team hit new highs going forward.
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First off, we have to recognize that A&M even reaching the Elite 8 this year with a young roster and without two key seniors from the Fall is a nice accomplishment. I don't think anyone thought this was possible after that loss to Rice a month ago. I know a lot of folks will point to Sample's big mistake as the reason we lost, but I would argue Olivieri's point blank easy 1v1 miss midway through first half was really the back breaker for the momentum and mental edge in the match. A&M would have led 1-0 and it would have forced UNC to press a bit more and made them uncomfortable, which is how you beat them. Barbara has missed several of these now this season and it's something that she must work on in the offseason if she wants to take her game to the next level and help A&M back to a College Cup.

I'm going to start with the back line because that is where I think the biggest mistake this Spring was made trying to force our current roster to continue to play a 3 back set when we didn't have the level of quality needed to have that few in the back. That's a lot of pressure on Sample and Smith, and the damn finally broke in the last few matches. Colvin was out of position and Dumond was not ready for this level of play yet (although to be fair she had a few good tackles in the first half). I would have gone with 4 in the back, maybe moving a more athletic midfielder there if we didn't have the quality depth needed currently at the position. This is where the loss of Lopez really hurt us because with her at left back we don't have these issues. The back pass mistake by Sample when Pounds wasn't expecting it in the middle of the field led to UNC's winning goal, however, the defense did get back to stop the initial counter until a quick pass to Norwood in the box led to a quick turn and shot low to the corner that Caldwell couldn't quite reach. You just can't give up a goal with less than 2 minutes left in a half and you could tell it deflated the team going into halftime. To be fair, it probably should have been a deserved 2-1 lead for UNC at the half when you count up all the real chances on goal. However, there were also some good stops and tackles by Sample and Smith, especially in the first half, and they held UNC to only 7 shots, so I can't say they played poorly. We were just outmanned and playing only three in the back didn't help. The good news is that we have some more options in the Fall with the newcomers available to play.

I believe this lack of confidence in the back led to much of the passing backwards and silly square balls that were easily picked off, including the game winner for UNC today. When you feel pressured and you are unsure of the best decision, you will naturally have a retreat/defensive mentality, which leads to weak passes backward and then being out of position to get back and defend your initial mistake. It just amazes me that we continued to do this today after the avalanche of mistakes against OSU just days ago. When we actually just kicked the long ball down the sideline and then chased, we had better success and even set up some offensive momentum as UNC was having to defend and we could pressure them in their own defensive third. Now normally I'm not a fan of this, but for this current team and roster it was the better option, especially against elite teams like UNC that will make you pay for those mistakes.

The forwards really struggled today. After having 38 shots against OSU, we only mustered a season low 4 today in 90 minutes. Even against a stellar UNC defense, that is just not going to get it done. Our only real offense all day was Olivieri's missed 1v1 and another wide-angled shot across the goal mouth that just missed the post. The box score says we played a 3-4-3, but at times it looked we were playing a 3-4-2-1 formation to maximize players around the ball in the midfield. That didn't give us a lot of chances to create shots before UNC took it away from us. There were times when we were trying to be too perfect in setting up shots when it would have been better to take a few more from just outside the box. Carroll had a rough game for the most part and wasn't very effective today. On a few of her breakaways in space, she decided to dribble into the middle of the field and lost the ball instead of going wide where she is more dangerous with crosses and with attacking the goal from an angle. Jai Smith came in and played well again and she had the best cross and set up of a scoring chance in the second half. On that opportunity, Geczik lost her balance on the shot which led to a weak dribbler to the GK. Instead she could have slotted a pass to her right to Carroll who was all alone for an easy tap in. I was disappointed Jai was taken out when she was playing with energy and making good decisions to go wide and play to her strengths. Russell didn't seem as active as she was against OSU.

At midfield, Olivieri has to convert that 1v1. It was a beautiful build-up with over 10 passes and then a perfectly weighted pass from Bates to Barbara, who calmly collected it and had a chance to slot it on the ground past the UNC keeper, but instead opted for an upper 90 shot in the only place where it could have been defended with a hand, which is exactly what happened. That really changed the match IMO. We seemed a bit deflated after that and never really recovered fully. Olivieri had another opportunity on a breakaway from a long ball out of the back that a UNC defender misplayed, but it was from an angle that was too tight to score from, although it was close. I thought the midfield of Bates, Pounds, Kolb, and Ziemer did a good job of pressuring UNC in the first half and made their life miserable with tip-aways and breaking their momentum. We had some good, precise touches and at times had the Tar Heels confused and backing up. They also intercepted several passes which led to chances in the offensive third. However, in the second half with the strong wind against them, they just couldn't maintain any real possession or apply enough effective pressure to make many forays into UNC territory. We were basically defending the entire half, which doesn't happen to A&M very often. Pounds in particular had a really poor half, while Kolb wasn't much of a factor either. The last 5 minutes of the match were especially frustrating as we showed some low soccer IQ by trying to play small ball in getting the ball out of corners instead of just kicking long balls and chasing by playing a high line and moving the playing area up the field.

Really the first half was pretty even with UNC having a bit more possession and chances on goal. They missed two point blank chances that should have been put away so we were lucky to still be in the game after the first 25 minutes. UNC dominated the second half with possession and frustrated A&M with the help of a strong wind, which was a major factor today. It helped us in the first half to stay even with them, then we couldn't maintain possession and go forward much against the wind in the second half. The Tar Heels kicked a lot of long balls into corners and pinned us deep, which made getting into any rhythm in the second half difficult. UNC showed their quality with their first touches throughout the match, rarely letting a ball get more than 2 feet in front of them. That's something A&M needs to improve to compete at this level. A&M also made some poor passes to the strikers when going forward in the second half instead of being more patient and going wide for crosses. A&M only had a few chances around the box in the final 30 minutes and we didn't take advantage of any of them.

Do you want to know how talented that UNC squad was today? They were so deep with talent that they continued using 6-man line changes throughout the match without missing a beat. It's also one of the reasons A&M was worn down and had tired legs late in the match. They haven't allowed a goal this Spring, which is remarkable. Pinto, Meza, Jones, and company are elite talents and they have an equally talented midfield to support the attack. And this was even after losing two of their stars to the draft (Pinto decided to play this Spring despite being drafted third overall). It's tough to see so many Texas kids on their roster. And that's really the only real difference between these programs. It starts and ends with recruiting about 80% of the time. UNC probably won this match about 2 years ago on signing day. A&M is now 1-6 in Elite 8 games with 3 of those losses to UNC. Our only victory was as a #1 seed playing at home in 2014 so it shows how important having an elite level of talent is to consistently win at this point in the tourney. Now, A&M does have talent with at least 3 five-stars on the field today and multiple 4-stars as well. The problem is that UNC has mostly 5-stars across the entire starting lineup, while Stanford and UCLA have even more talent than that if you can believe it. Remember Coach G's quote a few weeks ago about the fact that A&M couldn't even get a "sniff" from any of Stanford's current roster during recent recruiting cycles. And that's probably also true of UCLA, UNC, and Duke rosters as well (FSU recruits internationally). How big would it have been today to have Texas kids like Ordonez (a one-time A&M commit) from Virginia or Meza or Allen from UNC about now? That's why it's so important for Bjork and company to step up and give this A&M program the top-notch facility it deserves in order to better compete for the truly elite prospects, especially in our own state. Outside of a lucky break in the tourney when all the top seeds are upset, elevating recruiting to the next level is the only path to a national championship.

Finally, kudos to the A&M fans who were there today as they were vocal and louder (at least on the live stream) than the UNC fans who were basically playing a home game. Next year should be good season and it's obvious the coaching staff believes we will be very good considering the toughest slate of non-conference opponents in many years (at FSU, at Clemson, OSU, TCU). We need to adjust to and get used to playing this level of opponent earlier in the season so games like today aren't such a shock to the system. It also gives us an idea of how far we have to go to compete and win these games and also to begin making adjustments during the SEC season to prepare for the tourney. It was a strange year but overall a good one considering expectations, and next season is only 3 months away.
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I don't understand the Stanford comment. Their soccer stadium isn't very nice at all. So why can't we get sniff from these recruits that choose Stanford? I can understand the academic advantages, but I guess I don't see who they have superior facilities
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BQ_90 said:

I don't understand the Stanford comment. Their soccer stadium isn't very nice at all. So why can't we get sniff from these recruits that choose Stanford? I can understand the academic advantages, but I guess I don't see who they have superior facilities
The only way A&M can compete with the Stanfords of the world is through something other than academics, which means giving prospects the opportunity to play in the nicest stadium and facilities in the nation with the best fans as well might be enough to at least get their attention. We don't have to land all of them, but even adding 1-2 more elite prospects per class will make all the difference in the Elite 8.
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screw the Texas kids that wont play here unless they have "the nicest facilities in the nation".
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"For most people and most neutrals and people around the country will look at A&M this year and say we overachieved," Guerrieri said. "This team still came back [after so many players leaving] and marched through a huge national tournament to get to the national elite eight."
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Thanks, HIdden. I didn't get to see the first half, so I didn't have a chance to see the part of the game where we were competitive.

I think the academics for athletes at Stanford are overrated. Note I say for athletes. There is no question that Stanford is one of the premier educational institutions and research universities in the US. However, I lived on the west coast for ten years, and as an HP employee interacted with a number of Stanford graduates. They all said they have "athlete" classes like virtually every other university.

For those disparaging Stanford and NC, the draw to those schools for soccer, is just like the draw to Alabama right now for football players. Why would any Texas high school athlete go to the Tide instead of playing at a Texas college? I suspect you all know that answer: it's not for the academics!

With football on the rise, the economy coming out of the Covid malaise, and likely the donors in a generous mood, this is the time to upgrade the soccer facilities and make us one of those national powers.
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I'm not disparaging Stanford or UNC. I see that Stanford has been really good winning 3 titles, 2 in the last 5 years. But they're facilities aren't that good and they aren't better than ours. I guess I don't see how having a even nicer park or facilities flip kids to us over them.

UNC is on another planet as far as titles go. They've won 20+ titles, that's more than rest country combined. So I can see why they are stacked every year.

Again I'm not complaining or knocking our program. It was just a question. I don't have any clue how soccer recruiting works.
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Sorry BQ-90

I didn't mean it as a disparagement. I've wondered about Sanford sports many times. How can a private school afford to sponsor something like 33 NCAA sports? Apparently, they have some sort of athletic trust fund that allows them to offer scholarships in virtually every NCAA sport, although I believe that last season even they had to reduce several ones.

The only answer I have is the appeal of the Silicon Valley area and the history of Stanford's success. I guess that will lure a Texas athlete away from the state occasionally.

As you said, UNC is a different story. They have won a ton, and playing for them will likely guarantee you a spot in the final four virtually every year.

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Again, the issue isn't that other top programs have far superior facilities to us because some of them (Stanford) do not. The issue is we have to find another way to attract the top prospects (and I'm referring to the Top 20 kids nationally every cycle) other than academics because private schools can use additional means of scholarships other than the NCAA mandated ones. A&M is a good school academically, but we are not in the same league as Stanford, Duke, UCLA, or even UNC is some departments for that matter. So we have to play to our strengths, which I believe is money and fan support. Money in that some big donors with extra cash lying around could help build a $30 million facility that is the best in the country by a wide margin to go along with even more fan interest to attend games in it. It could be special and might be a major reason why some elite Texas kids would rather stay home and play in front of that type of environment instead of going to Stanford just for the degree. The A&M network should also help even the playing field a bit as a hedge against the academic angle that those schools use against us. What would help though is to make a national title game and be on the cusp of a title to prove that kids can win a championship here without having to go to the coasts to get one.
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I would consider Stanford's soccer stadium much better than ours. Much larger capacity. Different configuration but large crowds
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ColoradoMooseHerd said:

I would consider Stanford's soccer stadium much better than ours. Much larger capacity. Different configuration but large crowds
Not true. Stanford's soccer stadium is tiny with a few bleachers on one side of the field. A&M's is much bigger and nicer today.
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Diego said:

ColoradoMooseHerd said:

I would consider Stanford's soccer stadium much better than ours. Much larger capacity. Different configuration but large crowds
Not true. Stanford's soccer stadium is tiny with a few bleachers on one side of the field. A&M's is much bigger and nicer today.

100% agree. Unsure why Stanford's is better.

https://gostanford.com/facilities/maloney-field-at-laird-q-cagan-stadium/9



Capacity: 2,000.


https://12thman.com/facilities/ellis-field/9



Capacity: 3,500.

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